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    I have been saying all along that Granger is a great player, but he is not a leader that you build a team around. He has a great shot, but zero intangibles.

    Far too many times this year, I've watched the Pacers all stand around at the end of the game while Granger puts of a ****ty 3 pointer or 19 foot jumper that rims out.

    hibbert, hansbrough, and collison are who the Pacers need to build around, not Granger

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    go back and watch with 17 seconds left, tied game, everyone knows that Rose is going to drive and try to draw a foul, Grager actually STEPS OUT OF THE WAY right before Rose puts his layup in. Take a charge, steal the ball, try to block it !!!!! Anything but step out of the way. All the "little things" that leaders and great players do, he does none of them.

    I've been saying this since week 2 of the season.

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    Default Re: Still think Granger is not our answer

    Nobody said he was the answer, maybe a few homers but pretty much everybody agrees that he is not Batman.

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    Default Re: Still think Granger is not our answer

    Were you saying this after he hit four straight shots to single-handedly keep us in the game?

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    Oh come on.
    If he gets closer there's contact = a foul = "OMG GRANGER RUINED THE GAME FOR US"
    If he gets too close, Deng gets an open three = "OMG GRANGER DOESNT PLAY DEFENSE"
    The game was close BECAUSE of Granger and the way he played in the 4th. He was our best player last night, by far.
    Granger isn't the leader, Vogel said DC is. there's nothing wrong with that.

    Looks like Danny is the new scapegoat. The new JOB. The only player who consistently played well in the series so far is to blame for our losses.
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    Default Re: Still think Granger is not our answer

    Danny granger is Robin being asked to play both Batman and Robin.

    I disliked a few of his shots in transition, but he played a damned good game.

    The Pacers did not lose because of Danny Granger.

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    The stupid threads are just rolling in right now.
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    Don't blame granger for being who he is. We need to get another player to compliment him, that specializes in attacking the basket.

    Danny would be an absolutely elite second option imo. He's playing really well as a jumpshooter facing double teams, he'd absolutely roast teams if he were able to play off another player.

    Don't blame the guy that singlehandedly kept us in the game with his clutch scoring.

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    What's that? Granger attempting to come over on help defense and attempting to block the shot? Say it isn't so, because that would make this thread completely pointless.
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    Think of Granger as a Reggie at SF. Dude's good, but won't succeed without solid play from other positions. We needed some offensive production from C, PF, or SG last night.
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    this series has made me think better of Granger, not worse

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    Oh come on.
    If he gets closer there's contact = a foul = "OMG GRANGER RUINED THE GAME FOR US"
    If he gets too close, Deng gets an open three = "OMG GRANGER DOESNT PLAY DEFENSE"
    The game was close BECAUSE of Granger and the way he played in the 4th. He was our best player last night, by far.
    Granger isn't the leader, Vogel said DC is. there's nothing wrong with that.

    Looks like Danny is the new scapegoat. The new JOB. The only player who consistently played well in the series so far is to blame for our losses.
    I'd absolutely take my chances with either Rose at the free throw line, or an exhausted Deng taking an open three, rather than Rose being allowed an easy lay-up.

    But maybe that's just me.

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    The answer is someone else stepping up and giving danny some damn help. He almost won the game for us with Jones being our second leading scorer at 13 points. He's been the only pacer that has consistantly raised his level overall for the playoffs (other than george). Hans and DC showed flashes, but we need that consistant 1A or even second option. If we had that we wouldn't be down 3-0.

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    The answer is someone else stepping up and giving danny some damn help. He almost won the game for us with Jones being our second leading scorer at 13 points. He's been the only pacer that has consistantly raised his level overall for the playoffs (other than george). Hans and DC showed flashes, but we need that consistant 1A or even second option. If we had that we wouldn't be down 3-0.
    He also got outplayed by Deng. Of course, that may not be a bad thing to say condsidering Deng looked all-world last night.

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    Who's sick of this thread being made? And this is the worst time to do it because he's stepped up and produced more consistently than everyone on the team, especially the players you said we should build around. lol.

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    He also got outplayed by Deng. Of course, that may not be a bad thing to say condsidering Deng looked all-world last night.
    Deng had a good game, but danny stepped it up in the clutch, hitting big jumper after big jumper and has been the better player than deng over the course of the series, despite getting double and triple teamed while deng has gotten bunny looks off of the help given towards rose.

    Danny has been far more impressive than deng over these three games, and if just one other pacers could step up even a bit to give some offensive help than danny would be even better.

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    I'd absolutely take my chances with either Rose at the free throw line, or an exhausted Deng taking an open three, rather than Rose being allowed an easy lay-up.

    But maybe that's just me.
    I think he had a pretty tough layup.
    He makes it look easy, and I still think sending him to the line gives him a better chance of getting points (maybe an and one, who knows)
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    The one and only thing that I will fault him for, for this game, is the last shot he took at the end of the game. The one with people draped all over him and the rest of the bulls packed into the lane. If you will look off to the left side you will see MJD camped out on the three point line, all alone, wide open.
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    He didn't lose the game for us by any means, but he's not the long term answer at SF if we ever want to get past the first round.
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    Were you saying this after he hit four straight shots to single-handedly keep us in the game?

    I was happy, but at the same time my reaction was it's about time. Granger will never be confused for a player who can take over a game and and be clutch. Granger is what Granger is very 1 dimensional, he's a 20 point scorer, not a takeover the game type player. Never has been never will be.

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    He didn't lose the game for us by any means, but he's not the long term answer at SF if we ever want to get past the first round.
    Wtf?

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    He's not a great one on one scorer, and those are the types of guys that tend to succeed in late game possessions. There's nothing wrong with being a really good #2 scoring option in this league, as there are very few guys that are true #1's. Be happy with what we have, but could we use a #1 guy? Yeah, absolutely.

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    He didn't lose the game for us by any means, but he's not the long term answer at SF if we ever want to get past the first round.
    HUH?!?!?!


    With a legit number 1 Danny will be a huge part of any playoff success we have.

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    He's not a great one on one scorer, and those are the types of guys that tend to succeed in late game possessions. There's nothing wrong with being a really good #2 scoring option in this league, as there are very few guys that are true #1's. Be happy with what we have, but could we use a #1 guy? Yeah, absolutely.
    True, but who wouldnt?

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    The one and only thing that I will fault him for, for this game, is the last shot he took at the end of the game. The one with people draped all over him and the rest of the bulls packed into the lane. If you will look off to the left side you will see MJD camped out on the three point line, all alone, wide open.
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