Kind of reminds me of the Stephen Colbert bit from last night...when he was talking about everyone saying NOW was not the right time to be talking about safety policy regarding nuclear plants.
He joked "The right time will be a year from now, when we can all say...nothing has happened in a year what are we worried about?" (not an exact quote)
Reading this thread made me think of that.
FWIW, (speaking as an uneducated idiot) I was sold on Hansbrough the first time he scored 20 points last season against the Hawks.
Last edited by Jon Theodore; 03-24-2011 at 04:10 PM.
*removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.
because paul george looks like he can become the best player on the team. tyler looks like he can become a decent player.
paul had athletic ability up the wazoo. paul looks like he is a guy that can score 20 ppg and defend the other guys best player. in short, paul has a much higher ceiling.
"They want to be famous. We want to be champions. They want to be rappers and backup dancers. We want to play football." - T.J. Ward, Denver Broncos
People have been doubting Tyler his entire basketball career. I don't see any reason for the doubting to stop any time soon.
He will continue to prove the doubters wrong, just like he always has in the past.
<---- Hansbrough smiling in the training room after Gerald Henderson's cheap shot. UNC won the game, Tyler was happy so he took this picture. Roy Williams keeps it on his desk.
I am not sure if teams will fully adjust to Tyler.. Who would you rather shut down? Granger? Hibbert? or Hansbrough? Then you have DC coming off screens with tons of room if you want to take away the screen game. It aint as easy as " take this guy away " and that be that.
The Pacers have 5 guys starting that can do damage and taking one away is just going to open up someone else. So its good if teams want to try and focus on Tyler IMO. Just means more room for everyone else.
Dude also was given the basketball way more times than PG gets it now.
In regards to Tyler, I think everyone should keep ****ting on Tyler Hansbrough's play. It seems to be working in his favor.
Keep it up, Pacers Digest! For the good of the team!
Has Tyler helped the Pacers win more than Roy and Danny? How do you quantify that?
When it comes to wins and losses for this team, over the course of the full season, there is no question in my mind that Roy Hibbert playing well has been the single most important factor when it comes to the team's success. Granger is a distant second, probably followed by Collison.
Tyler has had a very good stretch of games here, that is indisputable. But to say he is consistent is simply not true. Just go back to the month of February. His points totals for February were: 13, 13, 8, 18, 2, 14, 2, 16, 8, 17, 21, 3, 13. He was all over the map.
Maybe he has just "figured it out," and what he has done during the month of March is what he going to do for the rest of his career. Or maybe this is a good stretch, that isn't entirely sustainable. Nobody knows yet, but there is no reason to pretend that what he is doing recently is what he has been doing all along.
It is if you are the fifth option and you don't get the ball very often.
Kobe (maybe not as much as the others..but still plenty) LBJ, TMac, Evans all had the ball in their hands an extraordinary amount of time.
Now, because PG is raw I don't think he'd be more efficient than them, but if we included him more than he would have better numbers. (Granted, that is partially his fault. )
Yeah, if you want to know the truth. It is not just how many minutes you get but when and how. You can put a guy in for 3, 4, and 5 minute segments and if you do it often enough he can rack up some minutes but you cannot get it going in short segments like that, not on a consistent basis, no way and that is exactly how O'Brien played him. I didn't like it then nor now. To Vogel's credit those short segments came to an end.
You are the stat expert not me so tell me how many minutes Tyler averaged per game in January and then in February and now in March. I can tell you for I well remember whatever minutes he got under O'Brien were generally of a short duration even if he got in for X number of minutes per game plus better not mess up Tyler or else you will be over here on the pine. Those were the conditions he played under way back when. Got to go watch Butler now.
That's right all you 5% of PD, you just keep on saying Tyler isn't going to be an all-star or maybe Larry Bird. He'll show you.
Let's put a poll up, this Pacers player might make an all-star team:
or this player should start, same list. Tell me Tyler doesn't lead the PD vote even over Roy or George.
Freaking Pacers fan with this artificial "the world is against us" chip about everything. Tyler has shot well for about 20 days max and people are ready to say Tyler has defied all critics and blown away his top 15 draft slot and that despite a ton of other people saying the same thing the world must be against Tyler.
People "against" Tyler, ie people that doubted his chances to match where he was drafted - me, um, maybe MackeyRose I think, maybe 3 other people. The majority of fans loved the Tyler pick since day 1.
There are more PD Pacers fans that still think Josh shouldn't be in the NBA than aren't on the Tyler is great bandwagon around here. Again that's "in NBA" vs "should be starting". The list of people that would let Josh start for the Pacers now is about maybe 2-3 PD members total. Would. Let. Start.
Jrue Holiday in a Pacers uniform instead