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    Others that I like in the 1st but don't see as a need pick for the Pacers: Singleton of FSU, Honeycutt of UCLA, Kemba (won't be available at 15)... and whoever I was with the #1 pick, definitely Derrick Williams, who I see a lot of Danny in... Kyrie is good but I'm not sold on him being a superstar... I think Williams is the much better pick talent-wise.

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    Draft Nogueira for his awesome nickname (Bebe).

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    I want to see Jamie Skeen of VCU against some of the top PF/C candidates in predraft camps. Could be someone in the 2nd, if he shows well.

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    I want to see Jamie Skeen of VCU against some of the top PF/C candidates in predraft camps. Could be someone in the 2nd, if he shows well.
    He would be a good second rounder.

    Personally I would rather trade our first round pick if it means we get a quality player in return.

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    Sounds great, but I think you might be overvaluing the 15th pick.

    As far as prospects go, I like Kenneth Faried. He plays like a slightly smaller Ben Wallace. In a draft that is short on shot blocking, board crashing, physical low post defenders, he fits that mold perfectly.

    No need to go for a small PF. We have one in Hans now.

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    Minny has the 2nd pick and Kyrie is available. They offer us the pick for PG and DC. Do you do it?

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    Minny has the 2nd pick and Kyrie is available. They offer us the pick for PG and DC. Do you do it?
    yes Minney doesnt have the 2nd pick they could have any pick 1-3. I would do that deal in a heartbeat.(and i am really high on George)
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    funny how you named only white players when in reality, jimmer is much closer to a steph curry than any of the players you listed...

    also for every hyped white shooter that happened to not have a successful nba career, i can name you a mark price or scott skiles or rex chapman or kyle korver


    It's people like you that can't keep their race comments to themselves that just frosts my ***! Until you mentioned they were all white, I didn't even realize it. What I saw was players who Jimmer could end up being like.

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    Marshon Brooks or Jimmy Butler in the 2nd, if available.
    I don't follow college ball but it seems Marshon Brooks is getting some pretty good pub for an off ball guard.
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    Assuming Indiana keeps their pick, a Morris twin will probably be the selection.

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    Minny has the 2nd pick and Kyrie is available. They offer us the pick for PG and DC. Do you do it?

    You can say that after watching PG's "D" on Rose!!!! Let Khan draft another PG.

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    Hopefully we trade the pick.

    Bird was actively looking to trade last year's pick, but he was really high on Paul so he took him.

    This seems like a pretty weak draft. We can use some veterans so I'd package the pick and hopefully get someone decent.

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    Minny has the 2nd pick and Kyrie is available. They offer us the pick for PG and DC. Do you do it?
    Not at all. No freakin way.

    Irving = Question mark. You never know exactly how a player will turn out, and the statistics regarding #2 picks are shocking. They rarely work out. Plus, with him being injured and only getting to see a little of his game, he is a huge risk.

    If you keep DC and PG (Remember, 2nd year guy and rookie) you have two probable starters for the next 5-10 years, guys who stepped up big at different moments. Let DC get some polish, he should be excellent.

    No way do I let two very young players go for a gamble on a player that we know very little about.

    I'd like either an athletic 2 or a big 4/5. Personally.

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    What will be interesting is if Bird will select brother Ben if he is available in the 2nd round?
    What will be interesting is if Bird stays around another year

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    Draft Nogueira for his awesome nickname (Bebe).
    I was thinking about that yesterday, Guy is long and slim,but Has a unique type of game, Not sure how long it would take him to add strength but he could end up being a future lottery pick if he went to college and gained weight and strength.

    Guy is thinner than John Henson, lol

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    Minny has the 2nd pick and Kyrie is available. They offer us the pick for PG and DC. Do you do it?
    I don't think I would, I like Kyrie's game and I think that he does have some CP3 in him but he is a unproven rookie that only played in half of his college games...

