View Poll Results: Trade Hibbert for Iggy, or keep Hibbert and trade for Mayo (if Nene is signed by Pacers)?

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  • Trade Hibbert/pick for Iggy

    9 10.34%
  • Keep Hibbert, trade pick for Mayo

    66 75.86%
  • No interest in Mayo or Iggy

    12 13.79%
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    Default Re: Iggy or Mayo?

    Quote Originally Posted by notque View Post
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    Under no circumstances should we trade Hibbert imho
    I think that is a little strong. Hibbert isnt going anywhere because another team will not meet our demands. Nobody should be untouchable on a sub-
    .500 team.

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    Default Re: Iggy or Mayo?

    Where do people keep getting the idea that Mayo has played considerably better since the trade deadline?

    Regular season: 11.3 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 2.0 APG
    Playoffs: 11.2 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 2.4 APG


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    Default Re: Iggy or Mayo?

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    Where do people keep getting the idea that Mayo has played considerably better since the trade deadline?

    Regular season: 11.3 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 2.0 APG
    Playoffs: 11.2 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 2.4 APG

    It comes from a bit deeper look at stats and watching games:

    Pre-trade deadline per 36 minutes stats
    15.4 PPG, 2.4 APG, 1.25 STL, 1.85 TO, 0.405 FG%, 0.357 3P%
    Assit/turnover ratio: 1.3. Steal/turnover ratio: 0.67.

    Post-deadline per 36 minutes (taking out the last 2 games since Memphis tanked them and didn't use the usual units)
    16.1 PPG, 3.7 APG, 1.9 STL, 1.75 TO, 0.406 FG%, 0.397 3P%
    Assit/turnover ratio: 2.1. Steal/turnover ratio: 1.1.

    I added this based on pre/post All star averages, so there may be a small margin of error here and there. Don't have time to be extremely precise.
    But the idea is clear - he played less minutes, but he's been way more efficient.

    And the stats don't even begin to capture his increased value on D. Not that he ever was a bad defender, but he's been very good since deadline.

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    Default Re: Iggy or Mayo?

    I didn't say he wasn't playing a little better, but they way people are talking, you'd think he turned into an All-Star.

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    It comes from a bit deeper look at stats and watching games:

    Pre-trade deadline per 36 minutes stats
    15.4 PPG, 2.4 APG, 1.25 STL, 1.85 TO, 0.405 FG%, 0.357 3P%
    Assit/turnover ratio: 1.3. Steal/turnover ratio: 0.67.

    Post-deadline per 36 minutes (taking out the last 2 games since Memphis tanked them and didn't use the usual units)
    16.1 PPG, 3.7 APG, 1.9 STL, 1.75 TO, 0.406 FG%, 0.397 3P%
    Assit/turnover ratio: 2.1. Steal/turnover ratio: 1.1.

    I added this based on pre/post All star averages, so there may be a small margin of error here and there. Don't have time to be extremely precise.
    But the idea is clear - he played less minutes, but he's been way more efficient.

    And the stats don't even begin to capture his increased value on D. Not that he ever was a bad defender, but he's been very good since deadline.

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    Default Re: Iggy or Mayo?

    Of course not an All Star, but there's significant improvement across the board. Besides physical stuff (size and short arms and lack of athleticism), what are the main knocks on Mayo throughout his career? First, high mistake rate for a combo guard. And questionable shot selection. He was wasting possessions. Since deadline, he's been especially improved in those areas. He just played smart basketball.

    In fact, when it comes to advanced turnover metrics, he's been around top 10 in the league. No All Star, but very solid 6th man for a great Memphis team.

    The main Mayo question in this thread has been - will he be available for a Pacers 1st pick. Pre-deadline, you could sort of understand why Memphis would take that offer.

    This summer, I would be very surprised. He's turned into a Jason Terry with lower usage rate and better D. Granted, it's only been a few months, but it does look like he's finally mastering his role.
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