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    Boo him!
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    Just curious, what's everyone's take on Dunleavy for Thursday? Are people cheering him for being a good guy and former Pacer or booing him for the dirty play on Tyler last month? I'm fully on the boo him everytime he has the ball bandwagon, but I hold grudges like a mofo.
    We don't cheer anybody on the opposing team. I would boo my own mother if she showed up on the other side!
    Man after saying that....kind of makes me wonder.... how does Lebron even look his mother in the eye!

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    We don't cheer anybody on the opposing team. I would boo my own mother if she showed up on the other side!
    Man after saying that....kind of makes me wonder.... how does Lebron even look his mother in the eye!
    I totally agree with that. I felt dirty that I applauded Mark Jackson even. I had heard 2 people saying that they regretted the fact that we went out of our way to boo Brandon Rush when he was back here. Dunleavy was always a fairly liked player so I figure the average fan will have forgotten about him breaking Tyler's face with his elbows and cheer for him. I would've been willing to just ignore him, but now I feel like people cheering him would just be a betrayal to Tyler. Now he gets the Area 55 Frat Boy treatment.

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    I should anger you guys and wear my Dunleavy jersey.

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    I should anger you guys and wear my Dunleavy jersey.
    I tend to get a bit shaky with my drinks. Hint, hint.

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    I'd hate to hear Dun get booed, especially since he didn't screw the Pacers over while leaving.

    The "tradition" of cheering a former player when they are introduced and then being merciless during the game has always appealed to me - it indicates you respect the guy's ties to the local fans but, at the end, he's now the enemy.

    I'd hope A55 says nothing or at most does the "Who Cares".
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    I tend to get a bit shaky with my drinks. Hint, hint.
    You'll show up?! If you do I may actually let you spill a drink on me. LOL JK

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    I'd hate to hear Dun get booed, especially since he didn't screw the Pacers over while leaving.

    The "tradition" of cheering a former player when they are introduced and then being merciless during the game has always appealed to me - it indicates you respect the guy's ties to the local fans but, at the end, he's now the enemy.

    I'd hope A55 says nothing or at most does the "Who Cares".

    Tough ****. After what he did to Tyler, that ****er is getting booed, Gordon Hayward-style.

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    He broke Tyler's face. This means WAR.
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    Come on, guys!

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    Mike Unleavy is going down.

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    Just my two cents worth on Dunleavy. I don't think Area 55 should cheer him on introduction. If you want to boo him or say nothing, I have no strong objections either way. I'm leaving it up to individual members.

    During the game, our policy has always been to freely boo opposing players. Personally, I'm reserving my boos for him during the game itself. I won't mention his family, his sex life, or his arrest record. But when he's at the line, I boo and when he does his usual matador on defense, I'll laugh.

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    I say when he is introduced we just keep it civil and chant Psycho T until our faces turn purple.

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    You guys should do some chants making sure Larry knows we appreciate him and so hopefully he will stay longer. Maybe chant "Larry Bird" after the team wins the game?

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    You guys should do some chants making sure Larry knows we appreciate him and so hopefully he will stay longer. Maybe chant "Larry Bird" after the team wins the game?
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    AREA 55 NEWS YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK!!!!!

    Greetings, 55ers! Tonight our boys will test their mettle again at home against our antlered friends from cheesy Wisconsin. For the Bucks, whose playoff hopes were dealt another blow last night when they lost another important game” to the Wizards, the game falls into the “must win” category. If they don’t win, any whisper of a possibility of their squeaking into the #8 spot will fade to just about zero.

    The Bucks prospects don’t look good. Since trading away Andrew Bogut, they really don’t have a blue chip big man. This bodes well for our bigs. If the past is prologue, our guys will find comfort from our last encounter with Milwaukee. In that set to in the Bradley Center, you will recall Roy Hibbert had 23 points and 14 rebounds, including 6 free throws in the final 74 seconds, to lead Indiana to a 105-99 victory. That loss was an initial blow to the Bucks' playoff hopes. Tonight, we can administer the coup de grace.