    Actually I might, lol I think I am torn right now.... if Kyrie was a little faster it would be a no brainer.... Glad I'm not a GM

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    Are we looking at the same numbers?
    1.00, 1.12, 1.50 a/t davidson
    1.49, 1.59, 1.71, 1.22 a/t at byu

    not sure what a/t numbers you are looking at. the point was a cumulative look at these players' college careers. jimmer averaged more assists prior to curry's last year as well.

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    1.00, 1.12, 1.50 a/t davidson
    1.49, 1.59, 1.71, 1.22 a/t at byu

    not sure what a/t numbers you are looking at. the point was a cumulative look at these players' college careers. jimmer averaged more assists prior to curry's last year as well.
    Personally, I don't like Jimmers game.

    However, I found the stats you posted very surprising. I wouldn't have thought that at all.

    Although I don't like his game, based on his stats you make a good argument for at least considering him.

    Don't forget, Curry was forced to play the 1, and he has the advantage of 2 guys that will help rack up the assists in Monta and David Lee.

    I just don't think Jimmer fits with our needs. Not a great driver, not a good defender...he would be a perfect role player like Korver. Bring him off the bench 10-18 min a game, let him take 5-10 shots, if he gets hot he wins you a few games. But, I don't know if that kind of player is worth a 15 pick.

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    What will be interesting is if Bird stays around another year
    The way he was chewing on that thumb makes me think he's sticking around. Bird actually showed some real nervous passion and I think he would miss that.
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    It's people like you that can't keep their race comments to themselves that just frosts my ***! Until you mentioned they were all white, I didn't even realize it. What I saw was players who Jimmer could end up being like.
    people like me huh? the fact that you didn't realize a player being compared to 4 others for the sole purpose of pointing out previous great white college players who could shoot that failed in the nba is probably an inclination that you have become numb to stereotypes regarding basketball players.

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    Kyrie reminds me a lot of Isiah Thomas. He has a lot of different gears, and knows how and when to use them. He's not quite as fast as wall or quite as athletic as Rose, but he's got a higher basketball IQ than both of them combined. I'd take him #1 in a heartbeat over Williams.
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    Can we maybe keep the "race" discussion out of this thread? Not useful.

    C'mon, guys.

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    How come it's ok to stereotype white Euros, yet it's terrible to stereotype white Americans?

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    Nobody sterotypes Euros. They stereotype European basketball. It isn't a race thing, it's American basketball vs. European basketball. Few people here trust the European system of developing players, big men especially.

    Foreign players who come here to play college ball on their way to the NBA generally don't get the soft label.

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    1.00, 1.12, 1.50 a/t davidson
    1.49, 1.59, 1.71, 1.22 a/t at byu

    not sure what a/t numbers you are looking at. the point was a cumulative look at these players' college careers. jimmer averaged more assists prior to curry's last year as well.
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    Personally, I don't like Jimmers game.

    However, I found the stats you posted very surprising. I wouldn't have thought that at all.

    Although I don't like his game, based on his stats you make a good argument for at least considering him.

    Don't forget, Curry was forced to play the 1, and he has the advantage of 2 guys that will help rack up the assists in Monta and David Lee.

    I just don't think Jimmer fits with our needs. Not a great driver, not a good defender...he would be a perfect role player like Korver. Bring him off the bench 10-18 min a game, let him take 5-10 shots, if he gets hot he wins you a few games. But, I don't know if that kind of player is worth a 15 pick.

    Easy not to have as many turnovers when you just dribble to half court and then shoot it, lol j/p. He had alot of drives to the hoop too...

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    So, Serge Ibaka or Biyombo have also been stereotyped as softies who shoot too much? Since they also come from Euroball.

    Anyway, don't want to start a serious discussion on this. We aren't bothered by it as much as you guys on the other size of the ocean. We can stand racial or ethnic jokes, as long as there are no more genocides every 20 years in Europe.

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    Biyombo has played in Europe for what, 10 minutes?

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