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    Mike Dunleavy (broken thumb) has been cleared to play. Not expected to play 2nite vs Boston though due to lack of practice time
    Now maybe players will start moving without the ball
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    FisolaNYDN Early morning sighting at Charlotte airport: former Celtics, Sixers and Pacers coach Jim O'Brien 3:03 AM Mar 27th via Mobile Web Retweeted by MikeWellsNBA
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    Hanging out with Jammal maybe ?
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    THANK GOD!!

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    Absence makes the heart grow fonder... especially on PD.

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    Wonder what happens with the rotations and playing time. Brandon is shooting well, PG needs the minutes for continued development, imo. Maybe Danny gets some time a PF? It'll be interesting to see what happens.

    What I would do is move PG to the second unit, I wanted him to stay there anyway. However, I'd make him a key offensive generator with the second unit, if not the primary guy. Bench Brandon. Thats completely just my opinion, I could probably see a different argument on it, though.

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    If O'Brien were still the coach, he would bench Paul George completely, start Dunleavy and bring Rush off the bench. Have no idea what Vogel will do, but I expect he'll play Mike some regular minutes (depending on how his conditioning is)

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    Yeah the most overrated player on PD is coming back ..................

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    Yeah the most overrated player on PD is coming back ..................
    Ya he is back in time to lead us to the playoffs

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    If they are planning on playing him at all, they should start tonight IMO. Practice first would be ideal, but I don't think it's so important to purposefully withhold a productive player from the game entirely.

    He should play tonight IMO. He won't, obviously, but I don't like it.

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    If they are planning on playing him at all, they should start tonight IMO. Practice first would be ideal, but I don't think it's so important to purposefully withhold a productive player from the game entirely.

    He should play tonight IMO. He won't, obviously, but I don't like it.
    I completely agree. It's not a whole new system, its not a player that has trouble understanding how to play. No reason to wait, even if his conditioning is off, you can play him in spurts.

    No he's not a savior, but what he brings is one of the things they are sorely missing.

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    If they are planning on playing him at all, they should start tonight IMO. Practice first would be ideal, but I don't think it's so important to purposefully withhold a productive player from the game entirely.

    He should play tonight IMO. He won't, obviously, but I don't like it.
    Against Boston? Are you expecting a blow out?

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    If they are planning on playing him at all, they should start tonight IMO. Practice first would be ideal, but I don't think it's so important to purposefully withhold a productive player from the game entirely.

    He should play tonight IMO. He won't, obviously, but I don't like it.
    I think Vogel should play him, sparingly since it is his first game back after a long absence, but he should play. Word is he's been putting in solo time in the practise gym anyway. So, why not?

    It will certainly mean limited minutes for either PG or BRush, but I'd do whatever needs to be done to get him back on the court and hopefully shake things up alittle and get a win! The biggest impact I see is the Goon Squad should return to normal. Having Hansborough start has really affected our 2nd Unit's chemistry. Hell, the entire team's chemistry was disrupted by MDjr's absence. Hopefully, getting him back will mean better ball movement and improved consistency all around. Of course, this assumes he'll get decent minutes - atleast 15-20 - and will start.

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    I just hope Vogel doesn't go with an 11 man rotation.

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    The 'Dunleavy is a net loss' posts are hilarious in a they're-not-humorous sort of way.

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    The 'Dunleavy is a net loss' posts are hilarious in a they're-not-humorous sort of way.
    In a "Hansbrough is a net gain" sort of way?
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    In a "Josh is as good as Bosh for Miami" sort of way?
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    The 'Dunleavy is a net loss' posts are hilarious in a they're-not-humorous sort of way.
    It was a serious question, Boston is the second best team in the east and we need to win the game, are you willing to jeopardize that by bringing a guy that hasn't play in like two months? Not only that but who is he going to guard from Pierce,Ray and Green?

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    It was a serious question, Boston is the second best team in the east and we need to win the game, are you willing to jeopardize that by bringing a guy that hasn't play in like two months? Not only that but who is he going to guard from Pierce,Ray and Green?
    If they hadn't been embarrassed twice over the weekend, I'd agree with you, but they were, badly.

    Offense looks stagnant/pathetic. Dun could be a shot in the arm. You still lose the game, likely, but maybe you get Dun some court time in preparation for Detroit and Milwaukee. Milwaukee almost seems like a must win, I mean really a must win, not like when people would post that in January.

