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    Default Vogel interviewed by Rockets (Update post #91 - Vogel no longer a candidate

    “@MikeWellsNBA: Add Frank Vogel to the continuing growing list of people to have interviewed for the vacant Houston Rockets position, according to a source”

    “@MikeWellsNBA: Vogel and Rockets general manager David Morey were together with the Boston Celtics.”
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    Default Re: Vogel interviewed by Houston Rockets

    Back off *****. He's ours.

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    Default Re: Vogel interviewed by Houston Rockets

    Well if he doesn't get this job here real soon, I can imagine that he'll get several more interviews by other teams very shortly. Other teams really took notice of how good of a job he did when he got his chance this season. I think the Pacers are taking him for granted.

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    Okay. Quit screwing around with your little arguments Bird and Simon. Time to make a decision, move forward with the future of the franchise and lock Vogel up for a few years.

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    Default Re: Vogel interviewed by Houston Rockets

    We wouldn't let him go to job interviews if we had planned on bringing him back.

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    Default Re: Vogel interviewed by Houston Rockets

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    We wouldn't let him go to job interviews if we had planned on bringing him back.
    We have no way of stopping him, he is a free agent right now and he needs to secure a job.

    If the team has no intention of keeping him I can live with this (I guess) but if they let him slip away because Bird & Simon are playing tag with each other I will be mightily p!ssed.


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    Tomorrow's Friday and that's when the official meeting between Bird and Simon is supposed to be held.

    Hopefully things are effectively done especially giving Vogel an extension.

    This meeting with Houston doesn't mean anything. I'm sure Houston knows that Vogel is more than likely returning to be our coach, but were just interested to hear what he had to say.

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    Tomorrow's Friday and that's when the official meeting between Bird and Simon is supposed to be held.

    Hopefully things are effectively done especially giving Vogel an extension.

    This meeting with Houston doesn't mean anything. I'm sure Houston knows that Vogel is more than likely returning to be our coach, but were just interested to hear what he had to say.
    I heard on 1070 today that Simon will meet Bird in Los Angeles on Monday at 10 AM.

    I hope Bird and Simon come out of the meeting on the same page with Bird continuing in his present role... or even President/GM as far as I'm concerned. The sooner Bird re-ups, the sooner we can get Vogel on board.

    I've thought about Bird saying that Vogel would get the first interview and also last interview. If you really think about it, if he only interviewed Vogel, I suppose that would be a true statement, right?

    A coach like Vogel is hard to find. He's a "player's coach", having developed a very good raport with his players. He got them to consistently perform in the final stretch of the season and in the playoffs. In fact, they delivered on what he stated he wanted... a "smashmouth" team.

    I say give him 3 years and one or two additional players through trades or FA and let's see what he can do.

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    As far as I know everyone working for the Redskins FO is not getting paid during the lockout.

    I cannot say for a fact if that is true for our head coach, but I cannot imagine a coach would get paid during a lock-out

    As for the issue at hand, meh. The Rockets have interviewed lots of guys, but I do really like Frank

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    As Gnome said, Bird and Simon will meet Tuesday, not tomorrow.

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    I hope we make a complete overhaul. I like Vogel but if keepng him means keeping Bird and ultimately standing pat, no thanks.

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    I hope we make a complete overhaul. I like Vogel but if keepng him means keeping Bird and ultimately standing pat, no thanks.
    Keeping Vogel won't impact that.

    Vogel is pretty much the opposite of what Bird saw and liked for 4 years in O'Brien.

    I just want something to get done by tomorrow whether it's extending Vogel or Bird making up his mind on his future.

    I hope we bring in Kevin Pritchard to the FO whether he replaces Bird or Morway. I like his willingness to take risks and bring in talent to make his team better. With all this cap space, he's gonna be in heaven.

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    Keeping Vogel won't impact that.

    Vogel is pretty much the opposite of what Bird saw and liked for 4 years in O'Brien.

    I just want something to get done by tomorrow whether it's extending Vogel or Bird making up his mind on his future.