    It’s still up in the air as to exactly whom the Pacers will play in the first round of the Playoffs. At 40-22, we have 3rd place in the East basically locked up. That would pit us against the 6th place finisher. Right now, that looks to be Orlando, although in theory it could also be Atlanta or possibly even New York.

    Here’s how things stand as we go to press:

    Orlando, at 36-26 is currently in 6th place. The Magic have 4 games left, against Utah, Denver, Charlotte, and Memphis. All of them are on the road except Charlotte. Their stud center, Dwight Howard, has been out with a herniated disk in his lower back and has not been playing. Whether he’ll be available for the Playoffs is still conjectural. Reportedly, he’s been doing rehabilitation work and last Friday received an epidural. The injection was intended to help him manage his pain and begin rehabbing. Howard’s mouthpieces claim that Dwight wants to return for the postseason. Whether he will or not is up in the air. Supposedly, he’ll be “reevaluated” at the end of Orlando’s regular season. Team officials say whether he’lll return for the Playoffs depends on how he responds to treatment. Meanwhile Orlando’s other stud, Hedo Turkoglu (who has been out since April 5th after fracturing a cheekbone and undergoing surgery) is about ready to resume cardio work. He’ll probably be available to Orlando come playoff time. Even without Howard, Orlando is scary. Ryan Anderson and Turkoglu are deadly 3-point shooters who can also rebound. J. J. Redick is another 3-point specialist that can cause lots of problems. It’s no cinch that we will beat Orlando even if Howard doesn’t play. During the regular season the Pacers were (1-3) against the Magic. All of the games were basically blow-outs. We blew them out once in Orlando. They did it to us twice at home and once on their turf.

    Atlanta, at 37-25, is presently in 5th place. The Hawks still have 4 more games to play, all of them are at home but against formidable competition: Boston, New York, the L.A. Clippers, and Dallas. Their all-star center, Al Horford, has been out since early January – virtually all season -- with a torn pectoral muscles that he incurred against us. According to the local papers in Atlanta, Horford’s rehab has progressed well and he has been cleared for contact practices around two weeks ago. This has raised speculation that he may return to the court at any time – even before the NBA Playoffs begin. Despite Horford’s absence, the Hawks have managed to work their way into the fifth spot in the Eastern Conference. With Horford returning, they become much more dangerous in the playoffs. Horford has career averages of 12.8 points and 9.5 rebounds per game, but really came on in 2010-11, earning his first All-Star berth. The Pacers are 1-2 against the Hawks. The first win was back in January when Horford got hurt. The last 2 losses occurred in February and March, both being around 10 points. In Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, and Jeff Teague, they present real problems for the Pacers.

    For our part, the Pacers, fortunately, are playing their best ball all year. We’ve won 10 out of our last 11 games. Only a fatigue loss to Boston has kept April from being perfect.Accordingly, the Playoff should be really interesting no matter whom our 1st Round foe ultimately turns out to be.

    National Media: Noboby Takes the Pacers Seriously: Check this out, 55ers:

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    The Pacers don’t have a “superstar”. Ergo, the pundits say we merit no consideration as a Playoff contender. See, to be attention-worthy, you have to have a stud – a Derrick Rose, a Carmelo Anthony, a Kobe Bryant. You can’t win a Playoff without a nationally-christened “superstar”. It doesn’t matter if you have an all-star center, a former all-star forward, or a team where anybody playing can potentially explode for 20 on any given night. Nope, and the fact that you’re the hottest team in pro basketball doesn’t matter either. Indiana, y’see, just isn’t “sexy”. How does that make you feel, Pacers players?

    I personally love this assessment. I personally love the inattention. I think, as Larry Bird says, it gives us “something to prove.” I also like what Roy said:

    “I like to say to the guys in the locker room, we’re the best-kept secret. Nobody’s talking about us. The Indiana Pacers are the best-kept secret. Let everybody talk about the teams and have them ranked ahead of us, and we’re just going to go ahead and just do our business and chop them down.”

