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    Same here, but doesn't it just record all the weather talk?
    Whoops I missed your post earlier and yeah it pretty much did so I deleted it(more room for my DVR its getting kind of full now)

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    We can not rule out the possibility that Brown is always waiting for Lakers.
    Perhaps it´s the scenario.
    Bird have called Brown, and Brown said he have a good chance with Lakers.
    If Lakers choose another coach, then he will likely come to Pacers.
    Birds said OK, and wait for the results.
    And now Brown is signed, both have to move on.
    Just like FA market, Brown is the first domino.
    And it looks like Brown prefers Lakers all the time.

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    and Larry would be the first to tell you that Rick and Harter were a huge reason why he was so successful on the bench.
    This is true, but it seems like whenever I read it, it's used as a knock on Bird as the coach rather than giving him credit for being excellent at what he does best (delegate what he ought to delegate, picking the right people to do said delegation, and otherwise being a leader).

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    Back to Mike, I'm assuming he thought he'd end up in Houston, Golden State, or Indiana, and that he would end up interviewing with all 3 before any final decisions were made.

    Then the news came out he was no longer in the Houston race, then suddenly he looks like a strong possibility in Golden State, then even more suddenly he's the Lakers head coach.

    I don't blame either side for not getting an interview done /offer made before the Lakers job came along, because I honestly don't think that was expected by either party heading into the summer.

    However, it looks like we also were close to losing out on Mike Brown to the Warriors. If that had been the case, I'd have been more disappointed if/when I learn we hadn't had an official interview yet with Mike.

    I think Bird and/or Mike wasn't that serious about him coaching here, or Bird and/or Mike assumed that there was no rush before having the interview and things just ended up the way they did.

    Am I disappointed? Yeah, a little bit, but if we end up with Frank Vogel, I'm not going to cry about it.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...s_lakers052511

    Lakers should’ve consulted Kobe on Brown hire

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    tweet156EmailPrintThe idea that Kobe Bryant(notes) would’ve ever called LeBron James(notes) for a confidential scouting report on Mike Brown is sheer fantasy. They don’t share much of a relationship, and even less a common interest in fortifying each other with the best possible coach for a championship chase. Why would they trust each other’s referrals? James wants the Los Angeles Lakers to fail, just as Bryant does the Miami Heat.

    For Bryant, there was never time to consider Brown’s candidacy as Lakers coach because sources close to him say that he was never asked about the candidates to replace Phil Jackson. The Buss family promised they would proceed this way, without the consultation of the most important person in the franchise.

    These are partnerships in the NBA, and Bryant, with five championships, should’ve been part of the process. Bryant didn’t deserve the chance to choose the next coach, nor did he have the inclination. In the end, such an arrangement makes for an impossible dynamic between an indebted coach and a star player.

    Still, Bryant happens to be one of the sharpest basketball minds in the NBA, an ability to see the game in its most overt and subtle ways. So why wouldn’t you want Bryant’s input? Why wouldn’t you want to lay out to him the plan and vision of returning Bryant and these Lakers to championship basketball?

    Mostly, Lakers vice president Jim Buss had a habit of exacerbating Jackson, and he’ll regret it should that be the basis of his relationship with Bryant now.

    The San Antonio Spurs wouldn’t hire a coach without discussing names with Tim Duncan(notes). Steve Nash(notes) gets immense input – probably too much – with the Phoenix Suns. Those two aren’t twentysomething’s at the apex, but they should still be afforded the chance to have names pushed past them. Bryant? The Lakers can still win titles with him. He’s no ceremonial franchise player. All they had to do was say, “Hey, what’s our feeling on Rick Adelman? Mike Brown? We’re balancing these strengths and weaknesses. What do you think?”

    Jim Buss is running the Lakers now, and this is a frightening proposition for everyone. Bryant doesn’t have a strong sense of Brown, sources with knowledge of his thinking said. He hasn’t offered a blessing or a condemnation. Brown was an Eastern Conference coach. He’s something else too: Jim Buss’ way of pushing far from Phil Jackson, passing over longtime assistant Brian Shaw, and staking claim to his own guy. He’s the insecure and largely incapable son of an iconic owner, the older brother of Jeannie Buss, the far more competent sibling to run the franchise.

