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    Default What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    Just very specific talk. Does he set better screens, shoot better, defend better? I'll let some of you guys reply and then I'll chime in.

    What does he do better from last year?

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    Hansbrough I have absolutely no idea because he barely played. He seems about the same.
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    He's done really well avoiding crazy inner ear infections/vertigo IMO.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    He looked lost on Offense last season and early this year. He's more comfortable now, and isn't afraid to shoot the ball or drive it in.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    He needs to be setting better picks and pass better thoes would make him a really good all around player.

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    As the year has progressed he has done a much better job at picking his spots. This may also be due to him getting better at passing because now when he doesn't have a good shot he can pass out. But he knows what he can and can't hit jump shot wise and does a better job at driving to the basket without there being defenders hanging off of him.

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    I think he's more under control.

    Other than that, we haven't seen much of him. He's got to defend better, rebound better, pick his spots better. But he's wildly effective with his hustle.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    His jump shot is money and he is learning to trow the one handed awkward shot.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    Pros:

    -I think Tyler is better with his back to the basket this year. His half hook looks very weird, but he has to be hitting like 60% of his shots with his back to the basket.

    -Tyler's jumpshot is ridiculously improved. He used to brick wide open jumpers, and now he is hitting them with hands in his face.

    -Tyler has a very solid turnaround jumpshot.

    -Tyler is getting better at defensive awareness every game.

    -He's been more healthy

    -He is showing more emotion and it rubs off on the other fellas.

    -He isn't getting blocked as much. Not even close.

    Cons:

    -He is having less of those, "omgzz Tylah iz a beast he gots lyk 7 off rebs and putback dunkz mad hustle," moments. He still has them, cue the game vs. Detroit, but last year he had those moments all the time.

    I dunno if this is a pro or a con:

    -He doesn't play like a chicken with his head cut off as much anymore. He's under more control. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, but last year it was almost always a good thing because we were very soft last year.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    Face up jumper and the pick and pop. Also improved on pissing off the other teams' bigs.
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    Learning how to get to the offensive boards when initially blocked out versus giving up and running back down the floor because of being blocked out. Learning the Larry Bird method of rebounding offensive boards and picking up some stuff it seems to me from Jeff Foster along the same line.

    Driving the ball and getting to the free throw line more.

    Shooting the jump shot and hitting it more consistently generally speaking.

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    He's fantastic at gathering loose balls... he's a good rebounder. He's a good screen-setter. He brings energy. He draws contact on the front-line and hits free throws. He's hitting his outside shot. He runs the floor well.

    I think he's improved at all those things this year. We knew that's what he was when he came in, and there is a very valuable need for those skills in the NBA.
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    He has settled his offensive game down and now picks his spots. This has resulted in a significant jump with his FG% which was the greatest knock on his game last year.

    Otherwise I don't see a significant difference. Yes, his defense has gradually improved and he's fouling a bit less...but these developments are minor improvements compared to his shot selection improvement.
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    He has settled his offensive game down and now picks his spots. This has resulted in a significant jump with his FG% which was the greatest knock on his game last year.

    Otherwise I don't see a significant difference. Yes, his defense has gradually improved and he's fouling a bit less...but these developments are minor improvements compared to his shot selection improvement.
    As others have mentioned already, I'm not sure how useful it is to compare Tyler from last year to anything that he is going to do in his career. Last year was just such an unusual situation, that I don't think anything from it will provide any meaningful comparisons.

    However, since you mentioned it, I looked up his stats. I knew that his field goal percentage seemed a lot better, but I was shocked to see that he has actually attempted 1 less shot per game than he did last year. I have never watched a game this year and thought that he was leaving any shots out on the court. He's making the same number of field goals, just in 1 less attempts.

    From watching the games, I think his shot selection still has a long way to go, but just from looking at the numbers there has been some serious improvement. He's still only shooting 44% on the season, but considering where he was at last year, yeah that's some major improvement.

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    Default Re: What specifically has Tyler improved on from last year?

    I feel like his midrange jumper is much better, and I think in general he's more poised. While he always will play like a wildman out there, I think he's playing like a smarter wildman, and the game has slowed down for him a bit.

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    Not really a fair question. How can you improve much when doctors don't allow you to workout or do anything until training camp for your second season is almost there? He's much more comfortable though. You could tell he wasn't right last year just from his FT%.

    Next year is when you should see some improvement. He will actually have time to work on things this offseason.

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    . . . He's much more comfortable though. You could tell he wasn't right last year just from his FT%.

    Next year is when you should see some improvement. He will actually have time to work on things this offseason.
    comfortable is a good word. he is starting to see more of the game, i think.

