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Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

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  • Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

    And the update has Ford giving the Pacers......

    Jimmer Fredette

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 196
    Age: 22
    School: Brigham Young
    Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

    I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step.

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    Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

    Originally posted by beezer615 View Post
    And the update has Ford giving the Pacers......

    Jimmer Fredette

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 196
    Age: 22
    School: Brigham Young
    Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

    I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step.
    I just threw up in my mouth

    I hope they package the pick in a trade
    Sittin on top of the world!

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      Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

      Actually becoming a Jimmer fan, he kind of reminds me of Jason Terry with longer range, and tougher build. I feel I could deal with that, it all depends on who is available.

      But in Fords mock I would take one person that is still on the board first.

      I would grab Donatas, and strongly consider Marshon Brooks and Reggie Jackson.

      I feel that Donatas and Jimmer both have the ability to become special NBA players, haven't really seen much from Marshon and Reggie, but what I have seen I have liked a lot.
      Why so SERIOUS

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        Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

        Here is the whole mock by the way...


        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Cleveland
        (via L.A. Clippers)


        Kyrie Irving

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-foot-4
        Weight: 191 pounds
        Age: 19
        School: Duke
        Analysis: How sure are we that the Cavs will be selecting Irving? While they say they're bringing in a number of other prospects for a closer look, Irving has only scheduled Cleveland at this time. Unless the Cavs are persuaded to trade the pick, I think Irving is a very safe bet at the top. Long-term, the Cavs have needs everywhere, and Irving is the safest pick in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Minnesota


        Derrick Williams

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 249
        Age: Turns 20 on May 25
        School: Arizona
        Analysis: Owner Glen Taylor said Monday that he doesn't think the Wolves will trade their pick. That will come as a pretty big surprise to a number of GMs who claim that the Wolves are already talking to teams about the pick. The problem for the Wolves is that Williams plays the same positions as their best two players -- Kevin Love and Michael Beasley.

        They could trade either player (Love especially would welcome a trade), but I'm not sure Williams is an upgrade. That leaves them with dealing this valuable asset and hoping to get back a few solid veterans to stabilize the team. So that's why I'm very confident Williams will go No. 2 -- I'm much less confident on which team will actually do the drafting.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Utah
        (via New Jersey)


        Brandon Knight

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-3
        Weight: 177
        Age: 18
        School: Kentucky
        Analysis: The Jazz are looking at everything at this point. Trading up, trading down, trading out and then looking at a number of prospects at No. 3. Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jan Vesely, Jonas Valanciunas and Enes Kanter are all in the mix here.

        But of that group, I think Knight has the edge. The Jazz love big guards, players who can defend multiple positions, guards who can shoot the basketball and high-character players. Knight checks off most of those boxes. The rest of the group all are a bit riskier.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Cleveland


        Enes Kanter

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-11
        Weight: 260
        Age: 19
        Country: Turkey
        Analysis: Kanter had a very good week at the Chicago combine. His measurements established him as a legit NBA center prospect. He played hard, showed he was in great shape and impressed during interviews. But there are still legitimate questions about how all those things will translate at the next level.

        On one hand, he could be the best prospect in the draft. On the other, he could be yet another in a long line of international workout wonders. I do think he'll have major appeal for the Cavs. Not only does he have tremendous upside, but he is tough, can play inside and out, rebounds the basketball and has a higher basketball IQ than most kids his age. You could do a lot worse than building around Irving and Kanter.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Toronto

        Jan Vesely

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-11
        Weight: 240
        Age: 21
        Country: Czech Republic
        Analysis: I'm still trying to get the pulse of what's happening in Toronto. Now that Bryan Colangelo has his extension, he can afford to take more risks. The question is … who does he gamble on? Last week we had Valanciunas here. He's still in the mix, but I've been told that Vesely is even higher on his list.

