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My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

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  • #31
    Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

    Originally posted by joeyd View Post
    About DC....he's been very polite during each of the opportunities that I've had to meet him, and there have been probably 4 occasions. However, he does not like to shake hands. It's funny that a basketball player might have a touch of OCD, but watching him around fans, it appears that he actually could have a mild case. He will only give fist-bumps to fans, from what I have seen.
    Maybe he's mysophobic?

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    • #32
      Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

      Originally posted by Day-V View Post


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      Well that's just like...your opinion maaan.

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      • #33
        Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

        Originally posted by granger33 View Post
        Hey guys,

        As some of you know i travelled to Indiana the other week to watch the Pacers play. Just thought I'd give some of you a recap of my experience and thoughts on different arenas in the NBA.

        I travelled to LA,IND,ORL,MIA,NYK.

        All of which i can say i had a blast. Orlando does have the best arena in the NBA IMO. Such a nice concourse and the staff were nice. Didn't think MSG or American Airlines was anything special. Although I have to admit, watching Lebron and D-Wade put on a clinic is something i will cherish.

        Everyone in Indiana was so nice, when i told people i had travelled from Australia to Indiana to watch the pacers, most of them just laughed and said "mann the pacers are crap why would you do that?" which i thought was pretty funny.

        I love Conseco Field house, some of you who get to go to all the games, I hope you realise how lucky you are, as i would kill to be able to watch every game there.

        Mark Boyle Hooked me up with tickets (thanks again) and i met Chris Denari, and got a Photo with Danny Granger pre game. Thank god for the late game dunk by Brandon Rush v Pistons or i would have been depressed. Which reminds me, after that game at 3am i saw Brandon Rush at Steak n Shake and got a photo with him. (i think he was drunk) but dont quote me, he may have just been playful.

        Also saw Darren Collison and Danny Grangers dad at Hooters, Collison is a very weird individual to me. Im not sure what you guys think?

        Also talked to Slick at MSG against the knicks about 30 mins before he had the heart attack. He was no doubt the nicest person i met on the trip. We were talkin ball for 30 mins. he said a few things like.

        * He think Larry should stay on a couple more years

        *Dwight Howard will move teams

        *We should trade Danny Granger

        *He talked to Larry about dropping Lance to the D-League

        Anyway here are a few snap shots of my trip.

        http://img64.imageshack.us/i/1993171...862391347.jpg/

        http://img860.imageshack.us/i/184676...611771347.jpg/

        http://img823.imageshack.us/i/183253...411641347.jpg/
        Cool story bro. Seriously, thanks for sharing.

        The only Pacer I've ever seen outside of conseco was David Harrison, and I saw him twice. Ugh.

        Man, Brandon Rush might not be the most talented pacer of all time, but by your guys' accounts, he for sure seems like the coolest.

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        • #34
          Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

          Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
          Brandon and I waited in the same Modern Warfare 2 GameStop midnight release, but I didn't get a good photo and didn't bug him. I wish I had though since no one else seemed to know who he was at the time.

          The point being, it appears Rush is a downtown citizen which is cool to me for obvious reasons.
          I found it very funny, when rush walked into steak n shake someone yelled put "oh my god it's Paul George" n Brandon just shook is head

          AUSTRALIA'S NO.1 PACER FAN

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          • #35
            Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

            Originally posted by spazzxb View Post
            There are far worse things than being gay, like being a person who thinks there is something hate worthy about being gay. (just joking around here I know you weren't being a bigot). It does, however seem to be the one social class that some non mentally challenged people think it's still ok to defecate on.
            Yeah, I don't at all. I just hate that the implicit assumption is "this guy is weird...gay people are weird...thus, this guy must be gay."

            The transitive property of ignorance and bigotry.

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            • #36
              Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

              Originally posted by Dr. Hibbert View Post
              Yeah, I don't at all. I just hate that the implicit assumption is "this guy is weird...gay people are weird...thus, this guy must be gay."

              The transitive property of ignorance and bigotry.
              Im not a bigot, I was making a comment regarding how he comes off a little surgery, soft whatever you want to call it. Im not saying he is gay, but if he was it wouldnt bother me
              Sittin on top of the world!

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              • #37
                Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                Originally posted by Haywoode Workman View Post
                Well that's just like...your opinion maaan.
                Donnie your out of your element!!
                GO PACERS!!!

                Twitter: @Circlecity3318

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                • #38
                  Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                  Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
                  Love your avatar fam!

                  When I was going to school in Brooklyn , one of my friends was GZA cousin and I could have been in the original "Watch ya step kid" Wu Tang video

                  Ghost new album rocks!!
                  Appreciate it man. Yeah, "Apollo Kids" is real nice. Ghost always puts out good albums though. Been doin it for like 18 years now, pretty hard to believe!! If you havent heard "Shaolin Vs. Wu Tang" by Rae yet, you definitely have to. Im pretty sure it dropped last Tuesday. Hes been puttin out real solid stuff lately too, with CLII and all.

                  Crazy about the chance to be in that video. Those dudes were crazy back in the day.
                  Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/Hookjaw_Rox

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                  • #39
                    Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                    Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
                    Brandon and I waited in the same Modern Warfare 2 GameStop midnight release, but I didn't get a good photo and didn't bug him. I wish I had though since no one else seemed to know who he was at the time.

                    The point being, it appears Rush is a downtown citizen which is cool to me for obvious reasons.
                    Ya ive seen him at the gamestop by UINDY by the Target that is shoppers world now i think.

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                    • #40
                      Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                      Originally posted by granger33 View Post
                      I found it very funny, when rush walked into steak n shake someone yelled put "oh my god it's Paul George" n Brandon just shook is head


                      Which would only be topped by Paul George walking in and someone yelling "hey it's Solomon Jones".