    Pre-Game Session on Monday! Hey, listen up! I just got this from Kyle Krol:

    “Joe,

    I understand you’re the Go-To Guy for Area 55. So I wanted to see if you could spread the word to the rest of the crew. We will be holding a Pre-game viewing on Monday April 23rd before we take on the Detroit Pistons. We will need everyone who wishes to attend the event to be in the IU Health Entry Pavilion at 4:45 . Then at 5:00PM sharp we will escort the crew down to section 17 where they can catch Roy and the rest of the Pacers warm-up. (Please note that due to security reasons, we will not be able to take any late arrivals down to the Pregame Viewing).

    The Pacers tunnel will be open for autographs once the doors open at 6PM.

    Please CC me on the email that goes out to the rest of Area 55 as I’d like to be kept up to speed with the group.

    Thanks & GO PACERS!”

    PS - I will make sure the “Corn Dogs, Jackie” sign is up in Area 55 for the next few games. After watching Semi-Pro, I now understand the reasoning and hilarity behind the saying.”

    How Did I Miss This? Area 55’s own, Superfan, was interviewed on NBA.com here:

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    He was also referenced at Bleacher Report as being among the “NBA’s Best Fans” here:

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    Nice work, buddy! Make sure Kroger’s lets gives you nights off come Playoff time!

    PTO and Yer Playoff Tix: Still no word from Rob Laycock on Area 55’s allotment of Playoff tix. The last word from him, as reported in my last missive of newsy notes, was “Very soon!” We’re still waiting, Laycock. You have to tell me something on this quick because some of Area 55’s restive members are getting awfully antsy.

    PTO VP and GM, Casey O’Brien reports that he isn’t worried about tickets. And this gives me pause. A convicted felon, specializing in arson, I am concerned that O’Brien may be soon add NBA ticket counterfeiting to his already long criminal rap sheet. This could be bad news for you, Laycock. Get on the stick and give me the skinny on those genuine tix!

    Alas! Sacramento! The Sacramento Kings are a team struggling to find an identity. Under the “guidance” of their controlling owners, Gavin and Joe Maloof, they haven’t had a winning season since the 2005-06 season. They fired their head coach after an early-season confrontation with their young and often volatile center, DeMarcus Cousins, and installed Keith Smart as a replacement. But the Kings have bigger problems than inner turmoil.

    Attendance hasn’t been all that good and last year the Kings’ owners, the Maloofs, were thinking about moving south and relocating their pet rock in balmy Anaheim. This move was averted when Sacramento caved into their demands and agreed to build them a new arena. So guess what? Yup, its Groundhog Day again. The old, “build us a new arena or we walk, saga” is now playing itself out in Sacramento.

    Everything looked OK for Sacramento’s keeping the Kings until recently. Right around All-Star Game Weekend, Sacramento mayor and former NBA great, Kevin Johnson, announced that a “handshake deal” had been worked out with the Maloofs to build that new $387 Million arena. Following the announcement there was much mutual back-clapping and amends-making, with the Maloofs reportedly getting all teary with joy and dancing around ecstatically with Johnson. Thus, fears of concerned Sacramento fans about the move to Anaheim were allayed. All appeared well. However that was then and this is now.

    Now, the Kings’ owners, the Maloofs, appear to be backing out of the “handshake deal” that would have kept the team in Sacramento long-term.

    Specifically, in order to get work started on the new Xanadu $3.5 Millinon in "pre-development fees" have to be paid. These fees, depending on whom it is you talk to, were or were not supposed to be paid by the Maloofs. At any rate, now the Maloofs are saying emphatically that they never agreed to pay any part of these fees. In fact, they're saying there's no deal at all.

    The Maloofs refusal to ante up this money has now stymied progress on the new arena, caused a great deal of fan rancor, and prompted the Mayor to inaugurate what he calls, “Plan B” – an attempt to put together a group of local businessmen wealthy enough to put up money to buy the Kings from the Maloofs.

    This push to force the Maloofs out has led 26 Sacramento business owners (marshalled, of course, by Mayor Johnson) to send a letter to NBA Commish, David Stern, urging him to "strongly encourage" the Maloof family to sell. That message came basically from Johnson's camp as part of his regional initiative, labeled "Think Big Sacramento."

    For their part, the Maloofs have basically gone underground after giving a 90-minute, non-NBA sanctioned press conference “explaining” their position - which is basically that they never agreed to an arena deal in the first place. Their press conference was severely panned by the local media (and privately by other NBA owners) as being very, very lame. .

