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Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

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The Playoff Tickets Thread

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  • #61
    Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

    I don't think it's set yet, but it seems like the 1st game will be in Chicago this coming Saturday. Someone smarter than me could guess the rest from there probably.

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    • #62
      Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

      If it makes you guys feel better, I'm a Chicago resident and I'll be going to the games in Chicago. If you don't hear from me after next week, assumed that I was killed in a fan-related backlash.

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      • #63
        Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

        Originally posted by CableKC View Post
        So...when will we know the exact dates of the games?

        If I am to ... in any way....plan to go to the games...I need to know when to book the flights.

        Wednesday night after all the eastern conference playoff teams have finished their games. That is the latest we will know.

        The NBA does a great job in getting the information out as soon as they can. So be watching NBATV Wednesday night or at least the pacers broadcast. or really this forum will have the info.

        Keep in mind though games #3 and #4 are going to be Thursday 4/22 - 4/25) - Monday. I realize that is 5 days, but that much we know.

        There will be 3 game 3's Thursday night. 3 game 3's Friday night and then 2 game 3's Saturday. If the pacers happen to play a game #3 on that Saturday then we know game #4 will be Monday night.

        I know you want more than that, but that is all we know

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        • #64
          Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

          Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
          Wednesday night after all the eastern conference playoff teams have finished their games. That is the latest we will know.

          The NBA does a great job in getting the information out as soon as they can. So be watching NBATV Wednesday night or at least the pacers broadcast. or really this forum will have the info.

          Keep in mind though games #3 and #4 are going to be Thursday 4/22 - 4/25) - Monday. I realize that is 5 days, but that much we know.

          There will be 3 game 3's Thursday night. 3 game 3's Friday night and then 2 game 3's Saturday. If the pacers happen to play a game #3 on that Saturday then we know game #4 will be Monday night.

          I know you want more than that, but that is all we know
          Thanks.....I guess for me....being out of state and all....IF I were planning to actually come to Indy to watch the game....then it's harder for me to plan anything in relation to any trip to go see the Pacers play in the Playoffs.

          But after thinking about it....it would be better for me to save the $$$ for next year...or the year after...WHEN AND IF we improve enough where we will be a 2nd round Playoff Team ( a la the Bulls ) as opposed to a "single return to the Playoffs and then back to Lottery-Land" team ( like the Warriors were and the Wizards were a few years back ).
          Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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          • #65
            Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

            OK, we have the schedule for the NHL Blackhawks playoff series and it prety much guarantees the first game of the Pacers vs Bulls series will be Saturday as I figured.

            Blackhawks play at home Sunday night 8:00. Which is 7 PM Chicago time. The early NBA game on that day is set for 12:30 Eastern time which would be 11:30 in Chicago, and the NBA always says they will not start an NBA game before noon local time on Sundays.

            Then consider the Boston Bruins are set to play a home game Saturday at 5:00, so that means the Celtics cannot play Saturday, they will play Sunday.

            So I am positive the first Pacers vs Bulls game will be Saturday.

            So game 2 will either be Monday or Tuesday which puts our series on the earier track and I'm expecting the pacers first home game to probably be Thursday, although certainly Friday is possible, but no way it will be Saturday, so that means game #4 will not be Monday.
            Last edited by Unclebuck; 04-11-2011, 01:36 PM.

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            • #66
              Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

              Excellent detective work, Buck.

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              • #67
                Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                Considering that puts game 4 on Saturday the 23rd, which is where Murphy's Law said it would be, I agree with this analysis.
                BillS

                A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
                Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                • #68
                  Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                  I got my tickets today! Anyone else sitting in section 210 ?

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                  • #69
                    Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                    Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
                    If the pacers happen to play a game #3 on that Saturday then we know Seth will literally lose his s*** and go on a murderous rampage killing someone, something or someplace (if that's possible, it's hard to say at this point).

                    I know you want more than that, but that is all we know
                    Fixed.


                    Originally posted by UB
                    but no way it will be Saturday,
                    I swear to god if you F me on this I'll make you that "someplace", don't think that can't happen.



                    This isn't admissible, right?
                    It's row 5 section 4 which is behind the Pacers bench. I think that gets me a free pass from most Indy juries.

                    Also a person should not be able to buy a seat in that spot this late in the game straight from TM. That's pathetic, no matter how bad the team has been in recent years. If my rep had helped or something then okay, but this is just on the Indy pre-sell window.



                    Anyway I heard the mention of a definite SAT start elsewhere and hoped that they were leaking dates for the known Indy-Chicago pairing. Arghh!
                    Last edited by Naptown_Seth; 04-11-2011, 10:49 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                      Naturally I work 4-11 next Saturday. My first ever playoff game I will not get to watch live, if even on TV.

                      The final kicker is my cable service has been mediocre at best, and sometimes channels don't show up, usually ABC/CBS/NBC. So there's a chance I may not only miss it live, but not be able to record it.

                      Hopefully FSN will also get all 4+ games; that channel has rarely if ever temporarily dropped.

                      Yay for Comcast....

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                      • #71
                        Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                        Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
                        ... It's row 5 section 4 which is behind the Pacers bench. I think that gets me a free pass from most Indy juries.
                        haha, I am feeling your pain. That is a super seat for the playoffs, maybe hard to get ever again for the price. I checked tonight and there are some sweet single & double LLs still available... one single in 2nd row just right of and behind basket... one mid LL center court, etc.

                        I would be all over one of those if it weren't for my allegiance to Area 55. I love going with friends, but if I can get a WAY better seat by myself, I'm making friends with the people around me! ha (probably easier in playoffs, too.)

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                        • #72
                          Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                          We'll be sitting in our usual seats in section 4.

                          To those still waiting on a ticket, I suggest getting them within the next few days.

                          Based on what I heard when I picked up mine, there's still a good couple of thousand left in all the levels.

                          I'm glad there won't be too many Bull****s there based on what I've heard.

                          I don't know if they will have t-shirts on the seats and make the place look like a sea of white or gold or something.

                          That's always really cool when the whole crowd is wearing the same colored shirts.
                          Last edited by Scot Pollard; 04-11-2011, 11:09 PM.
                          In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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                          • #73
                            Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                            I have a friend thats coming down form northern Indiana hes a huge bulls fan. Im gonna try to get some tickets for game 3 if their not too high (gotta watch my budget) Its awesome seeing the Blue and Gold back in the playoffs.
                            If you havin' depth problems, I feel bad for you son; I got 99 problems but a bench ain't one! - Hicks
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                            • #74
                              Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                              El P - I lived my life as a SS guy when I discovered the quality of seats you could get for face back when the market value was actually higher. I had 2nd row for the first 3 rounds of the 2000 run (1 game each, sat balcony for the other so my wife could join) which seemed insane even at the time. Finals was in such demand that even going single seat only got me row 1 club, but still...

                              Sorry, but as you said if it comes down to sitting 2-3 rows away next to a stranger that you'll be high fiving anyway in about 40 minutes vs hanging with your buddy or spouse in row 8 of section 208 that's a no-brainer.


                              In this case I got a pair in that section which as I said makes it downright insulting. That's why I had to risk the game date, no way I could pass that up.

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                              • #75
                                Re: The Playoff Tickets Thread

                                Jealous of those older Playoff seats, I was Club, but still as you're saying it was really good for playoff tickets.

                                We're probably in the minority in the willing-to-sit-by-yourself-for-great-seat mantra, but I lived by it most of last season and had great times and some great views.

                                Yeah, you can't pass up those seats regardless of date, and hopefully in a couple years you can't pass it up just on the resale value alone!

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