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    Time might be near for Colts to draft a quarterback
    With Manning entering 14th season, time might be drawing near to find his eventual successor

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    If the time isn't right for the Indianapolis Colts to seriously address a position occupied by a future Hall of Famer, that time is drawing near.

    Team vice chairman Bill Polian conceded earlier this week he "couldn't dismiss" the possibility of looking for a quarterback during the April 28-30 draft.

    That's been the domain of Peyton Manning since the Colts selected him with the first pick of the 1998 draft. He is the NFL's only four-time MVP, an 11-time Pro Bowl selection, was MVP of the team's Super Bowl XLI win over the Chicago Bears and has started all 227 games, including the playoffs, since '98.

    But there's no denying Manning, 35, is closer to the end than the beginning of his record-breaking career. He is entering his 14th season.

    The Colts reportedly put Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick through a private workout Friday in Reno. Earlier this week, coach Jim Caldwell and general manager Chris Polian oversaw a private workout with TCU quarterback Andy Dalton.

    The team has six picks in the draft, including No. 22 overall. Most draft analysts rate Kaepernick and Dalton as second- to fourth-round prospects.

    The only other quarterback on the Colts roster is Curtis Painter, who has served as Manning's backup since being chosen in the sixth round of the 2009 draft.

    "Quarterback's an issue, probably not a front-burner issue, but an issue nonetheless because while Peyton's not at the end of his career, it's approaching faster than it has in the past," Polian said. "I wouldn't rule that out in the right situation."

    The prevailing question is: How soon should the process of acquiring Manning's eventual successor and grooming him begin? "You don't know," Polian said, "but you know it's sometime soon. You begin to think about it."

    So, might the Colts be in the market for a Manning successor or backup in the draft?

    "I don't know that you're going to find his eventual replacement drafting 22nd," Polian said. "And whether or not you would use that choice on a quarterback in an unsettled labor situation, where you don't know what kind of contract that's going to be signed, is another issue.

    "That said, I don't think you can dismiss it."

    The Green Bay Packers faced a similar dilemma in 2005. Brett Favre was 35 and heading into his 15th season. The Packers, unsure how much longer Favre might play, selected Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the draft.

    The grooming process lasted longer than expected. Rodgers appeared in just seven games and attempted only 59 passes in his first three seasons.

    It's assumed Manning will finish his career with the Colts, but his future remains unsettled. His contract expired at the end of the 2010 season and the team used the "exclusive franchise" tag to keep him from hitting the open market. That guarantees Manning a one-year, $23.1 million contract, but the former NFL Players Association contends the ability of teams to use the franchise and transition tags ended when the collective bargaining agreement expired last month.

    Owner Jim Irsay said last month he fully anticipates the franchise tag to remain valid.

    "I have never seen a situation where the tag is in jeopardy," he said while reiterating his commitment to make Manning the highest-paid player in NFL history, surpassing the $18 million-a-year extension the New England Patriots gave quarterback Tom Brady in September.

    At the owners meetings last month, Irsay seemed frustrated a new deal wasn't reached before the lockout. Negotiations between the Colts and agent Tom Condon are not permitted during the ongoing work stoppage.

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    I see the Colts drafting the QB from Alabama Mc Elroy. Kid was a winner in highschool & college. He played huge games at Bama (SEC trumps all college football divisions) scored well on the wonderlic test and should be around after the 3rd round. Nobody is talking about him and Polian pulled a pro bowler in Robert Mathis late.

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    Marcus Vick is still available........

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    I see the Colts drafting the QB from Alabama Mc Elroy. Kid was a winner in highschool & college. He played huge games at Bama (SEC trumps all college football divisions) scored well on the wonderlic test and should be around after the 3rd round. Nobody is talking about him and Polian pulled a pro bowler in Robert Mathis late.
    Nobody is talking about him because he is a mediocre talent. You place him on any other SEC team and he would have lost at least 6 games. Alabama has had the best run game and defense in the SEC during McElroy's entire time at Bama.

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    Nobody is talking about him because he is a mediocre talent. You place him on any other SEC team and he would have lost at least 6 games. Alabama has had the best run game and defense in the SEC during McElroy's entire time at Bama.
    He is just a winner, nothing mediocre about winning. He has won and produced every level he has played. Yes he does have a lot of talent (J.Jones/Ingram/Hanks) but S.E.C is no joke football conference. The kid does not make mistakes. He is clutch. I believe you are a huge Georgia Dogs fan, put him on your roster and you win 2 more games.

    Yeah he may not have 4.3 speed, but neither did Peyton Manning.

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    They should probably try and acquire Brady Quinn.

    Have him back up Peyton for the next few seasons and then hand the QB job over to him.
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    They should probably try and acquire Brady Quinn.