        A terrific athlete, Vesely is ready to play right now and adds great size to Toronto's front line. Kemba Walker is also a legit option here and if for some reason Brandon Knight falls, he won't slip past the Raptors.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Washington

        Kawhi Leonard

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-7
        Weight: 228
        Age: 19
        School: San Diego State
        Analysis: Leonard had a good week in Chicago as well. He measured with a 7-foot-3 wingspan and had the biggest hands in the camp. He also put on a brief shooting display for GMs on Friday morning, showing off a new and improved shot.

        With GM Ernie Grunfeld's job hanging in the balance, he doesn't have a lot of room to take risks -- especially on international players who might not come to Washington for years. Leonard's ability to come in and provide energy, defense and length right away makes him an attractive option and a potential impact player in Year 1.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Sacramento

        Kemba Walker

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-1
        Weight: 184
        Age: 21
        School: UConn
        Analysis: We continue to keep Walker planted here in Sacramento, though from what I can gather, Geoff Petrie is considering a number of options including trades. Petrie is in the same boat as Grunfeld. His job isn't very safe, and the past two years Petrie has opted for a "sure-thing" player who could produce in Year 1. Walker is that guy at this point in the draft and, as an added bonus, doesn't have the same character issues that Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins had.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Detroit

        Jonas Valanciunas

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-10
        Weight: 230
        Age: 19
        Country: Lithuania
        Analysis: For the third straight week, the Pistons' player changes. This time, it's because of opportunity. In the past two mocks I've had Valanciunas going before the eighth pick. If he slides this far, I think the Pistons will grab him.

        Yes, Detroit will also look at both Bismack Biyombo and Tristan Thompson here. But Valanciunas has two things the Pistons covet: size and major upside. They may have to wait on him a year, but many NBA scouts believe he's the most talented international player in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Charlotte


        Bismack Biyombo

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 243
        Age: 18
        Country: Congo
        Analysis: The Bobcats are desperate for a big man who can defend the paint. Enter Biyombo. How much do we really know about him? Not much. But the Bobcats desperately need his length, athleticism, rebounding and toughness. Michael Jordan has never been afraid to take risks and, if he is sold on Biyombo, he won't be afraid to do it here either.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Milwaukee

        Tristan Thompson

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 228
        Age: 20
        School: Texas
        Analysis: The Bucks are set at center and point guard, but could really use help at the 2, 3 or 4 position. If Thompson slides this far, it might be tough for them to pass on him.

        Thompson would give the Bucks athleticism and toughness in the front court -- something they tried to address during free agency with Drew Gooden last year. He is still a work in progress on the offensive end of the ball, but he may be the best offensive rebounding forward in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Golden State

        Marcus Morris

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 230
        Age: 21
        School: Kansas
        Analysis: The Warriors have a lot of front court needs, especially at the 5. But without a legit center available at this point, Morris is a serious option for them. His ability to play multiple positions and score the basketball both on the perimeter and in the post, plus his maturity level, make him a great fit in Golden State.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Utah
        (0.7% chance of winning lottery)


        Chris Singleton

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 230
        Age: 21
        School: Florida State
        Analysis: With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency this summer, the Jazz are set to lose their most versatile defender. Enter Singleton. He's not the most polished offensive player in the world (sound familiar, AK-47 fans?), but his ability to guard multiple positions and his size for his position are intriguing for the Jazz. The question is, with Singleton rising on many draft boards … will he still be here at No. 12? Teams as high as the Raptors at No. 5 are looking at him.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Phoenix

        Alec Burks

        Position: SG
        Height: 6-6
        Weight: 193
        Age: 19
        School: Colorado
        Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Burks takes them decidedly on the rebuilding track. He is one of the best athletes in the draft and should be a good long-term replacement for Vince Carter if he continues to work on his jump shot.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Houston

        Jordan Hamilton

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 229
        Age: 20
        School: Texas
        Analysis: Hamilton was another player who really impressed in Chicago. His size and ability to shoot the basketball combined with his aggressive scoring instincts should fit well in Houston. Since trading away Shane Battier, small forward has been a need.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Indiana


        Jimmer Fredette

        Position: SG
        Height: 6-3
        Weight: 196
        Age: 22
        School: Brigham Young
        Analysis: Will Pacers fans finally get the real life version of Jimmy Chitwood? Fredette's ability to score the basketball is legendary and actually fits a need for the Pacers. In the fourth quarter of games this season, they really struggled to find a player who could hit the big shot.

