Somewhere in the world Mackey_Rose is very disappointed.
Somewhere in the world Mackey_Rose is very disappointed.
Yay, I don't know if we're going back to the play-offs!
But Johnson was playing soft and unexcited... Horrible way to go out on your final college game
Yeah they missed Barlow but you can't blame JJ for the terrible team defense. VCU, Iowa, Michigan State... JJ needed someone helping him out in the FC, especially when your next starting big is 6'5".
He had 12 points (half) in the first half. 25/14 is 25/14.
The same people who are bashing him are the ones bashing Tyler. Their minds are made up and no matter what he does its not good enough.
If you are going to bash anyone - bash Moore. I think they are still out searching for him. He never showed up!
Last edited by troyc11a; 03-21-2011 at 12:42 PM.
I didn't technically say that, I only clarified what p4e was trying to say.
To be quite honest, I couldn't watch the whole game. I saw too many lay ups inside and it seemed like he missed a lot of shots, but I guess he went 11-20.
Oh, and PG tweeted JJ earlier:
Right on bro RT @King24George: Good Shii last night bro @BoilerBaller25
He will be drafted b/t 18 - 24 in the June Draft.
Can't blame him correct but he was a big part of it, too many times he was out of position, VCU scored atleast 20 points off of him being out of position.
You are right, he didn't show up, half of him did the other half was idk... yeah his shooting percentage was high, but should have been a lot higher if you look at the quality of the shots that he missed and some of the bad shots he took. He missed 3 easy layups a couple open mid ranged shots, not JaJuan at all, aka he didn't show up and thats just on offense
But Moore definitely deserves his share of blame for his performance, as well as, Lewis who got beat multiple times, and the rest of the team as well, zone defense was atrocious, rotations were horrible, people left open for 3's.
It was a bad performance over all, sucks for my alma mater.
But as I said before, I still would like to thank them for their play this year, just really sucks that we had to go out that way, and I am sure they feel the same way as well.
That is fine, thats why I said the whole team had a role to play. But when he is coming over to double up on a guy when he doesn't have to to try to get a block and leaving his guy wide open and his guy gets a easy to whose fault is that?
Or when he is playing zone and is letting guys get behind him and not aware where they are whose fault is that?
Or when he didn't box out I guess that is his teams fault to...
I think he is good but he really didn't play up to All American or close to all american form that game.
As for the other part of your comment all I can do is Laugh...
Who can't make a uncontested dunk or layup.
How many decent college 1, 2, and 3's cant hit wide open uncontested 3's?
We didn't even change our game plan til a couple min left in the 2nd and all we did was switch johnson to defend the 1, jackson was getting beat all night and it took us that long to try something new. If it works or not atleast try something, we were getting beat on every play.
Maybe I am just a harsh fan, I will leave it alone...
I feel like his teamates were to blame as much as Johnson. Several times he had good post position on the low block, and his teamates simply wouldn't pass him the ball. This caused a ripple effect where JJ spent too much time on the perimeter shooting threes because he was guaranteed looks and touches out there.
As far as a fit for him, I can't help but think a team like Phoenix would be a great fit. His game reminds me a lot of Channing Frye's.
I have to question who in this thread actually watched the game. I don't blame Johnson for us losing, but he looked horrible last night. It reminded me of watching Collison against Derrick Rose a couple years ago, you could see the guy losing draft position with ever possession.
Again, it's not really his fault. Anyone who's watched the Pacers the last few years knows what a 4-out team who can't defend the perimeter does to the man inside. But scoring 25 doesn't mean much when you give up twenty layups.
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I like JJ's talent, but to me he is Ed Davis 2.0
And I'm not a big fan of Davis. Both are talented kids, but I don't see how they fit into the NBA. Neither can play the 3, at least by my observations (which don't count for much). Both are far too skinny to play the 4.
If JJ ended up on the Pacers with our 1st round pick, I'd be beyond pissed off. If we could get him in the 2nd (very unlikely) I'd be completely fine. But he'd need a whole lot of time to bulk up.
EDIT: And to add this point in. The main reason I don't want JJ is he's no better than the 4's we already have. I don't want this to turn into a "is Hans the answer" thread again, but if Hans isn't the answer then so be it. But I will say this. JJ isn't the answer either. If we're gonna pick up a 4, let's get a vet that can actually play the 4.
Last edited by Psyren; 03-21-2011 at 04:49 PM.
Stop quoting people I have on ignore!
I've watched probably 75-80% of the games Johnson has played in college.
I see him as a late first round pick. He'll stick in the league because he can do two things really well: block shots and score. He'll never be an above average defender or rebounder at the NBA level. He doesn't have the strength or motor to do it.
He reminds me a lot of an old Joe Smith. He'll be a good 3rd big man who will come off the bench, grab the rebounds in his area, hurt you if you don't guard him, not make a ton of mistakes, and not try to take the game over. If you want him to be more than that, I think you'll be disappointed.
As for Purdue, their leadership void really showed up at the wrong time. When you look at the big 3, Hummel was the only one with any leadership skills. With no Chris Kramer and Hummel injured, there was no one to give the team any sort of emotional fire. Moore and Johnson are good basketball players, they're just not leaders.
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