    "Once again, the Maloofs have turned their back on a deal and shown their contempt for Sacramento," said Assemblyman Roger Dickinson (D-Sacramento).

    Said Mayor Johnson:

    "Sacramento deserves a partner who will honor their commitment, Sacramento deserves a partner who wants to work in good faith, and I think that Sacramento deserves better than we've got to this point."

    A rep named Chris Lehane, acting for Ron Burkle, the current owner of the Pittsburg Penguins NHL hockey team and one of the mega-bucks types Johnson has been courting to buy out the Maloofs, was even more critical:

    "As their bizarre press conference laid bare for all to see, dealing with the Maloofs is like dealing with the North Koreans -- except they are less competent In Maloof world, facts are fiction, truths are half-truths and promises are broken promises. The city of Sacramento deserves better."


    Lehane’s boss, Burkle, by the way, is ranked 107th in Forbes Magazine’s list of the richest people in America (with a net worth $3.2 Billion).

    Maloof family member, George Maloof, has become the Maloofs Point Man #1 in addressing the present situation. He responded to all the attacks by saying that the Maloofs no longer want Mayor Johnson involved in any arena discussions with them.

    "You can't do a deal with somebody you don't trust," Maloof said of Johnson. "I don't trust him." [/I]

    Since the confrontation, the Maloofs have taken to sitting in their suite at Kings games and not in their normal courtside seats, in fear of fan retaliation.

    Both sides have now agreed that a cooling-off period is in order before discussing any more arena issues. However, in an interview with SI.com, George Maloof was miffed at all the outrage.

    "I don't understand why you'd just pile on somebody who has done nothing wrong," he said. "We've done nothing wrong, but work in good faith."

    But Johnson's premise -- that the Maloofs should sell or be forced to sell -- is the part where it all gets puzzling. No matter how badly Johnson and perhaps the NBA might want the Maloofs to hand the team over to someone else, the family continues to say it won't give in to the pressure and aren’t interested in selling. They also claim that relocation to Anaheim isn't an option this time around, even with the latest setback on the arena deal. However, lots of people are skeptical. Maybe the Kings will stay in Sacramento next year (something that looks likely), but after that it’s all up for grabs.

    Given David Stern's history as the kind of Commish who can't be crossed, the notion that there would be no recourse for all of the egg now on the Commish’s face seems unfathomable. Remember the “handshake deal” was negotiated for the Maloofs by the Commish and the NBA.

    The Maloofs are now claiming they voiced their concerns about their supposedly having to pay the “predevelopment money” for 7 weeks without response from the city. Most commentators say, however, that they are now apparently trying to completely back out of a deal that was essentially drafted for them by Stern himself, and funded, in large part by a loan that was to be made to the Maloofs from the Bank of the NBA.

    As mentioned, Stern's team of officials handled all negotiations with the city on behalf of the Maloofs, and Stern has revealed that $67 million of the $73 million to be contributed by the Maloofs was to be in the form of a loan to them from the league (with an additional $7 million in NBA contributions to be made to the project as well that the Maloofs wouldn’t have to pay back). The city's share of the arena cost was expected to be $255 million, while arena operator and builder, AEG, had agreed to pony up $59 million.

    Nonetheless, the Maloofs now contend that revenue projections for the new arena were overly optimistic and that both they and the city would be far too exposed financially over the 30-year life of the deal to make the deal comfortable.

    Basically, the Maloofs are worried that if they take out the loan from the NBA, they won’t have the coin to pay it back. They are also reportedly lawyering up for an antitrust suit in the event the NBA tries to force them to sell to Johnson’s business group under his Plan B. The NBA doesn't have the Major League Baseball rules that allowed commissioner Bud Selig to assume control of the bankrupt Dodgers. Thus, in threatening a possible antitrust lawsuit against the NBA, the Maloof’s are basically angling to force Stern to support their decision to keep control of the team and possibly allow them to move to Anaheim for the 2013-2014 season if that’s what they decide they want to do.

