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    Not much has changed for us.
    Otherwise, Biyombo goes a little up. Vucevic projected in the lottery.

    With the June 13 date to withdraw from the NBA draft and the adidas Eurocamp behind us, we are now just a week from when the selections will be made.

    The draft remains fluid at this point. Teams are still engaged in the workout process and are beginning to narrow down their lists, but the final draft order is still far from certain.

    "Good luck with your mock draft," one GM said to me as he was departing Treviso, Italy. "I'll be interested in seeing who we are taking since I still don't know."

    Here's our most informed take, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, about how the draft might play out June 23.



    1. Cleveland
    (via L.A. Clippers)


    Kyrie Irving
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 191 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Duke

    Analysis: There have been a lot of interesting theories floating around the past week about why Cleveland won't be taking Irving No. 1. I still don't buy it. The Cavs have been shopping Baron Davis and Ramon Sessions hard in the past week.

    Williams is still in the picture here at No. 1 in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4 ... but sources continue to stress that it's Irving's to lose.


    2. Minnesota


    Derrick Williams
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 249
    Age: 20
    School: Arizona

    Analysis: Still hearing that the Wolves are hoping they can get a great offer for the No. 2 pick. But if they don't they'll just take Williams and work out the rest this summer via trades. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time next season starts.


    3. Utah
    (via New Jersey)


    Brandon Knight
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 177
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky

    Analysis: Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker are both possibilities at guard. Enes Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas and Jan Vesely will also get a look here. The Jazz have a huge workout on June 15 when Walker and Jimmer Fredette are expected to work out for them.

    Knight will come in at some point too, though he still seems to be refusing to work out with Walker or Fredette. While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either a player like Kanter, Valanciunas or Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on the 15th ... that could push the Jazz to go big here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.


    4. Cleveland


    Jonas Valanciunas
    Position: C
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 230
    Age: 19
    Country: Lithuania

    Analysis: I've had Kanter in this position since Mock Draft 1.0, but it's time to make the biggest change I've made to our board. From what I gather, the Cavs appear to be cooling a bit on Kanter and warming to Valanciunas.

    Vesely and Leonard are in the picture too and would both be good fits. But this may be the Cavs' only chance to draft a legit 7-foot center. Valanciunas is raw, but he has big upside.




    5. Toronto


    Jan Vesely
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 240
    Age: 21
    Country: Czech Republic

    Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of directions here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight is on the board, I think he doesn't get past here. If just Walker is here, the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

    The Raptors could go with an international player such as Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the four, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board.




    6. Washington


    Enes Kanter
    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 260
    Age: 19
    Country: Turkey

    Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the questions are: Who's the best player on the board and what do they need? The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

    Kawhi Leonard is an option. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes. But the Wizards are really looking for rebounding help up front and Kanter is a very good fit here. He's tough, he isn't afraid to be physical and he has good size. Tristan Thompson is a dark horse here as well.




    7. Sacramento


    Kawhi Leonard
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 228
    Age: 19
    School: San Diego State

    Analysis: If the draft plays out this way, the Kings could go in three different directions. They could go with Leonard, who would help solve a major need at small forward or they could choose between Walker and Fredette at the point. We've had Walker in this position for weeks, but mostly because we've had Leonard off the board.

    Fredette, as we've been writing for the past two weeks, is the dark horse here. The Maloof brothers love him and he's probably a better fit in the Kings' backcourt than Walker. If Leonard is off the board, Fredette could be the pick.




    8. Detroit


    Kemba Walker
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 184
    Age: 21
    School: UConn

    Analysis: For the past few weeks, we've had the Pistons taking Valanciunas, but with Valanciunas now going No. 4, it looks like the Pistons will be down to three prospects: Kemba Walker, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo.

    Walker is the safe pick, though he doesn't actually fill a major need. Thompson has upside. And, from what I gather, the team is still very high on Biyombo. The Pistons know how to develop a defensive stopper like him and I'm told their trip to Spain to see him went well.

    Still, at the end of the day, I think the Pistons draft the best player available, Walker, and look at moving Rodney Stuckey to the 2.



    9. Charlotte


    Marcus Morris
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 230
    Age: 21
    School: Kansas

    Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks. To go with a proven product. To aim at the double instead of the home run.

    Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix as well.




    10. Milwaukee


    Klay Thompson
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 206
    Age: 21
    School: Washington St.

    Analysis: I think this pick likely comes down to Thompson and Alec Burks. They play the same position, but have different strengths. Thompson is a shooter, Burks is a slasher.

    With the Bucks telling me pretty strongly that they're holding on to Brandon Jennings as their point guard, and with the team making a strong drive to get back in the playoffs, I think Thompson is a better fit.




    11. Golden State


    Bismack Biyombo
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 243
    Age: 18
    Country: Congo

    Analysis: Jerry West is a fan of Klay Thompson and would likely select him if he's still on the board. But if he and Marcus Morris are off the board, the Warriors could be the team that takes a chance on Biyombo. The team desperately needs to improve its defense, shot-blocking and rebounding. Biyombo has the tools to do that right away.