        I'm not sure Fredette is the point guard of the future in Indiana. He may be more of a scoring fixture (a la Ben Gordon) coming off the bench. Either way, his ability to contribute right away should give the Pacers another bump as they try to take the next step.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Philadelphia


        Markieff Morris

        Position: PF/C
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 241
        Age: 21
        School: Kansas
        Analysis: The Sixers really need a big man, and Morris, a Philly native, is the best left on the board. Morris has a rep as a good defender, shot-blocker and rebounder -- but he also proved at Kansas this year that he can step out and hit the 3. He's a bit rawer than his brother, but he's a good get at this point in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        New York


        Josh Selby

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-3
        Weight: 195
        Age: 20
        School: Kansas
        Analysis: GM Donnie Walsh may have made the biggest mistake of his career when he passed on a number of terrific young but unproven point guards in 2009 so he could draft Jordan Hill. Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson and Jrue Holiday -- and even Darren Collison, Eric Maynor and Jeff Teague -- all appear to be on their way to a long NBA career. Don't expect the Knicks to make the same mistake again.

        They've been looking long and hard at Selby for a while, thinking he'd thrive in Mike D'Antoni's system, which allows guards much more freedom than they get at Kansas. Selby has lottery talent but a shaky résumé. It may be a risk taking him this high, but he has a very high upside.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Washington
        (via Atlanta)


        Klay Thompson

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-7
        Weight: 206
        Age: 21
        School: Washington St.
        Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency, and the Wizards could use another shooter in their backcourt to complement Wall. Thompson rivals Fredette as the best shooter in the draft and would be a great fit for the Wizards.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Charlotte
        (via New Orleans)


        Marshon Brooks

        Position: SG
        Height: 6-5
        Weight: 195
        Age: 22
        School: Providence
        Analysis: Brooks continued his rapid rise on draft boards with a terrific performance in Chicago. Two weeks ago, when I first wrote about him after a workout in Chicago, he sat in the mid-second round on most draft boards. Now there's talk about his ceiling being somewhere in the lottery.

        For now we have Brooks going to a team that could really use an aggressive scorer. Gerald Henderson came on late in the season, but they're totally different players.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Minnesota
        (via Memphis)


        Donatas Motiejunas

        Position: PF
        Height: 7-0
        Weight: 220
        Age: 19
        Country: Lithuania
        Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up. He's an aggressive scorer and he has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Portland


        Kenneth Faried

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-8
        Weight: 225
        Age: 21
        School: Morehead State
        Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him. His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Denver


        Tobias Harris

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-8
        Weight: 223
        Age: 18
        School: Tennessee
        Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Houston
        (via Orlando)


        Reggie Jackson

        Position: PG
        Height: 6-3
        Weight: 208
        Age: 21
        School: Boston College
        Analysis: Kyle Lowry is coming off a career year, but Jackson would give them a very different look. Jackson is a terrific athlete, has a ridiculous 7-foot wingspan and shot the lights out his junior year. He has virtually every quality you look for in a modern NBA point guard and would likely be a good complement to Lowry.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Oklahoma City


        Nikola Mirotic

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-10
        Weight: 226
        Age: 21
        Country: Serbia
        Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient -- two critical traits in a great GM. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. If he stays in the draft -- a big "if" at this point -- someone will gamble on him. If it's Presti, he could be getting a major steal down the road.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Boston


        Nikola Vucevic

        Position: C
        Height:7-0
        Weight: 260
        Age: 20
        School: USC
        Analysis: The Celtics need size and Vucevic was one of the players who helped his draft stock the most the past week in Chicago. His measurements were off the charts and gave teams hope he could be a legit NBA center. Given his skill in the post, he could be a steal at this point in the draft.



        PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


        Dallas


        Davis Bertans

        Position: SF
        Height: 6-10
        Weight: 210
        Age: 18
        Country: Latvia
        Analysis: It's unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that's how some scouts were referring to him. Bertans doesn't have Nowitzki's size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long-term, he could be a really nice addition.



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        New Jersey
        (via L.A. Lakers)


        Justin Harper

        Position: PF
        Height: 6-9
        Weight: 228
        Age: 21
        School: Richmond
        Analysis: Harper fits a need for New Jersey. He is big and athletic and can shoot the ball with range. After experimenting with guys like Yi Jianlian and Troy Murphy in this role over the past few years, Harper is cheaper and has more upside.



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        Chicago
        (via Miami)


        Tyler Honeycutt

        Position: G/F
        Height: 6-8
        Weight: 187
        Age: 20
        School: UCLA
        Analysis: The Bulls continue to look for long-term answers at the 2, and Honeycutt could be a really nice steal here if he slides this far. He not only has a great basketball IQ and the ability to handle the ball but is also a good shooter who can stretch the defense.



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        San Antonio


        Jeremy Tyler

        Position: C
        Height: 6-11
        Weight: 263
        Age: 19
        Team: Tokyo Apache
        Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready. Tyler doesn't quite fit that model. He stashed himself overseas … but the point is he's got tremendous upside for a team willing to be patient with him. Given the strong reaction to Tyler at the predraft camp, I'm not sure he lasts this long on the draft board.



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        Chicago


        Charles Jenkins

        Position: SG
        Height: 6-3
        Weight: 217
        Age: 22
        School: Hofstra
        Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Jenkins' ability to play both backcourt positions is intriguing. He is big, strong, a very good shooter and one of the best pure scorers in the draft. He is a real sleeper.

        Next Five In: Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Darius Morris, PG, Michigan; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Lucas Nogueira , C, Brazil; Travis Leslie, SG, Georgia
        Why so SERIOUS

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        • #5
          Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

          At least his reasoning makes sense

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          • #6
            Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

            There are several guys I would rather see taken at 15.

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            • #7
              Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

              Obligatory "Bird just wants to draft another white guy" post.

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              • #8
                Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                I like it. This draft sucks and I think Jimmer, at worst, will be a solid bench player who can come in and score points at will. His defense will never be good and he will never be much of a point guard, but as Chad Ford said, he could be Ben Gordon-lite for us.

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                • #9
                  Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                  Not a bad gamble at 15, but I just don't see us drafting another PG...not after how much we leaned on AJ Price in the playoffs.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                    Originally posted by Shade View Post
                    Obligatory "Bird just wants to draft another white guy" post.
                    Whats wrong with white people? Most of my best friends are white.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                      No thank you. Give me Donatas Motiejunas!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                        Go for gold here and Draft Selby. Need or not this man has the single most upside of anyone we could snag at 15.

                        He really does have a Jrue Holiday kind of feel to him in that he was a can't miss HS prospect who underperformed at the college level in a system that didn't showcase his strengths but has the potential to be an All Star.

                        That is of course if we can't deal the pick in some package for Mayo or whomever that has already been discussed.
                        I don't want to sound condescending, which means to talk down to you by the way

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                        • #13
                          Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                          Originally posted by mikeyism View Post
                          Not a bad gamble at 15, but I just don't see us drafting another PG...not after how much we leaned on AJ Price in the playoffs.
                          I don't think he's a PG. I think he's a scoring guard. Jason Terry-lite, perhaps.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                            Reggie Jackson please.

                            If we are going to get a backup point, I'd rather get a guy with legit size that can be a tremendous defensive asset.

                            Edit: At least I think Reggie has a good chance of becoming a starter in a few years. Jimmer will never be a starter.
                            First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Chad Ford Mock Draft 3.0

                              Selby>Jimmer

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