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    Default PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6390975

    I dont know how I missed this. Its just nice to hear us getting some spotlight and recognition. Nice video, and sorry if its been discussed already.

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    This was discussed in another thread, but it was based upon an ESPN article that Wilbon wrote. have no idea which thread it is in. The article is probably still available on ESPN.com

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    As Unclebuck said, it's already been discussed.

    It's also not true.
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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    I wouldn't say that. I agree with Wilbon --- right now, they are playing better than those two teams. Whether or not they have a better roster... they are playing better ball. Except in the final 2 minutes.
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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    I think the Pacers have played better to this point than the magic and the hawks. Of course Magic were terrible in game #1. Regardless it is only through 3 games

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    As far as the way the Magic and Hawks are playing so far, we're definitely competing more and playing better.

    I feel like the Bulls/Pacers series has been a lot more exciting than the Magic/Hawks.

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    considering the amount of times we've choked against the Hawks...I guess we should hope for the Magic in the next round?

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    What he wrote in his article was that the Pacers had a better roster than the Magic, which is patently false.

    Even if you think we're equal 2-15, which is a stretch, the difference between Granger and Dwight is about as large as the Grand Canyon.

    Have we played better than them the last two games? Sure. Are we a better team. Not by a mile.
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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    *Throws out ridiculous rumor of Dwight Howard joining the Pacers in the offseason*

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    *Throws out ridiculous rumor of Dwight Howard joining the Pacers in the offseason*
    Unnamed sources are saying Dwight Howard will demand a trade to the Pacers this offseason.
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    As Unclebuck said, it's already been discussed.

    It's also not true.
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    What he wrote in his article was that the Pacers had a better roster than the Magic, which is patently false.

    Even if you think we're equal 2-15, which is a stretch, the difference between Granger and Dwight is about as large as the Grand Canyon.

    Have we played better than them the last two games? Sure. Are we a better team. Not by a mile.
    i'd say the Pacers do have a more well-rounded roster actually. Hawks, not so much.

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    Completely off-topic, but anyone ever notice is spelled wrong, lol...
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    i'd say the Pacers do have a more well-rounded roster actually. Hawks, not so much.
    Take away Horford, Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and you can make that case. However those 3 guys are better than any Pacer is right now.

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    Completely off-topic, but anyone ever notice is spelled wrong, lol...
    im literally

    i noticed that too but didnt want to say anything because i thought it was just me
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    Take away Horford, Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and you can make that case. However those 3 guys are better than any Pacer is right now.
    Crawford might also be better.

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    Crawford might also be better.
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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

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    Take away Horford, Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and you can make that case. However those 3 guys are better than any Pacer is right now.
    Are you serious?

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    I would just like to add that Tony Kornheiser said we had 35 wins when we really had 37. COME ON TONY! That is all

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    What he wrote in his article was that the Pacers had a better roster than the Magic, which is patently false.

    Even if you think we're equal 2-15, which is a stretch, the difference between Granger and Dwight is about as large as the Grand Canyon.

    Have we played better than them the last two games? Sure. Are we a better team. Not by a mile.
    The Magics roster outside of Howard is an embarrassment. They suck.

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    Take away Horford, Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and you can make that case. However those 3 guys are better than any Pacer is right now.
    That's why the Hawks are so good right?

    Danny Granger is literally better than Joe Johnson in nearly every facet of the game. He shoots, better, he scores better, he defends better, he rebounds better... He's not as good of a passer as Joe, but other than he's just a better player.

    Joe Johnson has a much prettier game, so people assume he's better. But I've never cared for his game. He's just a chucker. That Hawks team would be much much better if those 3 players are all as good as everyone this board says they are.

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    That's why the Hawks are so good right?

    Danny Granger is literally better than Joe Johnson in nearly every facet of the game. He shoots, better, he scores better, he defends better, he rebounds better... He's not as good of a passer as Joe, but other than he's just a better player.

    Joe Johnson has a much prettier game, so people assume he's better. But I've never cared for his game. He's just a chucker. That Hawks team would be much much better if those 3 players are all as good as everyone this board says they are.

    Joe Johnson is a much better ball handler and passer. He is much better at creating his own shot than Danny Granger. Overall he is the superior player.

    Granger is only superior to Johnson as an outside shooter.

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    That's why the Hawks are so good right?

    Danny Granger is literally better than Joe Johnson in nearly every facet of the game. He shoots, better, he scores better, he defends better, he rebounds better... He's not as good of a passer as Joe, but other than he's just a better player.

    Joe Johnson has a much prettier game, so people assume he's better. But I've never cared for his game. He's just a chucker. That Hawks team would be much much better if those 3 players are all as good as everyone this board says they are.
    Yeah, none of those players are any better than Granger. If directly compared to their position Horford and Smith may be better, but not if compared to Granger.

    Also there is a difference between having a better roster and a better team. You can have a bunch of superstars, but if you play better as a team you will beat them more times than not. See US national team for 2000 to 2008, all the talent in the world, but small countries with people no one has heard of were able to beat them.
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    Joe Johnson is a much better ball handler and passer. He is much better at creating his own shot than Danny Granger. Overall he is the superior player.

    Granger is only superior to Johnson as an outside shooter.
    Exactly my point. Because his game is so much prettier, he's a better creator, the natural assumption is that he's a better player. Except he's not.

    Danny is clearly a better defender, a MUCH more efficient scorer, a higher volume scorer resulting him being a much more valuable player.

    But you'd be right if we judged a player on pure style points, Joe Johnson would be the better player.

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    Default Re: PTI Michael Wilborn says Pacers are a better team than Magic/Hawks

    If Joe Johnson lived up too his potential, got to the line, shot better percentage shots, he would be better. Unfortunately he doesn't do that. All he does is repeatedly chuck up bad shots, while avoiding the foul line at all costs.

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