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    Somewhere in the world Mackey_Rose is very disappointed.

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    what does this mean?
    He didn't show up for that game.

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    He didn't show up for that game.
    Ya.

    But you have to give credit to VCU they had a good game plan vs him. If Moore would have been making shot Johnson proably would have got better looks also.

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    He didn't show up for that game.
    He had 25 points and 14 reb. What a bum.

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    He had 25 points and 14 reb. What a bum.
    Though most of these points and rebounds came when VCU was playing them differently and both teams went coast-to-coast and it started to look more like 4 on 4 or less..
    Yay, I don't know if we're going back to the play-offs!

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    Though most of these points and rebounds came when VCU was playing them differently and both teams went coast-to-coast and it started to look more like 4 on 4 or less..
    yes it was up tempo and where was his defense

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    yes it was up tempo and where was his defense
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    He had 25 points and 14 reb. What a bum.
    Yeah his D was horrible the team looked so lost out there especially him, I think the lose of kelsey barlow really played a roll in how much they lost by.

    But Johnson was playing soft and unexcited... Horrible way to go out on your final college game

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    Somewhere in the world Mackey_Rose is very disappointed.
    Very much so.

    Thanks for rubbing it in.

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    He didn't show up for that game.
    A double double isn't showing up?

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    A double double isn't showing up?
    did you watch the game? they went out like punks

    edit: I should clarify. the entire team went out like punks
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    Yeah they missed Barlow but you can't blame JJ for the terrible team defense. VCU, Iowa, Michigan State... JJ needed someone helping him out in the FC, especially when your next starting big is 6'5".

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    Though most of these points and rebounds came when VCU was playing them differently and both teams went coast-to-coast and it started to look more like 4 on 4 or less..
    He had 12 points (half) in the first half. 25/14 is 25/14.

    The same people who are bashing him are the ones bashing Tyler. Their minds are made up and no matter what he does its not good enough.

    If you are going to bash anyone - bash Moore. I think they are still out searching for him. He never showed up!
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    A double double isn't showing up?
    I didn't technically say that, I only clarified what p4e was trying to say.

    To be quite honest, I couldn't watch the whole game. I saw too many lay ups inside and it seemed like he missed a lot of shots, but I guess he went 11-20.

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    Oh, and PG tweeted JJ earlier:

    Right on bro RT @King24George: Good Shii last night bro @BoilerBaller25

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    He will be drafted b/t 18 - 24 in the June Draft.

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    Yeah they missed Barlow but you can't blame JJ for the terrible team defense. VCU, Iowa, Michigan State... JJ needed someone helping him out in the FC, especially when your next starting big is 6'5".
    Can't blame him correct but he was a big part of it, too many times he was out of position, VCU scored atleast 20 points off of him being out of position.

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    I didn't technically say that, I only clarified what p4e was trying to say.

    To be quite honest, I couldn't watch the whole game. I saw too many lay ups inside and it seemed like he missed a lot of shots, but I guess he went 11-20.
    You are right, he didn't show up, half of him did the other half was idk... yeah his shooting percentage was high, but should have been a lot higher if you look at the quality of the shots that he missed and some of the bad shots he took. He missed 3 easy layups a couple open mid ranged shots, not JaJuan at all, aka he didn't show up and thats just on offense

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    He had 12 points (half) in the first half. 25/14 is 25/14.

    The same people who are bashing him are the ones bashing Tyler. There minds are made up and no matter what he does its not good enough.

    If you are going to bash anyone - bash Moore. I think they are still out searching for him. He never showed up!
    Moore played horrible too, but this thread is about JaJuan Johnson so no one said anything about more *chaching*

    But Moore definitely deserves his share of blame for his performance, as well as, Lewis who got beat multiple times, and the rest of the team as well, zone defense was atrocious, rotations were horrible, people left open for 3's.

    It was a bad performance over all, sucks for my alma mater.

    But as I said before, I still would like to thank them for their play this year, just really sucks that we had to go out that way, and I am sure they feel the same way as well.

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    Can't blame him correct but he was a big part of it, too many times he was out of position, VCU scored atleast 20 points off of him being out of position.
    On the pick and roll he was taking the guy with the ball. It's a switch, but the wing defender was too late cover his guy. Whose fault is that?

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    Can't blame him correct but he was a big part of it, too many times he was out of position, VCU scored atleast 20 points off of him being out of position.



