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    How big of a hit did it take in this finals?

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    who cares. HE LOST!!!

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    who cares. HE LOST!!!
    HAHA. Perfect.

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    He's 26 and he's been to two Finals, one of which was his first year on a new team. I think he'll be alright.

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    I think it reinforced a lot of the negatives. Lebron is a sous chef at best. D-Wade is the head chef. This should put an end to the LBJ v. MJ debate.

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    Same hit Joel Anthony's legacy took.

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    He's 26 and he's been to two Finals, one of which was his first year on a new team. I think he'll be alright.
    He's played a total of 10 NBA Finals games in his career. His record is 2-8, and his averages are significantly worse than his regular season stats.
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    I think it reinforced a lot of the negatives. Lebron is a sous chef at best. D-Wade is the head chef. This should put an end to the LBJ v. MJ debate.
    ok i still think lebron is jordan like but i fking hate ppl that use jordans rings as their only escuse to y jordan is better..... Bill Russell has 11 so is he better than jordan?

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    People need to accept that LeBron will never be as revered as MJ. LeBron's best bet, IMO, is just to accept the challenge to get back the Finals, take a business-like approach, stay the hell out of the media and get his personal life in check.

    I'd say people wouldn't hate LeBron if he wasn't so self-hyped, but I heard all of the same things about Peyton Manning prior to the Colts' 06 championship (and still hear things afterward.) People are going to hate. Best you can do is conduct yourself like a professional and not give them any more reason than necessary to distract you or your team.
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    Think about this before you freak out: Is Lebron James, in one way, the Peyton Manning of the NBA?

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    Think about this before you freak out: Is Lebron James, in one way, the Peyton Manning of the NBA?
    No. Peyton Manning won a championship. I've heard similar things about both, but Peyton has the ring. LeBron does not.

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    He better shut the hell up already and realize he is NOT a winner.

    At this point, he seems like a championship cancer.

    He's a joke with the things he says and does.

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    Payton Manning is more like Dirk Nowitzki than Lebron James imo.
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    He better shut the hell up already and realize he is NOT a winner.

    At this point, he seems like a championship cancer.

    He's a joke with the things he says and does.
    Hard to say he's not a winner when he has never been on a losing team.

    Maybe he's not a champion, but to say not a winner IMO would not be accurate.


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    Since coming to the Heat it seems he has lost that extra gear a star needs to take over in clutch situations. Yeah he made the Finals but it was a more impressive feat when he did it in 2007. Is it just me or is he only a dangerous scorer when he is hitting from 3 nowadays?

    Edit: Also, he only shot 20 free throws the entire series. Where is the aggression?
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    I Wonder what this guy thinks of LeBron's Legacy.


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    I'll wait to judge his legacy until he is at least towards the end of his prime. He is just entering it now.

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    No. Peyton Manning won a championship. I've heard similar things about both, but Peyton has the ring. LeBron does not.
    He doesn't yet. He's only 26 and has more than enough to time win multiple titles.

    The Heat have some problems. They need a better center, they need a better point guard, and they have alpha dog issues. Wade is the obvious choice, but I can't help but feel like these guys don't want to step on each other's toes when the game is on the line. That will change in time. They will get better teammates. Lord knows they will get a better coach. The Heat aren't done, LeBron isn't done, the book hasn't been written on either of them. The only thing I think that was reinforced is that LeBron just doesn't have that killer instinct and will to win that makes great champions like Jordan and Kobe.

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    Hard to say he's not a winner when he has never been on a losing team.

    Maybe he's not a champion, but to say not a winner IMO would not be accurate.
    As in championships, he's not a winner or a champion would be better wording.

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    He doesn't yet. He's only 26 and has more than enough to time win multiple titles.

    The Heat have some problems. They need a better center, they need a better point guard, and they have alpha dog issues. Wade is the obvious choice, but I can't help but feel like these guys don't want to step on each other's toes when the game is on the line. That will change in time. They will get better teammates. Lord knows they will get a better coach. The Heat aren't done, LeBron isn't done, the book hasn't been written on either of them. The only thing I think that was reinforced is that LeBron just doesn't have that killer instinct and will to win that makes great champions like Jordan and Kobe.
    Didn't say they don't have a chance. Just said it's inaccurate to compare LeBron with Peyton. Peyton is a champion. LeBron is not.

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    Yeah can we just quit with all the Jordan comparisons now. Jordan would have put the team on his back in the 4th quarter and got the win. I don't think Lebron is even that close to MJ at this point.

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    Lebron's legacy? As what?

    Best ever? Yea, that went away the second he joined Wade's team. (Not debating whether that's fair or accurate, just stating that it's the perception.)

    Pretty much everything else is up in the air still.

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    i fking hate ppl that use jordans rings as their only escuse to y jordan is better..... Bill Russell has 11 so is he better than jordan?
    How many more reasons do you need? And I'd say there's an argument to be made for a Jordan/Russell debate. Regardless, taking the rings of it, Jordan was at his best in the 4th. You knew he was coming. He never shied away. Maybe Lebron gets there one day. But did you honestly get a sense that Lebron was lurking for a 4th qtr surge tonight? I thought maybe Wade might do so, but not Lebron. Oh, and Jordan has rings.

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    ill just leave this here...

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    Didn't say they don't have a chance. Just said it's inaccurate to compare LeBron with Peyton. Peyton is a champion. LeBron is not.
    Okay, it's inaccurate to compare LeBron with Brian Cardinal. Cardinal is a champion, LeBron is not. That argument doesn't really work. There are parallels to be made between Peyton earlier in his career and LeBron at this point in his career. When LeBron is 33 and on the backend of his career, will we still be talking about him the same way? Maybe, but I think he will have a title or two by then.

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