    The Maloofs initially claimed that the $3.25 million redevelopment fee was the main holdup of the deal. Now they are claiming there isn’t any deal at all. In doing so, they have likely lost more than $3.25 Million just in team sponsorships and future season ticket sales due to the public relations disaster the whole thing has become for them. Sources close to the team say there are more than 50 sponsorship contracts up for renewal for next season and there's simply not much incentive for these guys to invest in the Kings’ future. And while the Power Balance Pavilion crowd at Sunday night's game against the Trail Blazers was surprising in its size (16,012) and serenity -- not to mention the appearance of Joe and Gavin Maloof, who watched the game from their suite but scrapped a plan to sit courtside and perhaps even address the crowd -- it's hard to imagine the fan support continuing without the return of hope to Sacramento.

    What it all means going forward remains unclear. Those who see the Maloofs as cash-strapped, debt-ridden owners with no business owning a team hope the likely downturn will force them to sell. Others predict they'll survive next season and have all the evidence they need to tell the NBA to get out of their way and let them split for Anaheim or elsewhere.
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    George Maloof, of course, is insisting publicly that the family wants to remain in Sacramento and has reiterated his stance that Johnson is killing the downtown deal by refusing to negotiate further with them. He has also reportedly reversed his family's long-held stance on the possibility of renovating the current facility, but Johnson said he has no interest in that option.

    "Are we open to further negotiating [on the downtown arena deal]? Of course," Maloof said. "We want to keep trying, because we feel it's important for the team and important for the city. But we are not plotting to move. That is not an option."

    So here’s the bottom line. The Maloofs would have had to take a $67 million loan from the NBA to make a Sacramento arena deal happen – money NBA Commissioner David Stern was ready to pay. However, the Kings already owe the city about that much and the franchise also is said to owe the NBA anywhere from $75 million to $100 million or more. Thus, adding $67 million in Stern charity would have pushed the Kings debt to around $200 million.

    The Maloofs only own a bit more than 50 percent of the Kings. Forbes magazine values the team at around $300 million. Do the math: The Maloofs' share of the Kings is thus worth roughly $150 million. They would have had to take on $200 million in debt to continue to play ball with Sacramento. That's called being underwater.

    Of course, truly upright people would have come clean honorably a long time ago instead blowing it all up at the 11th hour and then blaming Sacramento.

    But that’s the Maloofs.

    It's no wonder the NBA treated them like children too young to sit at the big boys' table for a full year of the arena negotiations. They don't have much going for them except the old American axiom of "possession being nine-tenths of the law.”

    They own the Kings and that's it. Unfortunately, this is the flaw in Kevin Johnson's Plan B. Nobody likes the Maloofs owning Sacramento, including The Commish and the other team owner's whom Stern basically works for. However, none of these owners would like being put in the same position as the Maloofs -- being forced to sell one of their play toys. Hence, forcing the Maloofs out would make for a bad precedent besides, possibly, being illegal under the antitrust laws.
    The chances of Stern divesting the Maloofs of their ownership of the Kings is roughly that of a snowball's in hell. That's bad news for Sacramento.

    And with that, I end.

    GO PACERS! GO AREA 55!
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    Go HAM on Brandon Jennings tonight guys.

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    AREA 55 NEWS YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK!!!!!
    Reportedly, hes been doing rehabilitation work and last Friday received an epidural. The injection was intended to help him manage his pain and begin rehabbing. [/B]
    Hadn't heard that on Howard. Wow, if he's getting the shot (had) I would think he'll shut it down before he blows out that disc completely.
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    is PTO across from or next to Arby's tonight?
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    is PTO across from or next to Arby's tonight?
    As far as I know it's across the street. Parking on weekdays should be $5. If it's next-door, you'll be able to tell from the boozers standing around.
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    **** Mike Dunleavy.

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    **** Mike Dunleavy.
    Is it cool if we boo him now?

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    Is it cool if we boo him now?
    He was getting booed no matter what from me tonight. Tonight just reinforced my new-found hatred in that man.

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    He was getting booed no matter what from me tonight. Tonight just reinforced my new-found hatred in that man.
    Sad thing is the Bucks folks think we were booing him because he "left us". All kinds of wrong.

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