    Have him back up Peyton for the next few seasons and then hand the QB job over to him.
    I don't see the love affair with Quinn. I want no part of a guy who can't beat out Derek Anderson for the team that drafted him, got traded by that team for a backup running back and two late draft picks, and then gets buried behind Orton and Tebow by the team that traded for him. He's had four head coaches and all four of them decided that other QB's were better. When those kinds of things happen it makes me think that it's the player not being good enough rather than not getting a fair shake. I'm not saying he can't turn it around. I'm just saying that the Colts are not the environment for him to try. His perfect situation would be to start fresh with a team that's desperate for a QB. San Francisco, maybe Arizona, possibly Cincy if Palmer does end up breaking out of there.
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    He is just a winner, nothing mediocre about winning. He has won and produced every level he has played. Yes he does have a lot of talent (J.Jones/Ingram/Hanks) but S.E.C is no joke football conference. The kid does not make mistakes. He is clutch. I believe you are a huge Georgia Dogs fan, put him on your roster and you win 2 more games.

    Yeah he may not have 4.3 speed, but neither did Peyton Manning.
    There are a lot of other "Winners" in college football too but how many of them made it in the NFL as well.

    Very few.

    I don't know much about McElroy but picking a QB isn't an exact science either.

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    I just can't believe Peyton is about to enter his 14th season. What if there is no season and the next time he plays, he's 35 and in his 15th? Wow.....

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    I just can't believe Peyton is about to enter his 14th season. What if there is no season and the next time he plays, he's 35 and in his 15th? Wow.....

    Well, if there is no season then the next time he plays it will still be his 14th season

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    Huh....I never made the connection!

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    Another QB the Colts should go out and get to start is Kellen Clemens.
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    He is just a winner, nothing mediocre about winning. He has won and produced every level he has played. Yes he does have a lot of talent (J.Jones/Ingram/Hanks) but S.E.C is no joke football conference. The kid does not make mistakes. He is clutch. I believe you are a huge Georgia Dogs fan, put him on your roster and you win 2 more games.

    Yeah he may not have 4.3 speed, but neither did Peyton Manning.
    You can't possibly be comparing Manning and McElroy coming out of college. Manning was a proven winner and could make every throw in the book. McElroy may be a winner but I don't think he is more a product of a great Alabama team than anything else. I'm not saying McElroy sucks because he did lead Alabama to some big wins but I don't think he'll be more than a backup in the NFL and I certainly wouldn't want my team using a 1st or 2nd round pick on the guy.

    I think guys like Christian Ponder, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, and Ryan Mallett would all be better choices for the Colts if they are targeting a QB. I expect them to draft some defensive players though.
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    You can't possibly be comparing Manning and McElroy coming out of college. Manning was a proven winner and could make every throw in the book. McElroy may be a winner but I don't think he is more a product of a great Alabama team than anything else. I'm not saying McElroy sucks because he did lead Alabama to some big wins but I don't think he'll be more than a backup in the NFL and I certainly wouldn't want my team using a 1st or 2nd round pick on the guy.

    I think guys like Christian Ponder, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, and Ryan Mallett would all be better choices for the Colts if they are targeting a QB. I expect them to draft some defensive players though.
    Greg beat the Gators during his college career. Joke!!! I think you have to compare every QB coming out of college to Peyton. He is the cream of the crop. I do not see a hands down great QB in this draft. Greg Mcelroy is worth a look. He is a winner, academic all american, and hard worker that may just thrive under Manning. I would be more happy taking Greg Mcelroy in the 6th or 7th round then Mallett in the second round for the Colts. I agree we need defense.

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    As much as I think it'd be a great value to get a 2nd round QB this year, I'd rather wait another year or two. I'd hate to make Peyton feel rushed down the road and I still think there's time to add valuable pieces for potential Super Bowl runs in the next 3-5 years.

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    If they're thinking about a qb in the first two rounds and Mallet is still on the board, they would be foolish not to take him.

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    And if there is a good o lineman available in the 1st round, and they pass, like the kid from b.c for instance, I'll be furious with Polian. I have this feeling he will not get a lineman because he's afraid its and admit to failure pick with all the other line man busts in the past 4 years.

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    He's becoming the Matt Millan of drafting offensive lineman, in some ways.

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    The QB that I have heard the Colts drafting was Ricky Stanzi from Iowa. Maybe a 3rd round pick.

    Personally i am fine holding off one more year for a QB but I trust Polian will make a good call on QB when the time comes. OT is a different story though.

    Side note: IS Ryan Mallet the new Jeff George with drug allegations. He seems like a stuck up QB with a big arm.
    Last edited by Gamble1; 04-21-2011 at 11:09 AM.

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