    12. Utah


    Chris Singleton
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 230
    Age: 21
    School: Florida State

    Analysis: We've had Singleton here for weeks and we're not moving him unless the Jazz draft a forward with the No. 3 pick. With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency, the Jazz are going to want a defensive stopper who can guard multiple positions.

    Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here too.




    13. Phoenix


    Alec Burks
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 193
    Age: 19
    School: Colorado

    Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Tristan Thompson could be a solid direction to go.

    But if Burks is on the board, he may be very hard to pass up on. He has star potential if he ever learns how to shoot. With Vince Carter likely out of the picture in Phoenix, Burks also fits a need.





    14. Houston


    Nikola Vucevic
    Position: C
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 260
    Age: 20
    School: USC

    Analysis: Could Vucevic really go this high? That's the word among a number of NBA GMs who are raving about his workouts. Some have argued that the differences between him and Enes Kanter are very slim.

    With the Rockets in desperate need of some size in the paint, Vucevic could be the answer. He's not the world's greatest athlete, but he is skilled, has an NBA body and is ready to play now.





    15. Indiana


    Jimmer Fredette
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 196
    Age: 22
    School: Brigham Young

    Analysis: The Pacers could go a number of different ways here, but for the third straight week I think Fredette will be their man. There's a good chance that Jimmer is off the board when they draft, but if he's here, he'll be very hard to pass up.

    Tristan Thompson and Markieff Morris are all also serious options here as well if both are still on the board.






    16. Philadelphia


    Tristan Thompson
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 228
    Age: 20
    School: Texas

    Analysis: Thompson could go as high as No. 5 or No. 6. But he also could slide. Just about every team I spoke to likes him a lot, but I've yet to find the team that's fallen in love. I doubt he slips further than this though. The Sixers need more size, toughness and rebounding. Thompson provides all three. Jordan Hamilton and Markieff Morris are also options here.





    17. New York


    Marshon Brooks
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 195
    Age: 22
    School: Providence

    Analysis: The Knicks are really hoping that either Klay Thompson or Jimmer Fredette fall to them. But if they don't, watch out for Brooks. He had a great workout in New York, has the sort of swagger that Knicks guards need and the Knicks were wowed by his ability to pass the ball too.

    Brooks, at 22, doesn't have the upside of a guy like Josh Selby, but his size advantage is big and so is his ability to step in and play right away.





    18. Washington
    (via Atlanta)


    Jordan Hamilton
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 229
    Age: 20
    School: Texas

    Analysis: Hamilton is often compared to Wizards small forward Rashard Lewis. Both are big men with sweet strokes that can catch fire. But with Lewis on the back end of his career and the Wizards actively shopping him, I don't think the team will shy away from adding another scorer to put around John Wall.





    19. Charlotte
    (via New Orleans)


    Markieff Morris
    Position: PF/C
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 241
    Age: 21
    School: Kansas

    Analysis: The Bobcats have needs just about everywhere and Morris should be a good fit. He's strong, he's defensive minded, he rebounds and he blocks shots. He's a bit undersized to play the 5, but his ability to stretch the floor will be welcomed.





    20. Minnesota
    (via Memphis)


    Donatas Motiejunas
    Position: PF
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 220
    Age: 19
    Country: Lithuania

    Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post.

    Marshon Brooks, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities.





    21. Portland


    Kenneth Faried
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 225
    Age: 21
    School: Morehead State

    Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him. His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style.

    Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson are other players to watch.





    22. Denver


    Tobias Harris
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 223
    Age: 18
    School: Tennessee

    Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft.

    Charles Jenkins, Iman Shumpert and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.





    23. Houston
    (via Orlando)


    Darius Morris
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 190
    Age: 20
    School: Michigan

    Analysis: We have the Rockets going big with pick No. 14 and we have them going big again at No. 23. Morris is a different kind of big. He's a point guard who towers over the competition. If he were a better shooter he'd be going much, much higher in the draft. But at this point he's a steal.





    24. Oklahoma City


    Nikola Mirotic
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 226
    Age: 21
    Country: Serbia

    Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient -- two critical traits in a great GM. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. Mirotic shocked NBA teams by deciding to stay in the draft.

    It will likely take him three years to actually make it to the NBA, but given the talent level, the Thunder could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Davis Bertans and Bogan Bogdanovic are possibilities.




    25. Boston


    Jeremy Tyler
    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 263
    Age: 19
    Team: Tokyo Apache

    Analysis: The Celtics are going to start rebuilding soon and they need to hit a home run again the same way they did with Rajon Rondo. Tyler could be that guy. If he had played in college, he might have had a chance to be a top-10 pick with his talent.

    He's long, athletic and raw, but if he succeeds, he could be a major pickup for the Celtics. JaJuan Johnson, Justin Harper and Jon Leuer are also possibilities.