    I hope we bring in Kevin Pritchard to the FO whether he replaces Bird or Morway. I like his willingness to take risks and bring in talent to make his team better. With all this cap space, he's gonna be in heaven.
    extending Vogel before the lockout to me is stupid just kind of a waste of money if we are locked out.

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    extending Vogel before the lockout to me is stupid just kind of a waste of money if we are locked out.
    Is his salary prorated? If it's not prorated, then it won't matter if we extend him before or after the lockout.

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    Is his salary prorated? If it's not prorated, then it won't matter if we extend him before or after the lockout.
    You get paid though the lock out if you are a coach or FO i think but i am not very sure.

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    extending Vogel before the lockout to me is stupid just kind of a waste of money if we are locked out.
    Buck's addressed this issue numerous times, but you have to have a coach in place during the lockout for a variety of reasons.

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    Right on melli. I hope he gets the job to be honest. That way I feel better about going in a different direction. I hope the negotiating between Bird and Simon is over quickly. They both seem to be agreeable and rational men. Some may disagree.

    Bird makes this franchise a better franchise. His talent evaluations have helped us tremendously. And his iconic "Legend", doesn't hurt. Anything we can do to bring more attention to the Pacers, the better. Our franchise needs it. We need to become a profitable franchise through this new CBA and team growth. With the rumblings of moving franchises around more easily, I would hate for our small market to be a target. Let Indiana keep its basketball.

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    Am I the only one who's first thought was "good for Frank"?
    That was my reaction exactly.

    I will say this, I believe Frank will make an excellent representation of himself in an interview. Would not be surprised if he moves up into the top 3 or 4 - and is on the Rockets short list

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    Buck's addressed this issue numerous times, but you have to have a coach in place during the lockout for a variety of reasons.

    Am I the only one who's first thought was "good for Frank"?
    Honestly, I want Frank to be the Pacers coach.

    But first and foremost, I like the guy, I think he's earned a head coaching job, and I want him to have a coaching job. It'll suck if it isn't with the Pacers...but at least he's got other options.

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    extending Vogel before the lockout to me is stupid just kind of a waste of money if we are locked out.

    Of all the possibly scenerios what you have outlined is the absolute worst. "Waiting until after the lockout" to do anything that can be done now is a horrible idea. I trust the pacers have zero intentions of waiting until the lockout is over to do anything

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    Of all the possibly scenerios what you have outlined is the absolute worst. "Waiting until after the lockout" to do anything that can be done now is a horrible idea. I trust the pacers have zero intentions of waiting until the lockout is over to do anything
    So if it was your money you would just throw it away and give it to a guy to sit on his *** for a year during the lockout? If I was in charge I might sign Vogel to a one year 50k deal and have incetives in it that say if basketball is played he will get another 450K. I honestly dont think b ball will be played next year it is gonna be super ugly especially if the Heat win.

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    Keeping Vogel won't impact that.

    Vogel is pretty much the opposite of what Bird saw and liked for 4 years in O'Brien.

    I just want something to get done by tomorrow whether it's extending Vogel or Bird making up his mind on his future.

    I hope we bring in Kevin Pritchard to the FO whether he replaces Bird or Morway. I like his willingness to take risks and bring in talent to make his team better. With all this cap space, he's gonna be in heaven.
    But I think if we get a new president of basketball operations, they will want to hire a coach that they like rather than keep the one we already have.

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    But I think if we get a new president of basketball operations, they will want to hire a coach that they like rather than keep the one we already have.
    If they're aware of what Vogel's done for the team which I hope they're aware, then he'd be brought back. The players like him.

    I guess he'd bring in who he wants, but after the display in the playoffs and ever since taking over, any GM/President would keep him.

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    I hope we make a complete overhaul. I like Vogel but if keepng him means keeping Bird and ultimately standing pat, no thanks.
    You should change your name to Captain Oblivious.

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    Default Re: Vogel interviewed by Houston Rockets

    I just hope we see the value in him. Because other teams obviously do..

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