Mike Brown sucks! Lebron made him a good coach
.Report: Kobe Bryant “surprised” by Mike Brown hiring
May 25, 2011, 11:58 AM EDT
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Superstars are used to being consulted.
So the report of Kobe Bryant’s reaction to the Lakers being on the verge of hiring former Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown, from Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated, says a lot about how this decision was made. And maybe about how it will be received in the locker room.
The source close to the Lakers told SI.com that Lakers star Kobe Bryant was “surprised” by the news, and that he was not a part of the decision-making process. Bryant had been a staunch supporter of Lakers assistant Brian Shaw for the position and remains as such.
Shaw represented the Lakers continuing with a similar style — of offense, of coaching — that they had under Phil Jackson.
Jim Buss and the Lakers brass clearly wanted a change in that. Brown is a big shift, an attempt to change the direction of the ship.
The question is how well that will work.
The Lakers don’t really need an Xs and Os guru — they have a lot of high basketball IQ players with Kobe, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Derrick Fisher, Andrew Bynum and on down the line. They have guys who know how to play, whatever the system.
What Jackson was able to do brilliantly was get those guys to play as a unit, to sacrifice, to win together. (Up until this season, when fatigue of mind, body and the message wore them down.) Can Mike Brown do that? He can bring in energy and push a defense-first agenda, but can he get them to bond and play as a unit the way Jackson has done (and did in Chicago before)?
That is the real question and the real risk with this hire
A head coach? He's not someone I think would command respect.. if Lebron could walk all over him you think Kobe would be different?
In that market with those expectations.. he'll get a pass in Cleveland.. LA is an entirely different beast.
I don't blame him for taking it I blame the Lakers for offering the position to him.
I think he's a great assistant coach especially on defense but head coach?
No I think he sucks. He got the most out of the Cavs but the Lakers he'll underachieve.
His Son hired him not Jerry.. Jerry is giving control to his son as he's getting on in years..
Rather sexist of him since Jeanie is the one with any sense but she's a girl go figure.
Last edited by Basketball Fan; 05-25-2011 at 12:28 PM.
Do you know for a fact we did not reach out to Brown?
I see your point, but frankly L.A beats Indiana 9 times out of 10.
Now if the Pacers did not reach out to him at all, then I would say they were foolish. However, my guess is they have talked to him (or his agent) at least once. Who knows, maybe his agent was shooting for LA the whole time, and was just using Indiana as a back up.
My point is we do not know what happens from the business side of the house, unless you are Larry or Morways assistant, in which case I doubt you would be posting on P.D.
As for Brown, I always liked him and wish him the best. I think he is a bit overrated, but I also think he would have been a good name for us to have (though that opens the door for the argument does having a big-coach matter for us right now)
And Mike Brown let it happen... Phil Jackson wouldn't.
To me this is like the Colts hiring Jim Caldwell WTF were you thinking!? letting him coach one of the greatest to ever play ...
Except Mike Brown is way more respectable in comparison..
I just think L.A. is too much for him. Cavs fans may be cool with early exits but not Lakerland.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
I would not be brave enough to pay Brown 4-5 mil a season over 4 years- we'd be forced to stick by him for a couple of seasons if it all went pear-shaped, which nobody can definitively say wouldn't have happened. Can't blame the FO if those were his demands.
The new look offense of the Lakers will be tested next season, barring a lockout.
Kobe and company have run the triangle offense for more than 3 years now, so the new offense to be instilled by Brown will be the main topic for the Lakers next season.
About their defense, Brown will have very little problem with the Lakers because they have been one of the top teams in terms of defense on the previous years under Jackson.
I have to admit I almost wondered if Phil kind of quit as well (as in, these guys are trying to turn it on and off, plus we know Phil was not in the best of health) and if that did not come into play as well.
Regardless, yes, he lost this team.
Back on topic, 4 years does seem like a long time. Which just makes me think even more Brown wanted LA all along, and had his demands which it looks like he is going to get
Not saying that Frank is in any way equal to Phil Jackson, but based on what we saw in the playoffs he seems to have this same capability. Mastering the mental aspect of the game is what seperates the good teams from the elite ones that have the same talent level and I think Frank has shown that he has a good grasp on what it takes mentally as a team to win. Now we just need to upgrade our talent level.What Jackson was able to do brilliantly was get those guys to play as a unit, to sacrifice, to win together.
Good luck to Mike Brown in Tinseltown. I wish him well.
A healthy man takes a crap every day. A smart man does it on company time.
You also don't ask the first girl you meet in the cafeteria because the one you might really want to go with you is on vacation.
It isn't anywhere near a "week before the prom" situation, here. So far, it's just "one of the girls I might have wanted to ask agreed to go with someone else. Oh, darn."
Another night, another backside-kicking. They just hit you from so many sides, now, in waves. It's like a cavalry, running down hill and trampling you underfoot. You have no tactical advantage, you're just swinging wildly in the mud, and the best strategy might be to play dead.
They are an absolute onslaught right now.
------------ Matt Moore, CBS Sports "Eye On Basketball", 11/12/13
I will say that is a very tough position Brown is going into. Taking over for Phil Jackson - there isn't much upside there. if the lakers win the championship, Brown will get some credit (but not a ton) if they lose early he'll get a lot of the blame.
I could see where goingo thte Rockets, Warriors or Pacers would have been an easier gig
Could we end up landing Adelman? It's looking like we've got a shot.
Last edited by vnzla81; 05-25-2011 at 02:58 PM.
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I really wanted Brown for his toughness and the fact that he wouldn't put up with the wimpy **** from players.
Good for him though. I'm sure he would've liked the Indiana job, but he had a nice offer right there in LA and of course he took it.
I'd love to have his coaching and a team of solid players we bring in. Specifically Nene in Brown's system. That would've been great. Brown loves the toughness from big guys and he'd actually man up Roy. Like I said, he wouldn't put up with wimpy crap and definitely wouldn't like Roy's inability to use his size to his advantage and settle for crappy bunny shots.
There's still some good options out there. I'm pretty bummed we couldn't get a successful coach in Mike Brown and the type of mindset he has. That would've been great for this team who tends to slack, but hopefully with new players, that'll change.
Rick Adelman brings a very tough mindset and wouldn't put up with laziness like Brown.
Inside track means nothing when the Lakers offer you a job. There is no good reason why any coach would pick Indy over LA. They have a better team, more attractive area, more money to offer, and I could go on for days.
If you really think this is a failure by the front office, your crazy. I would love to see a team run by graphic-er. We all thought Kahn was bad, but I'm pretty sure he would look like GM of the year next to him.
I don't think Kobe/Bynum/Fisher quit the rest of the team? Yeah
However Mike Brown will be an epic fail with the Lakers.
You're right comparing him to Caldwell is rather insulting to him.
I guess a better comparison would be Norv Turner.
I can't believe anyone thinks this is a good hire for head coach.
It is official according to Broussard:
"Deal is done. Mike Brown and Lakers agree to 4-year, $18.25 million deal. Team option for 4th year. Brown gets $2.5 mil if option not taken"