Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 42

Thread: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

  1. #1
    STRAIGHT UP pizza guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Indiana
    Age
    26
    Posts
    4,011
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    I just checked the free agents for the Finals participants and was a little surprised by how many there are. There are always plenty of guys who win a ring with one team and then get overpaid/overvalued and wind up on a different team the next year. And, since Miami didn't win, they'll probably have anyone and everyone outside of the Big 3 for sale.

    My question, then, is whether or not the Pacers (who have the money to spend) go out and get any of these guys. And, if they do, will any of them actually improve the team enough to maybe get past the first round?

    Dallas
    UNRESTRICTED
    Jose Juan Barea
    Caron Butler
    Brian Cardinal
    Tyson Chandler
    DeShawn Stevenson
    Peja Stojakovic

    Miami
    RESTRICTED
    Mario Chalmers

    UNRESTRICTED
    Mike Bibby
    Erick Dampier
    Eddie House (P)
    Juwan Howard
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas (P)
    James Jones (P)
    Jamaal Magloire

    If any of these guys are off the market for whatever reason, I pulled the info from HERE, the ESPN list of Free Agents that has been updated June 3.

    Personally, I'd take a flyer on JJ Barea, Tyson Chandler, Mario Chalmers, and maybe Juwan Howard.

    Thoughts?
    BLUE COLLAR GOLD SWAGGER

    @The_Real_CJake

  2. #2
    Over the pond ballism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Baltics (Europe)
    Posts
    2,427

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Step 1. Sign Chandler, Butler and JJ Barea.
    Step 2. Trade Granger, Hibbert, Hansbrough, Posey and picks till 2020 for Dirk, Terry and Carlisle.
    Step 3. ????
    Step 4. Profit.

  3. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to ballism For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    In a Gym
    Age
    22
    Posts
    16,880
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Brian Cardinal Max Contract please!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to pacer4ever For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Over the pond ballism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Baltics (Europe)
    Posts
    2,427

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Ohh yeah, how could I forget the Cardinal!...

  7. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    In a Gym
    Age
    22
    Posts
    16,880
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by ballism View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Step 1. Sign Chandler, Butler and JJ Barea.
    Step 2. Trade Granger, Hibbert, Hansbrough, Posey and picks till 2020 for Dirk, Terry and Carlisle.
    Step 3. ????
    Step 4. Profit.
    Can we add Mark Cuban in somehow?

  8. #6
    #SeePGFly KingGeorge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bloomington
    Age
    23
    Posts
    911

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    There is no way that Dallas lets Tyson Chandler walk away. I wouldn't mind having JJ Barea as a backup PG, but he will probably be overpriced after his success in the playoffs. The only other player I would be interested in is Caron Butler, but he will be overpriced as well and has too many injury concerns.

  9. #7

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Without Barea, I don't think the Mavs would have won that easily tonight. He was lights out. He has been all year. I think there is no way Cuban will let him walk after the show he put on tonight.

    He would be intriguing, but with him out of the picture, I think the only ones that even jump out at all are Butler and Chandler. They just seem like good players that will want to be overpaid like most big men. Maybe Cardinal.

    The rest of that heap, you can keep.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Midcoasted For This Useful Post:


  11. #8
    #Franking Heisenberg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    13,608

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    I'd be first in line to buy a Brian Cardinal Pacers jersey.

    But please do not consider signing him Larry.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Heisenberg For This Useful Post:

    Dab

  13. #9
    Psycho T!!!!! Shabazz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    238

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    You have to think Cuban will spend whatever it takes to keep the team together for another run next year. Get Butler and Haywood back to 100%, and you have a really tough team for next season. I would also guess that they will attempt to groom Barea to eventually replace Kidd in the next 2-3 years.

    Are most of those Miami free agents guys who chose to sign for the veteran's minimum because they thought they would get a ring out of it?
    <---- Hansbrough smiling in the training room after Gerald Henderson's cheap shot. UNC won the game, Tyler was happy so he took this picture. Roy Williams keeps it on his desk.

  14. #10
    Member owl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    4,460

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    New CBA will determine a lot. I think the league is trouble because the owners are divided against themselves much less able to negotiate with the players.
    {o,o}
    |)__)
    -"-"-

  15. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to owl For This Useful Post:


  16. #11

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by owl View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    New CBA will determine a lot. I think the league is trouble because the owners are divided against themselves much less able to negotiate with the players.


    Very valid point. You have big market teams vs small market teams. Teams, like the Pacers who are in good cap shape, aren't going to want to let the big spenders get a free pass for their over spending. Why have to play by the rules only to have the rules changed to help the rich?

    If Sterns allows this to happen, he needs to be FIRED immediately if not sooner. How many of the 30 teams does it take to fire/replace the NBA commish?

  17. #12
    Administrator Unclebuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    32,985

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Chandler would be great to have. he's a gamble though because of injury history and my guess is he'll really want to stay with the mavs and the mavs will pay him a lot to keep him, so any other team would probably have to offer him a huge and long contract.

    So I don't see him as a realistic possiblity
    Last edited by Unclebuck; 06-13-2011 at 09:02 AM.

  18. #13
    Member Speed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Brownsburg
    Posts
    8,619

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Hard cap is the only way Cuban doesn't/can't keep almost every guy on this years team. Really no one I want on Miamis.