    Yet, Jerry Buss is turning these Lakers over to Jim, and that’s the reason sources say he conducted the search with his father and general manager Mitch Kupchak assisting him. Now, Jim Buss has two guys in the franchise: Brown and Andrew Bynum(notes). In fact, Buss has made something clear within the Lakers, sources say: Bynum is untouchable in trade talks.

    For now, this could include a sign-and-deal for the Orlando Magic’s Dwight Howard(notes). The Lakers are Howard’s preference, but they don’t have salary cap space to sign him. They’ll need a deal that includes Bynum to the Magic, but there are those seriously doubting Jim Buss’ desire to make such a trade. After all, Bynum was Jim Buss’ discovery, his pet project and believes Bynum will ultimately resonate as the son’s personal Lakers legacy.

    Buss’ loyalty will be Bynum and Brown. These are his guys now. Still, Brown will find a willing ally in Bryant with his desire to re-galvanize the Lakers’ defense. So much of Brown’s success will come with his assistant coaching staff, and a source says the Lakers have yet to formulate a budget for assistants. Brown has never been reluctant to delegate as a head coach, but will the Lakers pay the money to lure ex-Cavaliers assistant Michael Malone out of New Orleans and renowned Tim Grgurich out of Dallas?

    No matter who comes with Brown, one thing’s for sure: And it won’t be easy. Following Jackson with an aging core almost assures failure, but so few jobs in the NBA are ever happily ever after. Brown owes LeBron James a great deal for his career, but it was no accident that the coach omitted James’ name out of his farewell statement upon getting fired in Cleveland. He had an immature James for most of his time. Against his better judgment, Brown watched James and his childhood buddies run roughshod over everything with no repercussions, and ultimately, no respect for Cavs authority.

    Brown gets Bryant on the back end of his career, 32 years old and desperate for a system, a style, that allows these Lakers to reshape themselves as championship contenders. He was on the air Wednesday speaking awkwardly about exchanging text messages with Bryant. No phone call, though. That’s on the Lakers and how they handled the hiring. Bryant is the most important person in the franchise, the best basketball mind, and he should’ve had his voice heard.

    The Lakers could’ve made this so much easier for Brown, but Jim Buss had to make it clear that these are his Lakers now. His guys, Brown and Bynum, are the untouchables now. That’s great and all, but Bryant is still the most powerful voice, most powerful presence in the Los Angeles Lakers. No, Kobe never should’ve selected the next Lakers coach, but he should’ve connected with him long before a text message on Wednesday night. Whatever Jim Buss thinks, these Lakers will be about the partnership of Mike Brown and Kobe Bryant.

    No, Kobe Bryant never would’ve had an interest in talking to LeBron James about Mike Brown. He wants to beat him, not be James’ buddy like so many players in the NBA. And that alone ought to provide some kind of kinship with Brown. The new coach and franchise star have so much in common, and yes, they’ll talk soon. They should’ve talked far sooner. That’s on Jim Buss, and that’s a shame.

    In the end, this couldn’t be Jim Buss’ coach, but Kobe’s too. That’s the only way that this will work, that they’ll ever get a shot together at LeBron in the NBA Finals. This is a partnership, and the most important part of it all is still Employee No. 24.

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    Mike Browns sucks as a head coach... good defensive specialist, but not an HC. Would have much rather seen him come back to Indiana in his former capacity as a defensive coach.

    LA just dropped down a notch in my opinion with his hiring.

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    The thread is about Mike Brown. Please feel free to recognize that in a thread about Mike Brown being hired by the Lakers, some people are going to upset, that he was not hired by the Pacers. If this bothers you please move along.
    When people go overboard about something people will comment on it. If this bothers you, please don't do it.

    Its one thing to say, "damn that sucks" and move on. Its quite another to have 25 posts out of a 7 page thread. You latch onto things and are incapable of letting go sometimes like Hayward and now Brown. This isn't Brown or bust here, we'll be fine.

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    When people go overboard about something people will comment on it. If this bothers you, please don't do it.

