He's up to #8 in DraftExpress Mock Draft now.
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im sure it's raw cause he sure isnt dumb.
A half-dozen NBA scouts and executives told me they believed Biyombo was older than his listed age of 18, based not only on his mature body but also his leadership skills, as he led the Internationals through their pre-practice stretches and was their most vocal and energetic player. Questions of his age won't necessarily damage his stock in the draft, as his maturity will be viewed as strength. He is forecasted as a first-round pick with a chance to sneak into the lottery. SI.com
he not only has size, but did you watch him against the most talented high school players the other ngiht? the davis guy going to ky is going to be number 1 pick in 2012 and he held is own against all those.... he not only has size but he can play. I seen him shoot two free throws and make them with ease. he's got it...
I also thought alot of basketball exspecially the nba it's about building for the future also. this guy has the talent there is to many scouts with high praise for him. he will certainly make an NBA player..
Bismack Biyombo (12 pt, 11 reb, 10 blk)
The undeniable star of the show, Biyombo was literally a man among boys relative to the U.S. Team. There has been a ton of buzz about him the past week in NBA Draft circles, and he lived up to it by having the first triple-double in Nike Hoop Summit history. He’s only 6’9”, but has a freakish 7’7” wingspan to supplement his already muscular frame and explosive athleticism.
He is a physical banger in the post who absolutely overwhelmed the U.S. post players around the basket and was a physical mismatch, even against Davis and Christmas. He does an excellent job positioning himself in the post and his motor is going throughout the entire game.
With the amount of shots he turns away on defense, you don't want to say they were "blocked," but rather "Bismacked!" Still an incredibly raw talent with almost zero post game, and was clearly very uncomfortable putting the ball on the floor.
Biyombo was asked after the game if he was leaning toward declaring for the 2011 NBA Draft and said it was something he and his agent would talk about. After his performance tonight, it’s hard to see him not declare, as he should be a late lottery to mid-first rounder carrying this momentum into it.
Biyombo has been compared to Serge Ibaka (who I also saw play in this same event in 2008) in terms of style and physical makeup, but Ibaka did not make nearly the splash that Biyombo did this year
With Bismarck Biyombo having an impressive (and impressive measurements. 7-7 wingspan!) Nike Hoops Summit week. How high could he potentially go if he enters the draft? He's the HOT name among NBA scouts and execs right now. When we first wrote about him in early March, the thought was that NBA teams would be looking at him for next year. At the time only a handful of scouts have seen him. But over the last month, as more scouts went to see him play, he's been rising on their boards. Now that he's at the Hoop Summit, measured bigger than expected and has been dominating in practices ... he's a legit prospect this year. Think the next Serge Ibaka. ESPN.com
Last edited by DAVIDLOCKHART40; 04-11-2011 at 02:42 PM.
Now it seems like Biyombo or nothing for me with this pick.
If he's there at 15, I'll take him, but if he's taken before we select, then try and trade the pick or draft for another team then trade the rights.
Really, this kid has only been playing basketball for 4 years. Nobody knows exactly what his future holds.
But looking at him from Joe's perspective, he's the ideal heir to Ben Wallace as the team's resident enforcer, and no GM in the NBA loves wingspan more than Joe.
2-3 years down the line, Bismack/Monroe could potentially be a hell of a frontcourt. Not going to lie. Insanely active on the boards.
Perry Jones is staying in school. Reports are that Harrison Barnes will too. This kid's gonna wind up in the top 5 of this craptastic draft, watch.
So far I've only seen one person mention the best aspect of his game that I saw on the video. His hands are fan-friggin-tastic. I went looking for more vids of him and every one of them shows this. He catches EVERY pass that makes it into his zip code no matter how crappy it is.
and i have a friend,daddy,cousin who played against him dont count... seriously you dislike him and you know it.. But, he is going to be an hell of a player..if he is dumb with what i seen in him, then id still draft him being dumb.
you would listen to someone that played against him? well who is you're friend? maybe we would like to draft him. or is maybe you're friend just got schooled and he said yeah man he dumb. So friend, tell us who you're friend is? Id like to see his stats,ect. Im just going by basketball scouts,ect, thats all im doing to come to the conclusion i have made. Ans surely they know talent.
Last edited by DAVIDLOCKHART40; 04-12-2011 at 02:31 PM.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
Those 4 years include everything - youth leagues in Africa, Spain, etc. Think HS career.
He's been in ACB (Spanish league) for only a couple months. His real pro experience is very minimal in comparison with other 18 year olds from European leagues in recent years. Rubio, Valanciunas, etc.
I wouldn't build any huge conclusions for or against Biyombo based on his pro experience.
Biyombo has played 14 games in ACB for a very mediocre team, and got bench minutes. It's incomparable to Rubio's experience when he was drafted, or Valanciunas, even Kanter.
Don't know if he's a bust or not, just saying it's ridiculous to think that much of a few months in ACB.
There's a reason why he suddenly got 'discovered' in the last couple months.
It's because he was burried on the youth team for years, while other prodigees of his age were getting ACB, Italian Serie A or even Euroleague experience.
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Secondly, Darko's a starting center in the NBA and putting together a decent little career. I understand he's not met his lofty expectations, but I think anyone should be happy drafting a starter-caliber player, since most draft picks are out of the league in a year or two. Darko's a flop not because he's THAT awful, but because he happened to be drafted in one of the most talented drafts in a long time.
The ability to play at Europe's top levels is indicative of SOMETHING. It's no guarantee, but it's analogous to playing top flight NCAA, for Kansas or Carolina or something like that.
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Biyombo has great size and potential, but it is very difficult making that translate from Europe to the NBA. Serge Ibaka becoming a good player is more of an anomaly than Darko being a bust when we look at big men who played in Europe and then played in the NBA.
I wont repeat what ilive said about Darko busting, since i completely agree.
I don't know if Biyombo busts or not, I'm sure however that any reasonable scout won't take those 14 ACB games very seriously these days. Biyombo is where he is mostly due to impressive measurements and dominating the predraft.
Last edited by ballism; 04-13-2011 at 06:14 AM.
I will say this, blocked shots are tangible, and they do translate.
The fact he averages 2 blocks per game overseas in less than half a game is nothing short of phenomenal. The European game does not allow for a lot of blocks.
Also, I disagree about his hype being based solely on his measurements..He is where is he because of what he did in the Hoops Summit game. That's what shot him up the draft chart. 12 blocks against an entire team of (most likely) future NBA players. Fantastic athletes that are the best among their peers at getting shots off in the paint.
Take a look at the guys he's swatting. Austin Rivers is a projected top-5 pick in 2012. James McAdoo is a projected top-5 pick. Marquis Teague is a projected top-20 pick.
These are all kids that will be joining him in the NBA in the next 3 years. These aren't Euroleague lifers.
Last edited by Kstat; 04-13-2011 at 07:33 AM.
that game isn't a pre-draft camp. Most of those kids are going on to college.
Oh, and draftexpress's updated 2011 mock draft has the Pistons drafting Biyombo at #7. Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Last edited by Kstat; 04-13-2011 at 07:36 AM.
Darko can block. Thabeet can block. They are still busts. And it's still 14 ACB games.
If a team drafts Biyombo in top 10 as projected on draftexpress, it will be because of camps and workouts. Not because of some huge rock solid pro experience in Spain - he simply does not have that.
His pro experience is in fact nearly identical to Skita's (13 games in Serie A, a couple years on youth factory team in Slovenia). For a top 10 pick from Europe, he'd be one of the least experienced.
Last edited by ballism; 04-13-2011 at 08:01 AM.