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    Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league, it's not even that close in my mind, and the romanticizing of Rose by the entire world has reached just crazy levels. I really just don't get it, Rose is barely a top 10 player in the NBA and yet somehow he's the best and runaway MVP? Guy is clearly great, but he's no CP3. Could you imagine how bad that Hornets team would be without Paul?

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    He doesn't bring it in the regular season like he used to.

    I'm not sure if he's the best PG anymore, but he remains the best pure passer.

    That said, Rose deserves the MVP for how hard he played all season. Paul simply did not bring everything Rose did to the table every night, nor did anyone else. This is about production and wins, not raw talent.
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    Still, Paul's the runaway starter for Team USA at point guard in 2012 IMO assuming he's healthy.

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    I really just don't get it, Rose is barely a top 10 player in the NBA and yet somehow he's the best and runaway MVP? Guy is clearly great, but he's no CP3. Could you imagine how bad that Hornets team would be without Paul?

    Rose is the most unstoppable player in the NBA right now. His team won 62 games more than any team in the NBA and his supporting cast is only marginally better than the Hornets, so it is obvious why Rose is the clear MVP

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    Rose and Paul are two different types of PGs. Paul is your more traditional PG, but can still light it up when needed. Rose is a scoring PG who has the passing skills and ability to run the offense. I think Paul is the better point guard in the truest sense of what a point guard traditionally is.

    Is he the better player? I'm not sure about that. Rose certainly deserves MVP this year. People are just doubting how good he is, which I don't understand. Anyone who watched the first playoff game saw how great this kid is.

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    I try to rationalize Rose not being that good because I don't want him to be. If Chicago didn't get so dang lucky to pick him I wouldn't be nearly as mad about it. Chicago is in our division and I really despise most of their "fans" to an unhealthy level.

    But then I remember Rose plays for USA, I realize he is that good, and I feel a lot better.

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    Most experts and those who watch him more a lot believe Paul has not fully regained his quickness since the knee injury. he doesn't seem as explosive as he was 3 or 4 years ago. But it was fun to watch him yesterday.

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    CP3 is still a top 10 player in the league, but if you say you'd take him over Rose you're lying.

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    He's scared of getting hurt again, so he doesn't take as much contract as he used to. He showed in the playoffs that he's still got the ability to be the 2008 Chris Paul that made the rest of the NBA look like pylons.

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    CP3 is still a top 10 player in the league, but if you say you'd take him over Rose you're lying.
    I'll take him over Rose and never look back, I know that CP3 has been injured all year long but a point guard like him has a longer career than a guy like Rose that gets punish a lot.

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    I'll take him over Rose and never look back, I know that CP3 has been injured all year long but a point guard like him has a longer career than a guy like Rose that gets punish a lot.
    I was thinking along the same lines. Rose RELIES on being faster and stronger than anyone else at his position. Once he hits 30, I don't think he will be nearly as dominant.

    Paul is a much much better shooter, passer, and at least as good or better leader. Those things usually stand the test of time.

    That being said, I think Rose wins a ring before CP3 unless Paul makes another super team somewhere with Dwight (Indiana please???)

    This whole discussion is debatable in my opinion though.

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    CP3 is still a top 10 player in the league, but if you say you'd take him over Rose you're lying.
    I would take him over Rose. I think it is easier to pair CP3 with other players. I think CP3 will be the starting PG for Team USA for that reason as well. He doesn't need to score to be effective. Rose is most effective when he is scoring because then he can create for others. CP3 is a better creator and I like that at the PG position

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    Pau Gasol is sooo weak. Landry is out-muscling him and putting up a good fight against Bynum when he has to guard him.

    I think playing Kobe on CP3 isn't working out so well for the Lakers. Kobe can't get any rhythm on offense and has to spend every possession chasing him all over the court on D.

    Lakers still winning mainly due to other players besides Kobe/Pau.

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    I wish we still had Jarrett Jack. He'd be a perfect complement to DC.

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    Landry's playing tough.

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    Chris Paul is just ridiculous.

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    CP just did Kobe BAD. Ankle breaker.

    And then the refs got jealous and gave him a T.

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    Default Re: 2011 NBA Playoffs: (2) Los Angeles vs. (7) New Orleans

    If Belinelli could hit a three point shot, Hornets would be up double digits.

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    CP is a stud.

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    I remember when Jarrett Jack did that for the Pacers for a short while.

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    Jarret Jack closing out games for the Hornets to tie that series up... .why did we let that guy go again?
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    Good game Hornets are going 2-2 againts the Lakers, WOW.
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    I'll say it again, Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league and it isn't very close.

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    Jarret Jack closing out games for the Hornets to tie that series up... .why did we let that guy go again?
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