    Its one thing to say, "damn that sucks" and move on. Its quite another to have 25 posts out of a 7 page thread. You latch onto things and are incapable of letting go sometimes like Hayward and now Brown. This isn't Brown or bust here, we'll be fine.
    It is 15 posts on 7 pages FYI, and many of them are in response to questions people ask of me. So I post something, people respond, I respond back whether its in agreement or disagreement is all the sudden latching on to things? Maybe you need a break from the internet there guy. You make yourself look foolish chiding people for posting about Mike Brown in a Mike Brown thread that is only like 2 days old. If you dont want to read about Mike Brown in a Mike Brown thread then don't read a thread about Mike Brown.

    As for letting go of things, i'm not the one bringing up Gordon Hayward on this board. Infact 99% of the time I'm not the one bringing up Gordon Hayward as i only ever post about him in the General NBA thread. There are a handful of posters though who love to bring up Gordon Hayward whenever they can. So please direct your ire towards them.
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    Whoops I missed your post earlier and yeah it pretty much did so I deleted it(more room for my DVR its getting kind of full now)
    Dang, I was afraid of that.

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    It is 15 posts on 7 pages FYI, and many of them are in response to questions people ask of me. So I post something, people respond, I respond back whether its in agreement or disagreement is all the sudden latching on to things? Maybe you need a break from the internet there guy. You make yourself look foolish chiding people for posting about Mike Brown in a Mike Brown thread that is only like 2 days old. If you dont want to read about Mike Brown in a Mike Brown thread then don't read a thread about Mike Brown.

    As for letting go of things, i'm not the one bringing up Gordon Hayward on this board. Infact 99% of the time I'm not the one bringing up Gordon Hayward as i only ever post about him in the General NBA thread. There are a handful of posters though who love to bring up Gordon Hayward whenever they can. So please direct your ire towards them.
    I take the internet too seriously? Says the guy who had to correct the number of posts he had in this thread like it helped your stance. Pot calling the kettle black I think. You seem like you take this way too seriously yourself. Im going to make a word up here but I think you're an 'argue-aholic'. You'd probably argue what color shoes I am wearing and you cant even see me.

    Take your own advice man, take a break.

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    if the Lakers seriously won't trade Bynum for Howard.....

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    I take the internet too seriously? Says the guy who had to correct the number of posts he had in this thread like it helped your stance. Pot calling the kettle black I think. You seem like you take this way too seriously yourself. Im going to make a word up here but I think you're an 'argue-aholic'. You'd probably argue what color shoes I am wearing and you cant even see me.

    Take your own advice man, take a break.
    - I counted them out to see if you actually counted them out or just came up with some number out of your hole. I thought to myself, 25? No freaking way. I'm an "argue-aholic"? Why are so you judgemental? I think you just like to judge people. Complaining about the degree of content another person contributes to threads dedicated to that content. What a joke.
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    if the Lakers seriously won't trade Bynum for Howard.....
    Yeah, that's insane.

    Good for everybody else in the league, but still insane.
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    - I counted them out to see if you actually counted them out or just came up with some number out of your hole. I thought to myself, 25? No freaking way. I'm an "argue-aholic"? Why are so you judgemental? I think you just like to judge people. Complaining about the degree of content another person contributes to threads dedicated to that content. What a joke.
    Of course I came up with a number out of 'my a hole'. I don't care that much to actually post count. Yet, I'm the one who takes this too seriously. Besides that it's not confined to just this thread, you like to pretend it is, but it's not. I've barely been here the last couple weeks but everytime I do, I see you brown nosing Brown, or STARTING arguments about Morey being a screw up. That's all your good for. So yes, argue-aholic. Then when someone points it out, you always claim it's someone else's fault. It's never you, and you're never wrong, even when you are.

    Besides that it's not even about the post count, it's the ridiculous content. "YES! LETS HATE BIRD TOGETHER FOR NOT HIRING BROWN!!! RAWWRR!!"

    Ravenswooders. I should have known better to say anything, but the bad part is I didn't even mention you by name, but your guilty conscious caused you to jump in and attacking me personally, then seem confused when it comes back to you. Speaking of a joke.

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    I thanked the above post just for the word, ravenswooders.

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    FYI

    Mike Brown to appear on Lopez Tonight June 7

    I guess he's going from the sports shows to the late night talk shows.

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    I saw Mike on Saturday. He was wandering around a parking lot, acknowledging fans that were driving by.

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