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    If they hadn't been embarrassed twice over the weekend, I'd agree with you, but they were, badly.

    Offense looks stagnant/pathetic. Dun could be a shot in the arm. You still lose the game, likely, but maybe you get Dun some court time in preparation for Detroit and Milwaukee. Milwaukee almost seems like a must win, I mean really a must win, not like when people would post that in January.
    So is Dunleavy playing the point,pf or center position because those are the one that killed us during the last two games.

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    So is Dunleavy playing the point,pf or center position because those are the one that killed us during the last two games.
    Nope, but he'll move without the ball and try to get the offense resembling something organized. Look at this point, how can it hurt.

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    It was a serious question, Boston is the second best team in the east and we need to win the game, are you willing to jeopardize that by bringing a guy that hasn't play in like two months? Not only that but who is he going to guard from Pierce,Ray and Green?
    I guess I'm just getting more and more tired of commentary that centers around what a player can't do.

    There are few, if any, players in this league who aren't weak in at least one area, and most of them have more weaknesses than they do strengths, if you consider all aspects of the game. What matters the most is putting them in a situation where their positives impact the team more than their negatives. Many teams find a way to do this with the players whose weaknesses outnumber their strengths.

    So I guess I'm done (or close to it, I hope) with worrying about what players can't do, and I'd rather just focus on what they can do.

    I was listening to a podcast discussing the draft and NBA scouting, and what someone said that rang true to me is that scouts get in a trap of focusing too much on what a player can't do and not enough on what they can do. I think many of us fall into this same trap, both with the draft and with the players already in the league.

    I'm trying to be done with that, more or less. I get no benefit from taking a verbal **** on anyone. But it is still fun for me to speculate on how a player's strengths might help his team win a game.

    With all that said, that's what I'm keeping in mind with Dunleavy right now. This team needs more passing, more movement, and more court awareness. For those reasons, I look forward to Mike's return ASAP. That he can occasionally get hot from the outside is a nice perk as well.

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    I guess I'm just getting more and more tired of commentary that centers around what a player can't do.

    There are few, if any, players in this league who aren't weak in at least one area, and most of them have more weaknesses than they do strengths, if you consider all aspects of the game. What matters the most is putting them in a situation where their positives impact the team more than their negatives. Many teams find a way to do this with the players whose weaknesses outnumber their strengths.

    So I guess I'm done (or close to it, I hope) with worrying about what players can't do, and I'd rather just focus on what they can do.

    I was listening to a podcast discussing the draft and NBA scouting, and what someone said that rang true to me is that scouts get in a trap of focusing too much on what a player can't do and not enough on what they can do. I think many of us fall into this same trap, both with the draft and with the players already in the league.

    I'm trying to be done with that, more or less. I get no benefit from taking a verbal **** on anyone. But it is still fun for me to speculate on how a player's strengths might help his team win a game.

    With all that said, that's what I'm keeping in mind with Dunleavy right now. This team needs more passing, more movement, and more court awareness. For those reasons, I look forward to Mike's return ASAP. That he can occasionally get hot from the outside is a nice perk as well.
    I'm totally with you on this......but I do recognize that he does have limitations to his game....that's why I am in favor of getting him a solid 24mpg but playing in the unit where his weaknesses ( that everyone complains about ) can be best masked ( playing him SOLELY at the backup SF spot ) while pairing him with more athletic Wing Players ( either Inferno OR BRush ) and a more active/smart Frontcourt that can play some decent Team Defense.

    My preference is to keep PG in the Starting Lineup as the SG mainly because he's solid on the offensive end and his defense is very solid. He's basically more balanced and doesn't have the pressure to contribute on the offensive end as he would have in the 2nd unit. Add in that we wouldn't have to be concerned about Dunleavy's defensive limitations in the Starting Lineup if he is paired with Inferno/BRush.

    In the end, I think that the "positives" that he brings to the table will be better utilized in the 2nd unit then in the Starting Lineup...where his defensive liabilities would not be as pronounced.
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    Mike Dunleavy is not walking through that doo...

    Oh wait, actually, he is.

    He's still not the savior at SG, though.

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    While I am not a Dun fan, we do seem to play better with Dun on the floor. Hopefully he can come in and give us a spark. A much needed spark.
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