    26. Dallas


    Josh Selby
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 195
    Age: 20
    School: Kansas

    Analysis: The Mavs have won the title, but now it's time to begin thinking about the future. While the Mavs may have one more long run in those veteran legs, it's unlikely. Selby, like Tyler, could be a home run if he's developed right. His ability to get to the basket is really unmatched.





    27. New Jersey
    (via L.A. Lakers)


    Reggie Jackson
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 208
    Age: 21
    School: Boston College

    Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

    Had he not had a knee injury when the predraft process began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here too.





    28. Chicago
    (via Miami)


    Justin Harper
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 228
    Age: 21
    School: Richmond

    Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need perimeter shooting and Harper should be able to give them some.

    Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are also possibilities.





    29. San Antonio


    Davis Bertans
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 210
    Age: 18
    Country: Latvia

    Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready.

    Bertans showed he can be a big-time shooter at the Nike Hoop Summit and adidas Eurocamp. At 18, he's worth taking a flier on and seeing what he can accomplish after another year or two in Europe.





    30. Chicago


    Tyler Honeycutt
    Position: G/F
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 188
    Age: 20
    School: UCLA

    Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Honeycutt wasn't a dominating scorer in college, but his versatility should make him a nice fit in Chicago.

    Next Five In: JaJuan Johnson, F, Purdue; Charles Jenkins, G, Hofstra; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Chandler Parsons, F, Florida
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    But this may be the Cavs' only chance to draft a legit 7-foot center.
    ... for a guy he listed at 6-10.

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    I dont see Jimmer falling that low
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    Kemba...bleh.

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    ... for a guy he listed at 6-10.
    Afaik, he's 6-10 without shoes and he's still growing.
    He may very well end up 7-1 with shoes when he's fully grown. Not to mention long arms.

    Edit - according to Valanciunas himself on draftexpress, he's almost 6-11 without shoes.

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    Afaik, he's 6-10 without shoes and he's still growing.
    He may very well end up 7-1 with shoes when he's fully grown. Not to mention long arms.
    If only it said that.

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    ... for a guy he listed at 6-10.
    They've listeed Klay Thompson as a PG for two straight weeks. Not sure if he has an editor, or one that pays much attention to detail anyway.

    (Even when discussing Klay, he say's that he plays the same position as Alec Burks who they have listed as a SG)

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    i really like markeif morris..... would love to have him

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    I feel like Klay Thompson isn't going as high as 10. Interesting that Ford thinks there's not much chance he makes it past the Warriors. Cool with me.

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    I like Fredette in this draft. I'd be very happy with him at 15. I doubt he'll fall that far though.

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    This draft is a huge win for us if we actually have the ability to choose between Fredette and Brooks. I have a gut feeling neither will be available.

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    Kemba...bleh.
    I can't see the Pistons taking Kemba even if he is available at 8. Not with Stuckey, and Gordon around already, the Pistons are most likely going big even if they have to reach a little to do so.

    Jimmer would be cool at 15 but he doesn't make it to 15, someone will draft before or there will be a trade for a team to move up and take him, there's just too many teams interested. I honestly see the Kings taking him at 7, Pistons going big at 8, and the Bobcats getting Kemba at 9.
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    I doubt Jimmer gets past Utah at 12 or even Phoenix at 13

    I really hope he is good so the pressure to pick wont be there

    kind of like last year when Utah picked Gordon
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    I hope Jimmer doesn't make it to 15.

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    I don't see Utah drafting Singleton. They need a shooting guard and possible point help.

    I don't like Ford's mock for us.
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    Does anybody think we'll see any certain players fall particularly far down and then into the middle of the 2nd round--just like last year with Lance Stephenson or you could even say that about Daniel Orton since he was supposed to go lottery and then went 30th?? Reggie Jackson keeps falling and if he keeps falling even more, maybe we could wind up with him in the 2nd round. I'm highly doubtful, but it would be nice for us!

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    If Freddette is there at 15, take him and don't look back, but i want trade down for Faried.

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    ive read on multiple websites that we are talking to the knicks about swapping picks. I cant start a new thread atm bc my connection is rly laggy right now.

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    I hope that is true
    http://www.jaywashere.com/2011-nba-m...st-round-swap/

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    What could we expect from that?

    Bird is definitely confident one of his guys will fall to him.

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    I don't see any reason to swap picks. If your guy is there, take him . What's the point?
    I just hope that we are swapping picks as part of a larger deal. Kings may move #7 also.

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    I don't see Utah drafting Singleton. They need a shooting guard and possible point help.

    I don't like Ford's mock for us.
    They need a replacement for AK47 thats why they would draft Singleton.

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    ive read on multiple websites that we are talking to the knicks about swapping picks. I cant start a new thread atm bc my connection is rly laggy right now.
    For what? if we're moving down behind 2 other Eastern teams we better be getting something worth wild, & I don't think NY has anything left to give.
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    I dont know if there is anyone outside of Stat , I would take off the Knicks hands
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    The only thing I see swapping picks would be good for is to get cash considerations and use those to help buy another pick.

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