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    Default Dunleavy nearly traded to Hornets?

    According to Marc Stein anyway. Apparently his injury nixed the deal.

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    Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Pacers had advanced trade discussions last month with New Orleans on a swap that would have sent Dunleavy to the Hornets. But the teams never came to final terms on a trade before Dunleavy suffered a fractured left thumb Feb. 22 that required surgery, sidelining him for 6-8 weeks and thus squelching any remaining hope he had for a trade in the final year of a contract paying him $10.6 million this season.
    No other details given. I wonder who we were going to trade Dunleavy for. Okafor and West seem like the only likely salary matches. I suppose Hornets could have sent a package of 3-4 players back, but that seems unlikely considering our full roster.

    And no, this doesn't look connected to the Mayo deal. If Dunleavy's injury caused it to be dropped, then it couldn't be connected to the deadline deal involving Mayo.

    If I had to guess, I'd say it was for Okafor.

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    The Pacers are cursed at the trade deadline. Something always gets in the way.

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    Default Re: Dunleavy nearly traded to Hornets?

    The Hornets.

    Again.

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    I refuse to believe that the Pacers could get Okafor for Dunleavy. I think the Hornets had a trade exemption so they were probably going to get a 1st round pick and Jarrett Jack.

    Either way, it's crazy how things kept going against them this year when try to make these trades.
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    Well whoever/whatever it was, no reason we couldn't get the same thing this summer right?

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    ...and that is why teams usually sideline players before trades.
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    Coulda, woulda, shoulda. I don't want to hear about this anymore until the season is over.. Just too upsetting.

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    Default Re: Dunleavy nearly traded to Hornets?

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Pacers have been trying to get David West and/or Jarrett Jack from the Hornets.

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    Well whoever/whatever it was, no reason we couldn't get the same thing this summer right?
    I think we can do a lot better this summer! I keep pointing out that really good players get moved in the Summer ALONG with a draft pick for nothing to a team under the cap (i.e. - Pacers). Remember how Hinrich got moved last year along with a pick to Wash? I believe Bird is setting us up for something like that. At least I hope so!

    Any ideas about teams who are over the cap and might be forced to give away quality players due to their salaries?

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    Emeka has played really excellent defense for them this season. No way we'd get him for Dunleavy.
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    So in theory we would have trade the following

    Josh
    Brandon
    Mike
    1st round pick

    and gotten back

    Emeka
    O.J.
    1st round pick

    If that deal would have gone down I think we would all have had to declare Larry Bird not only Exec. of the year but quite possibly for all of eternity.

    No way I believe that this trade was what was left on the table but man if it was good God talk about overhauling a franchise overnight. No wonder Danny looks depressed all of the time if he new this was possible.


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    Default Re: Dunleavy nearly traded to Hornets?

    We are all assuming way, way too much about these proposed trades.

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    Absolutely no way it was Okafor at what he has remaining on his salary. Bird wants cap flexibility, he has mentioned it repeatedly.

    it was either tpe/dun for jack/1st or something like that, or west was involved.

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    ...and that is why teams usually sideline players before trades.
    I believe that Emeka was "hurt" during that week too.

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    Told y'all Dunleavy's injury was faked just so he wouldn't get traded. (j/k, but it sure is rather suspecious how he suddenly wound up in a case right before the trade deadline. Things that make you go, "Hmmmmm.....")

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    We are all assuming way, way too much about these proposed trades.
    Yeah, I deserved that I guess

    It could easily have been a pupu platter of Jason Smith, Marcus Banks, and Willie Green coming our way, sweetened by a future pick perhaps.

    Anyway, I thought Okafor was possible because of his ugly contract.

    Strange isn't it that we seem to be doing all our deals with the Hornets. Good relations between the front offices? They went out of their way to get us a TPE from the Peja deal, as I recall. Of course, we then blew the TPE on Al Harrington, but that's not their fault.

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    I believe that Emeka was "hurt" during that week too.
    Who's to say the trade was for Okafor? All I'm saying is.... If PS&E knew a Dun trade was in advanced discussions... why was he in any position to break his thumb?
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    I'm torn on whether I'd do a Dunleavy for Okafor deal. A solid 11/10/2 for Oak, but he's owed a ton of cash. He also hasn't played PF for five years, when he was paired next to Primoz Brezec during his second season in the league.

    Could Emeka and Roy play together?

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    Who's to say the trade was for Okafor? All I'm saying is.... If PS&E knew a Dun trade was in advanced discussions... why was he in any position to break his thumb?
    I agree, I'm just saying that maybe NO had Okafor "hurt" before the trade line so he couldn't get hurt for real, a thing the Pacers didn't do. I'm not 100% sure that it was Okafor I'm just saying that he was the only guy that was out "because of injury"

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    Could Emeka and Roy play together?

    Hell yes, he is the perfect power forward to be next yo Roy.

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    My guess is that this preliminary talks probably set the groundworks for the eventual negotiations involving Mayo. I can totally see the Dunleavy deal falling apart....then Bird had side negotiations with the Grizzlies about Mayo...and with the Pacers needing a 3rd Team to make the $$$ work...Bird called up the Hornets to involve them.

    As for who we'd get back....I seriously doubt that it was the Pacers getting back Okafor. The Hornets are in the Playoff hunt.....giving away Okafor would have crippled their Frontline. My best guess is that it would have involved Jarrett Jack ( my guess a favorite of Bird ) and some Expiring contract filler.

    The only reason to trade for Dunleavy ( other then a mild boost in getting a shooter added to the lineup ) is to clear 2011-2012 Salary from the books going into the new CBA. Add in that the whole "NBA owns the Hornets" garbage, I can see complications occuring.
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    Could Emeka and Roy play together?

    Hell yes, he is the perfect power forward to be next yo Roy.
    Yup, I think they would have been great next to each other.

    We got Posey and Collison instead of Okafor and Collison.

    Posey was 2 years and about 8 Million, Okafor was 4 years and about 12 million. Okafor is clearly the better deal in this scenario, especially when fitting a huge need.

    Okafor would have had us set at the PF position, and the backup Center position. Yes, he's overpaid. But it's okay to have an overpaid guy if he's filling a role well for us. And a really good starter, that's defensive minded, can rebound and bang in the post, and play the Center and power forward position. Yea, sounds nice.

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    Any ideas about teams who are over the cap and might be forced to give away quality players due to their salaries?
    20 of the 30 teams are under the cap as of July 1 if no extensions or trades are made prior

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    If it was Dunleavy for Okafor, i'm glad it did't go through.

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    So in theory we would have trade the following

    Josh
    Brandon
    Mike
    1st round pick

    and gotten back

    Emeka
    O.J.
    1st round pick

    If that deal would have gone down I think we would all have had to declare Larry Bird not only Exec. of the year but quite possibly for all of eternity.

    No way I believe that this trade was what was left on the table but man if it was good God talk about overhauling a franchise overnight. No wonder Danny looks depressed all of the time if he new this was possible.


    Your post just gave me this thought: What if our lack of heart since the trade deadline is due to the fact that everyone knows there is no cavalry coming anytime soon. This and the fact that 2 of our starters know they were expendable and likely will be again this summer.

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