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    What a triumvirate: Violet Palmer, Joey Crawford, and Bennett Salvatore.

    Could it ever be worse than that?

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    It showed too. I thought that I was going to die.

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    i loved it when vogel got a technical. enough was enough. our guy was mugged on that play.

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    i loved it when vogel got a technical. enough was enough. our guy was mugged on that play.
    If I remember rightly, they called Collison for traveling.

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    No, it could not get any worse.

    I hope it's not the same for the whole series.

    I mean seriously, who the hell let Violet Palmer officiate an NBA playoff game? And Joey should've been gone many many MANY years ago.
    Stop quoting people I have on ignore!

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    didn't think the officiating was all that bad. i like crawford. not a big fan of Bennett Salvatore or Violet Palmer, but i've seen both of them suck much worse. i basically like the way they called the game. it was physical, they let the player's play.

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    The referees did an Ok job today, Rose was going to get more fouls because the guy attacks the basket non stop, the only guy that does that on the Pacers is Tyler and he didn't do that as much today(his shot was falling) we actually got some calls at the end and didn't hit the free trows.

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    Well, it could be worse. Oh, wait.. It couldn't.

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    Considering the usual superstar bias, I actually thought the refs called a decent game.

    Now I could write a thesis on how disguisting the whole "superstar player = superstar call" attitude is, and the fact the NBA continues to deny this exists is comical, but that is a story for another day.

    As for the OP, my initial reaction when I heard the refs announced was and along with

    That said, Violet was not all that bad. I truly hate Joey, and that is sad because I think he is a decent ref when he is trying to be the center of attention.

    More to the point, I think the refs were far from perfect, but the Bulls won (and Pacers lost) this game more then the refs lost us this game. If I had to blame one thing alone I would say lack of playoff experience, and there is only one way to fix that.....

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    If I remember rightly, they called Collison for traveling.
    thats right. but DC was bumped to cause the travel.

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    didn't think the officiating was all that bad. i like crawford. not a big fan of Bennett Salvatore or Violet Palmer, but i've seen both of them suck much worse. i basically like the way they called the game. it was physical, they let the player's play.
    Except for when that player was in between Rose and the basket.

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    Considering the usual superstar bias, I actually thought the refs called a decent game.

    Now I could write a thesis on how disguisting the whole "superstar player = superstar call" attitude is, and the fact the NBA continues to deny this exists is comical, but that is a story for another day.

    As for the OP, my initial reaction when I heard the refs announced was and along with

    That said, Violet was not all that bad. I truly hate Joey, and that is sad because I think he is a decent ref when he is trying to be the center of attention.

    More to the point, I think the refs were far from perfect, but the Bulls won (and Pacers lost) this game more then the refs lost us this game. If I had to blame one thing alone I would say lack of playoff experience, and there is only one way to fix that.....
    It's hard to fix 21 FTs awarded to 1 player.
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    Yes the bulls got more calls.

    The Pacers also left a lot of points at the line.

    Sorry, I just cannot say the refs lost us this game.

    On the bright side, with Bill Simmons pointing this out via his tweeter, I bet it at least gets some national play. We will see if that mater for game two.....

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    Do the referee crews switch from game to game? City to city? Any way to know who we've got next game?

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    Do the referee crews switch from game to game? City to city? Any way to know who we've got next game?
    They have a rotation and rarely work back to back games (maybe they never do)

    Not sure if it switches city to city

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    Collison was absolutely hammered at the end of the game too, could have turned a 3 point lead into a five point lead..instead we had DRose going the other way on a fast break..

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    Honestly, does it really matter who officiates? I shook my head when I saw who they assigned us, but then I tried thinking of who I would rather have and I couldn't do it. While you could argue some refs are worse than others, ultimately they're all pretty bad. You just gotta live with it.

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    Collison was absolutely hammered at the end of the game too, could have turned a 3 point lead into a five point lead..instead we had DRose going the other way on a fast break..
    Spot on! That non-call was extremely pivotal. It was highway robbery. A totally obvious call missed by our elite crew of *seasoned* NBA officials. Collison was under the basket, holding the ball about chest high and starting to take the ball up for a shot. He was then obviously hacked across both arms causing him to lose the ball and the Bulls to start their fast break. The entire world saw it and nothing was called.

    Our troika of Palmer, Crawford, and Salvatore saw nothing. They saw everything that happened to Derrick Rose and sometimes saw things that didn't happen to him.
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    Spot on! That non-call was extremely pivotal. It was highway robbery. A totally obvious call missed by our elite crew of *seasoned* NBA officials.

    Our troika of Palmer, Crawford, and Salvatore
    The refs know who is supposed to win. They aren't "elite" because of play calling. The one ref that was crooked wasn't even obviously considered any worse than the others. It's not wrestling but it's not NFL either.

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    Rose got alot of calls, how about those 2 plays in the 4th where Hibbert jump straight up and Rose jumped into him. Thats not a foul. How about the the play where Mike D. stood straight up and DRose just plows over his shoulder for the And-1. He probably had at least 3-4 plays that were legitimate charges that he got away with. Like said in the game thread. The refs make the superstars. I hate it when great players are bailed out by the refs.

    Rose has this move that almost always guarantees a whistle, he will drive and hop step and jump off at angle toward the defender and draw contact on their shoulders or hips, and get the whistle every time even the though the defender is standing in perfect defensive position to take a charge.
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    At least the game was called consistently, even if that "consistency" was at a disadvantage to the Pacers.

    While I will agree that those are about the worst three refs you could put together (especially Violet -- just miserable), the main villain is the ridiculous perimeter-oriented rules of today. It's pretty obvious the "opening up" of the game was just a cheap ploy to allow all-star guards (what the common fan pays to see) pump up their own numbers and sell tickets.

    I'd kill to go back to the early 2000's -- let alone the 90's!

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    It doesn't matter who the officials are. See the Philly/Miami game FT attempts.

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    Could it ever be worse than that?



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    I thought the refs were pretty good.

    But even if I didn't. I think complaining about the refs is what the losers do

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    I'm not a fan of those refs, but they were much more fair today than in the past.

    We got our calls and the Bulls got theirs.

    Some could go either way for both sides, but overall they called the game better in the playoffs.

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