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    Picking 15th. I think we should go for a big that can block shots. I like Tristan Thompson fron Texas.
    Here we come lottery?

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    Package it with Posey's expiring or another redundant position to take on a higher salaried player. That's option A and B for me.

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    Anyone available at 15 that has star potential, even if it's a reach ?

    I'm feeling lucky!
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    Package it with Posey's expiring or another redundant position to take on a higher salaried player. That's option A and B for me.
    Sounds great, but I think you might be overvaluing the 15th pick.

    As far as prospects go, I like Kenneth Faried. He plays like a slightly smaller Ben Wallace. In a draft that is short on shot blocking, board crashing, physical low post defenders, he fits that mold perfectly.

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    Sounds great, but I think you might be overvaluing the 15th pick.

    As far as prospects go, I like Kenneth Faried. He plays like a slightly smaller Ben Wallace. In a draft that is short on shot blocking, board crashing, physical low post defenders, he fits that mold perfectly.
    He might rise up the draft board ahead of our pick. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened, anyway.

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    Here's our luck, Charlotte or Milwaukee wins the lottery. Where the last 5 years we've been. That would just be awesome.
    Here we come lottery?

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    use the pick as trade bait if we can.

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    Trade the pick or trade up for Brandon Knight.

    I think we'll address our big man needs through a trade or free agency with a young veteran.

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    Here's our luck, Charlotte or Milwaukee wins the lottery. Where the last 5 years we've been. That would just be awesome.
    Who cares? This is a weak draft and we are better for having played in the playoffs. New Jersey winning would be a bigger problem.

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    Here's our luck, Charlotte or Milwaukee wins the lottery. Where the last 5 years we've been. That would just be awesome.
    They can have it, I'll take what we had.

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    i'm willing to deal it. but because there's hardly any star power in this draft, i'd go on the safe side with this pick if we keep it. my preferable options are in this order...

    1- jimmer
    2- johnson
    3- faried
    4- singleton
    5- leonard

    each of these players brings a certain quality to an nba team. the rest of their game may have some question marks, but these qualities will translate. since this is such a horrible draft on upside, i'd rather draft the sure thing. do we want 3pt shooting? mid range shooting? post defense? rebounding? perimeter defense? these guys bring that.

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    use the pick as trade bait if we can.
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    Trade the pick or take Jimmer.

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    The Jimmer Phenomenon: Steve Alford, Damon Bailey, J.J. Redick, and Adam Morrison all in one.
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    The Jimmer Phenomenon: Steve Alford, Damon Bailey, J.J. Redick, and Adam Morrison all in one.
    funny how you named only white players when in reality, jimmer is much closer to a steph curry than any of the players you listed...

    also for every hyped white shooter that happened to not have a successful nba career, i can name you a mark price or scott skiles or rex chapman or kyle korver
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    jimmer is much closer to a steph curry than any of the players you listed.
    I needed to start my day with a laugh after last night's game. Thanks for that.

    Obviously, I don't get the Jimmer infatuation. The comparison to Alford is unfair to Alford. Just because you can shoot a half-court pull-up jumper doesn't mean you should. Jimmer's shot selection is horrible, and he pretty much ignores his teammates. The speed and athleticism of the NBA game will negate any of his perceived strengths as a scorer.

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    Jimmer looked slow as molasses to me. Very dubious as to whether he can make the transition, IMO.
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    The pick will be traded. It was almost traded for Mayo at the deadline. It will be traded before or on draft night

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    The pick will be traded. It was almost traded for Mayo at the deadline. It will be traded before or on draft night
    Are you sure anyone will be very interested this time?
    Half of first rounders went back to school. And it was already a weak draft. If you are a GM, do you even want to have a no.15 pick this year? You basically draft a 2nd rounder at that spot, and pay him guaranteed 2-3 mil. Would you even trade a couple of future 2nd round picks for our 15th pick? Unless there's someone like Jimmer or a Euro that you really really like, I think you don't bother trading for that pick.
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    The Jimmer Phenomenon: Steve Alford, Damon Bailey, J.J. Redick, and Adam Morrison all in one.
    I wouldn't include Reddick on that list. He actually means something to his team.

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    I needed to start my day with a laugh after last night's game. Thanks for that.

    Obviously, I don't get the Jimmer infatuation. The comparison to Alford is unfair to Alford. Just because you can shoot a half-court pull-up jumper doesn't mean you should. Jimmer's shot selection is horrible, and he pretty much ignores his teammates. The speed and athleticism of the NBA game will negate any of his perceived strengths as a scorer.
    SEASON MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
    2006-2007 30.9 21.5 4.6 2.8 2.8 1.00 1.8 .2 2.6 .463 .855 .408 1.40
    2007-2008 33.1 25.9 4.6 2.9 2.6 1.12 2.0 .4 2.4 .483 .894 .439 1.42
    2008-2009 33.7 28.6 4.4 5.6 3.7 1.50 2.5 .2 2.4 .454 .876 .387 1.42

    SEASON MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
    2007-2008 18.5 7.0 1.1 1.7 1.2 1.49 .8 .1 1.3 .407 .854 .336 1.20
    2008-2009 33.0 16.2 3.0 4.1 2.6 1.59 1.5 .1 1.3 .480 .847 .382 1.40
    2009-2010 31.1 22.1 3.1 4.7 2.7 1.71 1.2 .1 1.1 .458 .892 .440 1.53
    2010-2011 35.8 28.9 3.4 4.3 3.5 1.22 1.3 .0 1.3 .452 .894 .396 1.40

    pretty much identical numbers across the board with the slightest of advantages going to player #2 from a pure statistical perspective. player #1 is steph curry. player #2 is jimmer fredette. so while you question his shot selection, jimmer is still a 40% 3pt shooter. while you question is ability to share, he still posts better assists and a/t numbers than curry at davidson. and as for the style of play between the two, they were near identicals in college. curry maybe has a small advantage in athleticism. jimmer an advantage in lift on his jumper and body control. how you can laugh at a comparison between the two is laughable in itself.

    you must also understand the lack of help jimmer had at byu being the reason he was forced to take so many shots, again that he hit at a very efficient clip. also realize that byu was a top 10 program the last two years jimmer was there. and why anyone would compare an off-the-ball player in steve alford to byu's primary ball handler i have no idea.
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    Yes, JJ Redick is better than Alford, Bailey and Morrison combined.

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    he still posts better assists and a/t numbers than curry at davidson
    Are we looking at the same numbers? By the time he left Davidson, Curry had evolved into a nearly six assists-per-game player, a progression that has continued into the pros and has never been matched by Jimmer. And on an anecdotal level, when Curry's team is trailing in a game I'm guessing his first inclination isn't to chuck up a 30-footer when none of his teammates are under the basket.

    Jimmer has skills and can be a human highlight reel. But in the context of close games when every possession counts, he clamors for the spotlight and makes bad decisions that hurt his team.

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    I would take jimmerat15
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