                      Thanks for sharing your experiences. I spent the majority of my time downtown from '98-'05 and had only a handful of Pacers run-ins. You're pretty lucky!

                      And I recognize you, too. I think you were at a Lakers/Clippers game out here in LA a couple years back, but you had blonde hair/highlights. I have an unfortunately good memory, plus it's always easy to point out people in LA with Pacers gear.

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                      • #41
                        Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                        Originally posted by granger33 View Post
                        Hey guys,

                        As some of you know i travelled to Indiana the other week to watch the Pacers play. Just thought I'd give some of you a recap of my experience and thoughts on different arenas in the NBA.

                        I travelled to LA,IND,ORL,MIA,NYK.

                        All of which i can say i had a blast. Orlando does have the best arena in the NBA IMO. Such a nice concourse and the staff were nice. Didn't think MSG or American Airlines was anything special. Although I have to admit, watching Lebron and D-Wade put on a clinic is something i will cherish.

                        Everyone in Indiana was so nice, when i told people i had travelled from Australia to Indiana to watch the pacers, most of them just laughed and said "mann the pacers are crap why would you do that?" which i thought was pretty funny.

                        I love Conseco Field house, some of you who get to go to all the games, I hope you realise how lucky you are, as i would kill to be able to watch every game there.

                        Mark Boyle Hooked me up with tickets (thanks again) and i met Chris Denari, and got a Photo with Danny Granger pre game. Thank god for the late game dunk by Brandon Rush v Pistons or i would have been depressed. Which reminds me, after that game at 3am i saw Brandon Rush at Steak n Shake and got a photo with him. (i think he was drunk) but dont quote me, he may have just been playful.

                        Also saw Darren Collison and Danny Grangers dad at Hooters, Collison is a very weird individual to me. Im not sure what you guys think?

                        Also talked to Slick at MSG against the knicks about 30 mins before he had the heart attack. He was no doubt the nicest person i met on the trip. We were talkin ball for 30 mins. he said a few things like.

                        * He think Larry should stay on a couple more years

                        *Dwight Howard will move teams

                        *We should trade Danny Granger

                        *He talked to Larry about dropping Lance to the D-League

                        Anyway here are a few snap shots of my trip.

                        http://img64.imageshack.us/i/1993171...862391347.jpg/

                        http://img860.imageshack.us/i/184676...611771347.jpg/

                        http://img823.imageshack.us/i/183253...411641347.jpg/
                        Hey all first time poster here. Cheers for sharing, I'm also from Aus and can't wait to get over there and get to a Pacers game!

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                        • #42
                          Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                          Originally posted by imawhat View Post


                          Which would only be topped by Paul George walking in and someone yelling "hey it's Solomon Jones".

                          Thanks for sharing your experiences. I spent the majority of my time downtown from '98-'05 and had only a handful of Pacers run-ins. You're pretty lucky!

                          And I recognize you, too. I think you were at a Lakers/Clippers game out here in LA a couple years back, but you had blonde hair/highlights. I have an unfortunately good memory, plus it's always easy to point out people in LA with Pacers gear.
                          WOW MAN! that is incredible memory. Yeh, Thats me. This was my 1st time in Indiana and i absolutely loved it. I wanna try and move over there when im 21 and get a job somehow.

                          Didn't realize how lucky i was meeting all them players out n about. I thought it would happen all the time.

                          P.S. If anyone is reading this that is about to travel to Indiana, stay at Homewood Suits, was the best hotel I have ever stayed in, and a 2 min walk to Conseco.

                          AUSTRALIA'S NO.1 PACER FAN

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                          • #43
                            Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                            Great write-up. Glad you had a good time. Amazing you got ran into all those Pacers and got to talk to Slick.
                            Danger Zone

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                            • #44
                              Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                              Originally posted by dal9 View Post
                              youd think an nba player would have someone they could send to stand in line for them instead of doing it themselves...maybe once the guy gets off the rookie scale
                              I don't know. If it was me I'd want to get out. I mean I could have ordered MW2 and just had UPS bring it, but some of the fun for stuff like that is getting out there and hanging out with other people waiting.


                              I ran into and talked to Sam Perkins at the downtown Marsh/Omalias several years ago. I think he was over in the Lockerbie Lofts.

                              With the amount of high profile style high rise condos on the downtown market you could have a very nice commute to work, quick access to all the high dollar restaurants on off days, and actually not have to deal with too many people when you do go out on errands/etc. On a Sunday if you avoided the canal and Artsgarden areas you could walk your dog with almost no chance of being noticed/bothered.

                              I found it very funny, when rush walked into steak n shake someone yelled put "oh my god it's Paul George" n Brandon just shook is head
                              Brutal. Hopefully it was at least an intentional joke.


                              Ya ive seen him at the gamestop by UINDY by the Target that is shoppers world now i think.
                              I realize now that maybe I wasn't clear. This was the Gamestop in the downtown mall. They kept parts of the mall open special for Gamestop to do the midnight release.
                              Last edited by Naptown_Seth; 03-21-2011, 05:00 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Re: My Experience in Indiana (+USA)

                                P.S. If anyone is reading this that is about to travel to Indiana, stay at Homewood Suits, was the best hotel I have ever stayed in, and a 2 min walk to Conseco.
                                I don't know, if you've got the money I think the new JW is a petty nice situation. Indoor connection gets you all the way to Meridian indoors, and if you could get a pretty high room facing downtown that would be a really nice view. I think it's only 2 "sides" meaning every room either faces fully East (town) or West (White River).

                                The Courtyard on the canal is nice in warmer weather. Longer walk to Conseco but the rest of the time you are at the canal. $5 cab gets you to wherever downtown if you aren't feeling the 7-10 block walk.

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