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    Default So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    How do you feel about this?

    Personally, I'm ready to move on from Mike.

    He's not so great that I think we have to keep playing him at this point. I'd rather move on with Rush and George. And even behind those two we have Dahntay and Lance who can play SG.

    And I say that ignoring Mike's recent bad play, which doesn't mean so much to me.

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    How do you feel about this?

    Personally, I'm ready to move on from Mike.

    He's not so great that I think we have to keep playing him at this point. I'd rather move on with Rush and George. And even behind those two we have Dahntay and Lance who can play SG.

    And I say that ignoring Mike's recent bad play, which doesn't mean so much to me.
    how is it you are aware of this, just interested in knowing if its been reported? and if so, the reasons Vogel decided to keep the rotation as is.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

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    How do you feel about this?

    Personally, I'm ready to move on from Mike.

    He's not so great that I think we have to keep playing him at this point. I'd rather move on with Rush and George. And even behind those two we have Dahntay and Lance who can play SG.

    And I say that ignoring Mike's recent bad play, which doesn't mean so much to me.
    I agree! We need a guy who plays defense.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

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    how is it you are aware of this, just interested in knowing if its been reported? and if so, the reasons Vogel decided to keep the rotation as is.
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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    I don't dislike Mike but like you (ha a lot of that rhymes) I'm ready to move on.

    No, I'm not ready to move to Rush. I'm ready to just end the speculation now and begin the Paul George era.


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    The main part of me wants to question why Vogel would keep playing him if he isn't a part of our longterm plans. However I do also feel like I need to applaud him for being consistent with the roles he defined for players at the beginning of his tenure.

    Like you, I would prefer a healthy dose of Rush/George with Dahntay getting some burn and Lance possibly as well.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    You know, I don't want to bash Vogel while he is doing well, but this just doesn't make sense to me. I will give Vogel the benefit of the double(until he drops under .500), but it simply doesn't make sense to me. At best, Mike Dunleavy is our 4th best wing, honestly, more likely the 5th. It seems like he has a big game every once in a while, just frequently enough to have the coach keep him in. In reality, he hurts our team a lot more than he helps.

    Weird how no one in the Pacers organization seems to see this.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    Well if it isn't gonna be Mike then it needs to be George. I haven't noticed Rush really embrace any role that he has had over his career, so he needs to be fighting for minutes on the bench.
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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

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    At best, Mike Dunleavy is our 4th best wing, honestly, more likely the 5th.

    Weird how no one in the Pacers organization seems to see this.
    Well, I would guess that the folks in the organization are far more capable of assessing talent and how they want the pieces to fit together than nearly all of us.

    Clearly, the Pacers do not see Dunleavy being the 4th or 5th best wing. Frankly, neither do I. It might not be a stretch to say that Dunleavy could be perceived as the 3rd best wing but that the Pacers think that he fits better with the starters whereas George fits better with the 2nd unit.

    But, I do agree with the sentiment of the thread though. I think that it is time to move on with George, especially if the team has no plans to sign Dunleavy. But I would simply exchange roles for George and Dunleavy. Make George the starter and move Dunleavy to the second unit.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    Vogel should move Dun to Danny's back up, and start PG and have Rush/Lance back up the 2.

    I believe this benefits both the starting unit and the 2nd unit.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    Mike Dunleavy in the starting lineup=

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    There are many things I could say, but won't.

    Evidently Frank Vogel believes Mike will help the team win more so than the other players that are available to him.

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    There are many things I could say, but won't.

    Evidently Frank Vogel believes Mike will help the team win more so than the other players that are available to him.
    Yeah he helps the team win......the other team.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    Yep, all 10 of our recent losses under Vogel were because Mike Dunleavy sucked.

    Wait...
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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

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    Yep, all 10 of our recent losses under Vogel were because Mike Dunleavy sucked.

    Wait...
    Make it 3 losses, because Mike Dunleavy's suckiness played a big part.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

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    Yep, all 10 of our recent losses under Vogel were because Mike Dunleavy sucked.

    Wait...
    Well...

    Think how much better they would have played without him.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    I can't find myself getting too mad at him because his +/- is tied for highest on the team.

    I know, I know, it is a flawed statistic that doesn't take into account bla bla bla.

    But obviously he helping the team in some way.
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    Yep, all 10 of our recent losses under Vogel were because Mike Dunleavy sucked.

    Wait...
    I look at it as the board just needs someone to complain about. O'Brien, Posey and Solo are all gone so who's next in line? Well Mike Dunleavy of course.

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    There are many things I could say, but won't.

    Evidently Frank Vogel believes Mike will help the team win more so than the other players that are available to him.
    You'd think after the JOb era that you'd be able to acknowledge that not every decision is made with the thought of which option leads to more wins.......

    I think the decision is more about not just throwing PG out there, but slowly bringing him into a starting role, by slowly increasing his minutes, rather than trying to evaluate which player starting would result in more wins.

    I know that's a crazy thought though, that not every decision comes down to wins and losses. Just CRAAAAAZY.

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    Yep, all 10 of our recent losses under Vogel were because Mike Dunleavy sucked.

    Wait...
    So with that line of thinking Keith Bogans is a good starting shooting guard for the Bulls, after all they haven't lost all 54 games with him starting.

    I'm pretty sure they think they can improve that spot even though they are already winning.

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    I look at it as the board just needs someone to complain about. O'Brien, Posey and Solo are all gone so who's next in line? Well Mike Dunleavy of course.
    Find one internet board, just one and it doesn't even have to be sports related, where there aren't any differing opinions.

    Just one.

    Happy hunting. You'll need it.

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    Mike has not received many minutes under Vogel and seems to be his best early in the game. Start him and if he's hot, go from there.

    George, being young, seems to do better coming off the bench. He has a better feel for the game.

    Get the most you can from Mike early and go with it.

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    Mike has not received many minutes under Vogel and seems to be his best early in the game. Start him and if he's hot, go from there.

    George, being young, seems to do better coming off the bench. He has a better feel for the game.

    Get the most you can from Mike early and go with it.

    ya like the 20 he gave up to Wade in 8mins gotta love that early production

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    Default Re: So Mike Dunleavy is still our starting SG...

    I don't hate Dun. He has some useful skills. At this point, given the fact that we have so many younger wings and the fact that Dun is in his last year of contract with us I think it's time to move Dun to situational minutes and possibly to the bench entirely on most nights. I don't know if PG is ready for the starting role or not but I do suspect he might be more passive offensively in the game with Danny and Roy. I suppose he'll have to get over that eventually anyway though, so...

    I'd be happy with either PG or Rush starting with Dahntay the third wing off the bench. Lance, well - the Pacers seem to be determined to try him as a point guard so I won't put him in the wing mix.
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    Find one internet board, just one and it doesn't even have to be sports related, where there aren't any differing opinions.

    Just one.

    Happy hunting. You'll need it.
    Just as I was stating my opinion on the Mike Dunleavy topic. I do not like Mike Dunleavy, but he is our new punching bag. That's all.

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