  19. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Speed For This Useful Post:


  20. #14

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    i want chandler..... or have barea to back up DC

  21. #15
    Member pacergod2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Richmond, VA
    Posts
    2,886
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    When Cuban was talking last night, he mentioned a couple of the players by name and he named four of the five starters, with the only one who he left out being Tyson Chandler. I don't think Chandler is petty, but something small like that can go a long way to taking a contract elsewhere, especially if you've already won a ring and there is more money on a different table.

  22. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Tyson doesn't seem as a possibility to me, but out of the rest of the free agents I would try to sign Barea and Butler.

  23. #17

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by pacergod2 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    When Cuban was talking last night, he mentioned a couple of the players by name and he named four of the five starters, with the only one who he left out being Tyson Chandler. I don't think Chandler is petty, but something small like that can go a long way to taking a contract elsewhere, especially if you've already won a ring and there is more money on a different table.
    I highly doubt Cuban lets him walk but he may be forced to if the CBA includes a hard cap. I like Chandler but paying him 12 mill or more is way too much. He is though the type of player we need to get past the Bulls.

  24. #18
    Yeah, I'm a Pacers fan. MyFavMartin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    In the Washington DC area
    Posts
    4,322
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    I thought it was accurate and a big compliment that Indycornrows made the comparison of Matt Howard to Brian Cardinal. Matt probably won't be drafted and I'd love to see the Pacers be the first to offer a contract.

    Otherwise, yes, Barea was lights out shooting, but I really thought Terry was tremendous last night. As for guys I'd want to see in a Pacers uniform: Chandler, hands down. He can work the low post while Roy is at the shoulder with the ball. I'd love to get Butler too but my priority would be Tyson... And if we get someone like Marshon Brooks, I'm not sure we need another wing. I think we should be conservative with the cap space as the CBA may phase in a hard cap that might make capspace very valuable in the next year or two. If that's the case, go after Chandler only ($12 million or less).

    I like James Jones but don't see much PT for him on this team. His outside shooting is very good.

  25. #19
    FREE LANCE MillerTime's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    4,845

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    If we even got Chandler, what would happen to Hibbert?

    There is no way we can start them both
    "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.



  26. #20

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by MillerTime View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    If we even got Chandler, what would happen to Hibbert?

    There is no way we can start them both
    Why? Chandler is as quick as Pau Gasol and Lakers start him at pf a lot.

    Chandler is one of the few guys I think we could start at pf next to Hibbert.

  27. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Gamble1 For This Useful Post:


  28. #21
    Whale Shepherd cdash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    The Sprawl
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,467

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    For the price it would cost to get these guys, I'll pass. Yeah Chandler would be nice but he's a center, not a power forward, and you would be signing him when his value is at an all time high. Barea is nice, but again, he is going to cost a lot more than he's worth and we don't really need another tiny body in the backcourt.

  29. The Following User Says Thank You to cdash For This Useful Post:


  30. #22
    Administrator Unclebuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    32,985

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by pacergod2 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    When Cuban was talking last night, he mentioned a couple of the players by name and he named four of the five starters, with the only one who he left out being Tyson Chandler. I don't think Chandler is petty, but something small like that can go a long way to taking a contract elsewhere, especially if you've already won a ring and there is more money on a different table.

    I heard him on NBATV after the game last night and the only player he mentioned was Chandler. He was with C. Webb and Greg Anthoiny and Matt Winer

  31. #23
    Member CableKC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    San Jose, CA ( 1123, 6536, 5321 )
    Age
    42
    Posts
    25,575

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Butler is the only Player that would fill a need for us if we could live with a wing rotation of Granger/PG/Butler. Barea would be nice but at most he would be a backup. But I would not want to have 2 PGs that are 6 feet tall.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

  32. #24
    Release Psycho T pwee31's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,171

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Interesting chat note

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=1689

    jim in toronto:
    why did heats not sign dirk over bosh

    Bill Ingram:
    Bosh was part of the package . . .and Dirk wasn't leaving Dallas. Miami didn't want Bosh, really, but he was forced on them. They've been talking to teams like Phoenix and New Orleans already about upgrading their PG position in exchange for Bosh, and I'd expect to hear a lot more of those rumors . . .especially if the Hornets wind up moving to KC. Chris Paul won't have any loyalty to KC.
    cory in dallas:
    what heats major thing to do this summer you think and when will we get 5 way of fixing heats and 1 for dallas

    Bill Ingram:
    I think we see the HEAT trade Chris Bosh to Phoenix for Steve Nash. Haslem can give you Bosh numbers if playing with Nash, and they need a real playmaker making the decisions down the stretch of games. The HEAT also have interest in CP3, but unless the team leaves New Orleans Chris is staying put.

  33. #25
    Member Since86's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Muncie
    Posts
    21,743

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Miami/Dallas Free Agents

    Haslem isn't going to put up Bosh numbers. I love the Bosh jokes as much as the next guy, but there are clearly a few levels between him and Haslem.

Similar Threads

  1. Official Offseason Wishlist
    By PacerPride33 in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 315
    Last Post: 05-25-2011, 10:44 PM
  2. 2011 Free Agents List
    By Trophy in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-20-2010, 12:47 AM
  3. Bird cautious about free agents
    By pwee31 in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 07-13-2010, 11:27 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-02-2010, 04:10 PM
  5. IndyStar: Pacers will likely pass on big-name free agents
    By duke dynamite in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-01-2008, 11:33 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •