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    i don't care one way or another. i don't need some committee to validate his career for me. i don't need them to remind me of how much he meant to the franchise. the more i think of this kind of stuff- the less i care.
    so, pretty much a meh from me.

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    i don't care one way or another. i don't need some committee to validate his career for me. i don't need them to remind me of how much he meant to the franchise. the more i think of this kind of stuff- the less i care.
    so, pretty much a meh from me.
    I envy your outlook.

    I wish I could not care, but I just want so badly for Reg to be recognized for the superstar he was in his playing days, without all the "politics" detracting from what he did for the game.

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    Makes me wonder just a little if Reggie had gone ring chasing with the Green guys when he had the chance if he would have ended up being a first ballot inductee. I would guess his chances would have improved...

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    I am so disappointed. To read reports that Mark Jackson and Chris Mullen are still candidates for the list, when the best player on that team didn't make the cut. I am willing to accept the arguments that he is not first-ballot worthy, but stunned that he didn't make the list. Stunned.

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    Eventhough I mentioned being "not surprised" at Reggie not making the hall on the first shot... I am very surprised that he wasn't put into position to be considered for enshrinement. That does feel like a major slight. The only thing I can think of is that those that vote for the finalist had that "1st ballot" issue with Reggie.

    Yeah, I know that a lot of you bemoan the 1st ballot issue, but like it or not... That is the way the game is played!
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    I am so disappointed. To read reports that Mark Jackson and Chris Mullen are still candidates for the list, when the best player on that team didn't make the cut. I am willing to accept the arguments that he is not first-ballot worthy, but stunned that he didn't make the list. Stunned.
    You can argue about Jackson's numbers and notoriety coming as Reggie's teammate, but you can't do the same for Mullen as his accomplishments will most certainly be viewed as a G.S. Warrior most notably a member of Run TMC.
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    Makes me wonder just a little if Reggie had gone ring chasing with the Green guys when he had the chance if he would have ended up being a first ballot inductee. I would guess his chances would have improved...
    Winning a ring as a 12th man hasn't changed Mitch Richmond's outlook one bit.

    I can't think of one hall of famer who got there by "ring chasing."

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    I don't get why it's a big deal.

    Does Reggie suddenly mean more to some of you if he's in the hall of fame? He's still the same guy.

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    I don't get why it's a big deal.

    Does Reggie suddenly mean more to some of you if he's in the hall of fame? He's still the same guy.
    Of course he is the same to us either way.

    I just want him to be publicly recognized and permanently enshrined as one of the all time greats in the game of basketball, which he is.

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    I am so disappointed. To read reports that Mark Jackson and Chris Mullen are still candidates for the list, when the best player on that team didn't make the cut. I am willing to accept the arguments that he is not first-ballot worthy, but stunned that he didn't make the list. Stunned.
    ...you realize Mullin's best days were long behind him when he arrived in Indiana, right?

    He was a member of the original dream team. Outside of Laettner, all 11 NBA guys off that roster should get in.

    As for Jackson, I have no explanation. He isn't a hall of fame guy.

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    Of course he is the same to us either way.

    I just want him to be publicly recognized and permanently enshrined as one of the all time greats in the game of basketball, which he is.
    Well then you don't want him in the Hall of Fame.

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    Winning a ring as a 12th man hasn't changed Mitch Richmond's outlook one bit.

    I can't think of one hall of famer who got there by "ring chasing."
    McAdoo probably doesn't make it without those two rings with the Lakers. He had some monster years early in his career (including an MVP) but was seen as a "bad team, good stats" guy until he got on the Lakers.

    Here's the complete list of players in the hall. The one I'm most confused by is Calvin Murphy. Did he do something really important I missed?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...l_Hall_of_Fame

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    I think being a 3-time scoring champ and league MVP gets him in regardless.

    Agree entirely though on Murphy. Of all the Hall of Famers, he's the least deserving.

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    Why don't we all listen to the great coach Yoast?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPqH...eature=related

    Scroll to 8:30.
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    For the record, Mark Jackson did NOT make the cut either. Not sure who got that idea:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6136451

    Chris Mullin, Maurice Cheeks, Ralph Sampson, Jamaal Wilkes and Dennis Rodman were the players that made the final cut.

    Mullin and Rodman have the best chance. Cheeks is a 50/50 guy but would have gotten in by now if he was getting in, and Sampson and Wilkes are just tokens to satisfy college fans.

    The most interesting finalist here isn't even a player: Tex Winter. A career assistant with a very unimpressive resume outside of his days alongside Phil Jackson. That said, he completed the single greatest innovation in the NBA over the last 20 years: the triangle offense.

    I'm pretty annoyed that Bernard King apparently isn't going to ever get in.
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    I think being a 3-time scoring champ and league MVP gets him in regardless.

    Agree entirely though on Murphy. Of all the Hall of Famers, he's the least deserving.
    I'm not sure. He won that MVP because people hated Rick Barry so much. Pretty much the same rationale they'll use to vote against LeBron this year. It took McAdoo 15 years to get voted in even with the Laker titles. He's the worst (worst in the sense that the other winners are so great, not that they're bad players) MVP winner along with Nash and Iverson.

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    being the worst MVP winner is still better than being the best runner-up. There's no such thing as an unimpressive MVP.

    Ad people will have Wade and Bosh to use against LeBron this year. Derrick Rose has done as much as LeBron with less around him.

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    the more i think about this, i am not really suprised that reggie didn't make the cut. If Mel Daniels isn't in, then how can we expect reggie to make it?

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    The one I'm most confused by is Calvin Murphy. Did he do something really important I missed?
    Ask his daughters.

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    being the worst MVP winner is still better than being the best runner-up. There's no such thing as an unimpressive MVP.

    Ad people will have Wade and Bosh to use against LeBron this year. Derrick Rose has done as much as LeBron with less around him.
    Agreed that there are no bad MVPs, but an MVP isn't, or shouldn't be, an automatic ticket to the HOF.

    As for Rose, he's been great, but in no way has played as well as LeBron. Other than one assist per game and slight percentages in free throw and three pointers, LeBron is demonstrably better in every way. And as Batum pointed out, Rose takes it easy on one end of the floor.

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    the guy is winning games at almost the same clip as LeBron, and he's doing it with Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng and a bunch of cast-offs. Boozer would be the 4th best player in the Miami Heat, and Deng would be a toss up with Mike Miller for the 5th best.

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    Rose has done more with less, absolutely, but I've always hated that rationale for MVP. You're rewarding degree of difficulty instead of greatness. It's the reason Nash won his completely indefensible second MVP after Amar'e got hurt. Just give it to the guy who played best that year. It's usually not too hard to gauge.

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    The MVP has generally been about the player that has contributed most to his team's success. It's a combination of statistical and team achievement.

    I dont buy for a second that you should just crunch every player's stats into a machine and hand it out to the guy with the biggest number.

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    cannot belive this ****. in no ****ing world are dennis rodman, chris mullin, or maurice cheeks better players than reggie miller. what a ****ing joke and disgrace to pacers fans around the world.

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