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    kinda difficult to answer since he only played 29 games last season. things i would like to see hansbrough improve on for next season is:

    *pump faking then driving to the basket. he is very quick for a PF, though undersized. he does pump then drive from time to time but not consistently, he will get fouled the majority of the time.

    * continue to improve on his jump shot from 15 in. once his jumper is money consistently, the pump fake and drive will benefit him even more.

    * i have no idea what hansbroughs ceiling is, maybe a poormans boozer.? but i would like to see him get rippped up. i think he will get stronger.. i envision hansbrough in 3-5 years with 25lbs more pounds of muscle and experience and think it would be fun to see dale davis and tyler hansbrough play together on the pacers in their primes. not built like antonio was, but similar.

    * his passing could improve but he will nvr be mcrob.

    one thing that surprised me about hansbrough when i did see him play last year was how much athleticsm he has. i was not a fan of his at unc, and i immediately thought hansbro would be the replacement for foster, but foster nvr has had tylers ability to get up and dunk.

    i was not a fan of tyler being selected but i knew he was a bird guy, guts and hustle and willing to get bloody. ive been a fan since watching him play last year, love the guys tenacity on the court.

    the one area hansbrough will nvr improve on his height, if he were 6'10 like Foster, no doubts he would be an all-star in this league.

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    the one area hansbrough will nvr improve on his height, if he were 6'10 like Foster, no doubts he would be an all-star in this league.
    He's 6'9". 1" isn't gonna kill his chances at being good. The myth is he's undersized. Fact is, he's the same height and 5 lbs heavier than Antonio Davis was. His arms are huge. He plays with a controlled fire that is rare. The thing with Tyler isn't that he's HUGE... it's that he's got massive heart and motor. He will flat-out out-battle people his size and even larger for rebounds, loose balls, etc. He needs to learn Jeff Foster's savvy on the defensive end, but he's already a superior offensive player to Jeff.

    I've been saying all along -- he's Jeff Foster with an offensive game. That is nothing to sneeze at.
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    I've been saying all along -- he's Jeff Foster with an offensive game. That is nothing to sneeze at.
    Obviously I'm a Tyler fan. But Foster is a man. A true, stud big man who can guard true centers.

    Tyler is more like Jeff Foster's aggressive, muscular little brother who can put it in the basket.
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    Obviously I'm a Tyler fan. But Foster is a man. A true, stud big man who can guard true centers.

    Tyler is more like Jeff Foster's aggressive, muscular little brother who can put it in the basket.
    pacers need more guys like foster. be nice if one of them could shoot though.

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    kinda difficult to answer since he only played 29 games last season. things i would like to see hansbrough improve on for next season is:

    *pump faking then driving to the basket. he is very quick for a PF, though undersized. he does pump then drive from time to time but not consistently, he will get fouled the majority of the time.

    * continue to improve on his jump shot from 15 in. once his jumper is money consistently, the pump fake and drive will benefit him even more.

    * i have no idea what hansbroughs ceiling is, maybe a poormans boozer.? but i would like to see him get rippped up. i think he will get stronger.. i envision hansbrough in 3-5 years with 25lbs more pounds of muscle and experience and think it would be fun to see dale davis and tyler hansbrough play together on the pacers in their primes. not built like antonio was, but similar.

    * his passing could improve but he will nvr be mcrob.

    one thing that surprised me about hansbrough when i did see him play last year was how much athleticsm he has. i was not a fan of his at unc, and i immediately thought hansbro would be the replacement for foster, but foster nvr has had tylers ability to get up and dunk.

    i was not a fan of tyler being selected but i knew he was a bird guy, guts and hustle and willing to get bloody. ive been a fan since watching him play last year, love the guys tenacity on the court.
    Good points. I was with you up until the following sentence.

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    the one area hansbrough will nvr improve on his height, if he were 6'10 like Foster, no doubts he would be an all-star in this league.
    I really think you are over estimating that one (1) inch height advantage of Jeff Foster. Hansbrough and Blake Griffin are the exact same height. Height and size sure helps but it isn't everything. Athleticism, lowerbody strength, good footwork, and positioning are more important.

    One thing to add to Tyler's "work on" list should be his ball handling and post-face-up game. If he could learn to get to the basket off the dribble when he faces up, he could really be unstoppable.
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    I want to see Tyler pass the ball better and play better team basketball. He gets tunnel vision and has a hard time slowing down and making good decisions at times. I love his hustle and effort he just needs to work on the mental aspect of the game.

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    I really think you are over estimating that one (1) inch height advantage of Jeff Foster.
    Does anybody who regularly sees this team in person really think that Hansbrough is only an inch shorter than Foster?

    I don't.
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    It's no myth. I don't know how he's listed at 6'9". He has to be 6'8.

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