    You are right, he didn't show up, half of him did the other half was idk... yeah his shooting percentage was high, but should have been a lot higher if you look at the quality of the shots that he missed and some of the bad shots he took. He missed 3 easy layups a couple open mid ranged shots, not JaJuan at all, aka he didn't show up and thats just on offense



    Moore played horrible too, but this thread is about JaJuan Johnson so no one said anything about more *chaching*

    But Moore definitely deserves his share of blame for his performance, as well as, Lewis who got beat multiple times, and the rest of the team as well, zone defense was atrocious, rotations were horrible, people left open for 3's.

    It was a bad performance over all, sucks for my alma mater.

    But as I said before, I still would like to thank them for their play this year, just really sucks that we had to go out that way, and I am sure they feel the same way as well.
    My point is simple. People should not pin the loss on a guy who put up 25 and 14. If he would have had some help (a ton needed). They might have made the game interesting. I don't think the Spurs could have beat VCU last night though.

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    On the pick and roll he was taking the guy with the ball. It's a switch, but the wing defender was too late cover his guy. Whose fault is that?
    That is fine, thats why I said the whole team had a role to play. But when he is coming over to double up on a guy when he doesn't have to to try to get a block and leaving his guy wide open and his guy gets a easy to whose fault is that?

    Or when he is playing zone and is letting guys get behind him and not aware where they are whose fault is that?

    Or when he didn't box out I guess that is his teams fault to...

    I think he is good but he really didn't play up to All American or close to all american form that game.

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    My point is simple. People should not pin the loss on a guy who put up 25 and 14. If he would have had some help (a ton needed). They might have made the game interesting. I don't think the Spurs could have beat VCU last night though.
    lol 2 things no one ever said he was to blame for the lost atleast I didn't, but he contributed.

    As for the other part of your comment all I can do is Laugh...

    Who can't make a uncontested dunk or layup.

    How many decent college 1, 2, and 3's cant hit wide open uncontested 3's?

    We didn't even change our game plan til a couple min left in the 2nd and all we did was switch johnson to defend the 1, jackson was getting beat all night and it took us that long to try something new. If it works or not atleast try something, we were getting beat on every play.

    Maybe I am just a harsh fan, I will leave it alone...

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    did you watch the game? they went out like punks

    edit: I should clarify. the entire team went out like punks
    Sure, but JJ was the least of the reasons for that. How about the fact that Moore might as well have stayed home?

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    I feel like his teamates were to blame as much as Johnson. Several times he had good post position on the low block, and his teamates simply wouldn't pass him the ball. This caused a ripple effect where JJ spent too much time on the perimeter shooting threes because he was guaranteed looks and touches out there.

    As far as a fit for him, I can't help but think a team like Phoenix would be a great fit. His game reminds me a lot of Channing Frye's.

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    I have to question who in this thread actually watched the game. I don't blame Johnson for us losing, but he looked horrible last night. It reminded me of watching Collison against Derrick Rose a couple years ago, you could see the guy losing draft position with ever possession.

    Again, it's not really his fault. Anyone who's watched the Pacers the last few years knows what a 4-out team who can't defend the perimeter does to the man inside. But scoring 25 doesn't mean much when you give up twenty layups.
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    I like JJ's talent, but to me he is Ed Davis 2.0

    And I'm not a big fan of Davis. Both are talented kids, but I don't see how they fit into the NBA. Neither can play the 3, at least by my observations (which don't count for much). Both are far too skinny to play the 4.

    If JJ ended up on the Pacers with our 1st round pick, I'd be beyond pissed off. If we could get him in the 2nd (very unlikely) I'd be completely fine. But he'd need a whole lot of time to bulk up.

    EDIT: And to add this point in. The main reason I don't want JJ is he's no better than the 4's we already have. I don't want this to turn into a "is Hans the answer" thread again, but if Hans isn't the answer then so be it. But I will say this. JJ isn't the answer either. If we're gonna pick up a 4, let's get a vet that can actually play the 4.
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    I've watched probably 75-80% of the games Johnson has played in college.

    I see him as a late first round pick. He'll stick in the league because he can do two things really well: block shots and score. He'll never be an above average defender or rebounder at the NBA level. He doesn't have the strength or motor to do it.

    He reminds me a lot of an old Joe Smith. He'll be a good 3rd big man who will come off the bench, grab the rebounds in his area, hurt you if you don't guard him, not make a ton of mistakes, and not try to take the game over. If you want him to be more than that, I think you'll be disappointed.

    As for Purdue, their leadership void really showed up at the wrong time. When you look at the big 3, Hummel was the only one with any leadership skills. With no Chris Kramer and Hummel injured, there was no one to give the team any sort of emotional fire. Moore and Johnson are good basketball players, they're just not leaders.
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