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    What does the O.J. Mayo trade attempt teach us? Seconds after hearing the trade had fallen apart, I began to ask what points have been made and what questions were raised.

    Points Made:
    [1] Brandon Rush is not a part of this franchise's future.
    [2] Josh McRoberts is expendable.
    [3] Mike Dunleavy will not wear a Pacers uniform next year.
    [4] The Pacers believe a power forward will be available for sign or trade this summer.
    [5] The Pacers believe they need to improve their offense.
    [6] The Pacers expect very little from the draft.


    Questions Raised:

    [1] Paul George may not be the shooting guard of the [near] future. Does that mean he is the small forward of the future?
    [2] Will Josh McRoberts be re-signed?

    Obviously, many of these points and questions have been topics of debate for sometime on the board. However, if you look at the broken-trade carefully it adds closure to many of these questions. The most definitive conclusions, however, could only be made if we knew exactly what role O.J. Mayo was expected to have.

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    Thanks! I've been trying to say this all along.

    I think we have to seriously consider that George is probably being considered a 3 for this team. Does this mean we sell high on Granger? I'm fascinated by this. I feel like this is a great opportunity to get into the minds of our front office-we don't get a lot of these.

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    What does today teach me?

    It teaches me that someone should buy a huge clock and stick it on the wall of Bird's office. A nice "countdown" clock would be good too.
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    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

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    It teaches me that a lot of people still seem to think Josh is some scrub throw-in or something. The kid is solid. And he is in fact a kid, he's 23 years old (for a couple more days anyway), over a full year younger than Hansbrough. I don't know why most don't include him next to George and DC and Hibbert in our exciting young prospects or whatever you wanna call them.

    If the franchise doesn't have plans to try and retain him I think it's a big mistake.

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    I think it says we want someone who can score off the dribble in an iso situation.

    Or was it just an attempt to buy low on someone with high potential?

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    This only teaches us that bird was trying to get a high producing player for cheap. We were giving up assets that dont really mean anything to try to get a 18ppg scorer. That is all.

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    It teaches me that a lot of people still seem to think Josh is some scrub throw-in or something. The kid is solid. And he is in fact a kid, he's 23 years old (for a couple more days anyway), over a full year younger than Hansbrough. I don't know why most don't include him next to George and DC and Hibbert in our exciting young prospects or whatever you wanna call them.

    If the franchise doesn't have plans to try and retain him I think it's a big mistake.
    It's hard to include someone who doesn't have a contract for next year as a part of our future core.

    We don't have any reassurances that he will even be resigned. It's better off to think that he won't be back, because if he resigns it's either a nice surprise or, if you're like me, another mistake.

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    It teaches us that our front office has poor time management skills.
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    We have learned that apparently TPTB will go to enormous lengths of propaganda, not limited to collusion with other teams, along with leaked reports to the media, just to create a fake trade to make us all feel good about how hard they are working the phones!

    Ok, that's what some think.

    Here is what I think TPTB think.

    Rush is not part of the core. Josh is expiring and will cost too much, so why not try to get a superior player for next year. They like Tyler as the starter going forward. They like PG as the stater next year. Mike D probably won't be brought back, but maybe he would have been if the trade had gone through.

    Look for a draft time Rush trade then maybe a Mike D new contract.

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    we missed out on a home run deal

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    We have learned that apparently TPTB will go to enormous lengths of propaganda, not limited to collusion with other teams, along with leaked reports to the media, just to create a fake trade to make us all feel good about how hard they are working the phones!

    Ok, that's what some think.

    Here is what I think TPTB think.

    Rush is not part of the core. Josh is expiring and will cost too much, so why not try to get a superior player for next year. They like Tyler as the starter going forward. They like PG as the stater next year. Mike D probably won't be brought back, but maybe he would have been if the trade had gone through.

    Look for a draft time Rush trade then maybe a Mike D new contract.
    To fall apart at the last second
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    Is teaching us that Larry Bird is not the right guy to make the deals with 30+ mil in cap space.

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    Is teaching us that Larry Bird is not the right guy to make the deals with 30+ mil in cap space.
    Great. First Murphy, then Dunleavy. Now that Dunleavy is gone you'll never stop complaining about Larry Bird.

    Might want to go to the doctor for this chronic issue of yours.

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    Unfortunately we didn't get Mayo as we missed out BIG TIME here, but all of the points you made are right on. I agree with everything you brought up, and most of them are very eye-opening for us fans.

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    1) GrangerRanger is not a true Pacer fan.

    2) We were prepared to revisit "smallball"

    3) David Stern is a true believer in the old saying: "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." (plus he hates the Pacers)
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    Great. First Murphy, then Dunleavy. Now that Dunleavy is gone you'll never stop complaining about Larry Bird.

    Might want to go to the doctor for this chronic issue of yours.
    Here we go again with the complaining police...................

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    Don't deal with teams owned by the league as a third wheel?
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    o well MD is out thats good

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    Don't deal with teams owned by the league as a third wheel?
    Agreed.

    I don't know what was going on there, but that seemed like a generally poor decision to work with the team that is owned by the NBA.
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    It attempts to teach us something we should all already know. Bird tried to pull off another trade. Whoop T doo. Why would he not try to improve the roster?

    If you want to read something into it, go ahead. Maybe Granger is not the future. Maybe they sacrifice McBob and replace him with an upgrade at PF by using Granger as bait?

    Here's your lineup:

    Collison/Price
    Mayo/Stephenson
    George/Rush
    Awesome PF/Hans
    Hibbert/Murphy...

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    It attempts to teach us something we should all already know. Bird tried to pull off another trade. Whoop T doo. Why would he not try to improve the roster?

    If you want to read something into it, go ahead. Maybe Granger is not the future. Maybe they sacrifice McBob and replace him with an upgrade at PF by using Granger as bait?

    Here's your lineup:

    Collison/Price
    Mayo/Stephenson
    George/Rush
    Awesome PF/Hans
    Hibbert/Murphy...
    How the hell did we end up back with Murphy?
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    I see no reason for the Pacers to make a trade.

    The team is playing very well. McRoberts has a high ceiling and is not even close to reaching his full potential. He needs to be re-signed.

    If Paul George continues to develop, then Granger may be expendable as long as the team gets a good SF/SG in return unless one is signed in FA.

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    What did we learn? I learned that Larry shouldn't have control over the whole trade deadline thing, but that's just me. Still feel good going forward though.
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    What did we learn? I learned that Larry shouldn't have control over the whole trade deadline thing, but that's just me.
    Be careful with the "complaining police", you can't say anything bad about Larry.........

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