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    Default Re: Reggie Miller Doesn't Make Cut For Hall Finalists

    So who are the "finalists" if Reggie is not? I couldn't seem to figure this out.

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    I would not have been surprised if he didn't make it in, but I am shocked he isn't a finalist. 'Nique was on the final ballot even though he didn't make it that first time, as I recall.

    Not being a finalist signifies very much that he is completely out of mind HoF-wise and may indicate he won't get in.

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    Some of you are missing the point. The ridiculous part of this whole thing is not that Reggie isn't going to go in the hall as a 1st ballot guy. The ridiculous part is that he isn't even being considered as a finalist to see if he can be voted in on his try. When you look at the players who are finalists this year, it makes the whole Hall of Fame voters committee look like absolute morons.

    Do I think that Reggie is a first ballot Hall of Famer? Meh, maybe or maybe not. Do I think that Reggie should at least be up for consideration to be in the Hall of Fame? You bet your *** I do, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a damn fool.
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    In my opinion, Reggie is likely a victim of being from a small market with no championship and likely a slew of voters who never paid much attention to the Pacers as a result of those factors. All they probably see from Reggie is a souped up Robert "Big Shot Bob" Horry who happened to score more points. Obviously, nothing could be further from the truth.

    I guess that is why the hall of fame (yes, it deserves no capitalization from me anymore) is exactly that - a hall of fame as opposed to a true recognition of accomplishments on the basketball court.

    What a power trip it must be for those who deny first ballot status, especially to a player who ended up 14th on the all time scorers list on top of his clutch accomplishments despite willfully deferring to his teammates to keep them more involved for the good of the team and enhancing its performance.

    Huck the fall and the voters who carried out this hatchet job.

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    As long as Stainonajock Tidewa****outakoff the 1972 Olmpic Russian basketball team locker room assistant gets in I'm ok with it.
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    I would not have been surprised if he didn't make it in, but I am shocked he isn't a finalist. 'Nique was on the final ballot even though he didn't make it that first time, as I recall.

    Not being a finalist signifies very much that he is completely out of mind HoF-wise and may indicate he won't get in.

    I agree. Not even making it to the final ballot is a very bad indictment. This is ridiculous when you think about the class that he was up against.

    Does this mean Chris Mullin is a finalist? He was on the original Dream Team and had a great college career but did he leave the impact on the game that Reggie did?
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    Ridiculous. Not even a FINALIST? The basketball 'Hall of Fame' is such a joke. The NBA really needs to make their own. It's long overdue.

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    I think it's about time for Simmons to make his Pyramid idea in French Lick a reality.

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    I just saw the list of finalists.... this is just plain ridiculous. Not being admitted is semi-understandable (though this year's list is weak), but not even being a finalist is ludicrous. Honestly, with this weak of a class and not even being a finalist... I would not be surprised if he never makes it in.

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    So, the next question is will Reggie be involved on the TNT broadcast of the All Star festivities where the finalists will be announced, or will he ask to be excused from that?

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    Obviously the announcement of the finalists is being made today. I didn't realize that when I made the post. I thought the announcement was going to be made sometime during the All Star festivities.
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    and
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    Hall of Fame committees are a joke. All of them.

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    i will argue anybody to the death about his "lacking per game numbers" because people need to understand the style of ball played during reggie's era and why he didn't average more points. his offensive efficiency numbers rank him as one of the top 5-10 offensive players in the game. you just don't lead a team to as many playoffs as he did, to as many ecf's as he did against some of the greats of all time with ****ing rik smits and jalen rose as your sidekicks without being a hall of fame player.

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    Maybe this snub (not even a FINALIST people, we aren't upset that he wasn't inducted) will help the cause for a separate hall? I don't know about you all but I'm sick of seeing random college coaches and refs getting in over much more deserving NBA stars. It honestly seems like whoever is on the selection committee are those 'only the college game is real basketball!' types.

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    I would not have been surprised if he didn't make it in, but I am shocked he isn't a finalist. 'Nique was on the final ballot even though he didn't make it that first time, as I recall.

    Not being a finalist signifies very much that he is completely out of mind HoF-wise and may indicate he won't get in.

    This is what I was thinking too... To not even make the list of finalists puts him on shaky ground to ever be in the HoF. According to the article he didn't even make the final cut to be considered for the HoF. So it's not just that he won't be a first ballot inductee, he won't even be on the first ballot to begin with.

    I personally agree with Kegboy's stance but knowing how the process plays out, and knowing how the arguments for/against Reggie's chances to make the HoF have always been discussed, not even making the ballot starts to make those in the minority that argued Reggie hasn't had a HoF career look like it might be the sentiment of voters for the selection process.

    Not making the hall in his first year is one thing.... Not even making final consideration for the ballot is another. I call
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    Ridiculous. Not even a FINALIST? The basketball 'Hall of Fame' is such a joke. The NBA really needs to make their own. It's long overdue.
    Hall of Fame a joke? I mean where else can you go to see the Harlem Globetrotters basketball that made the first ever 4 point shot. No I am not joking, the Hall of Fame actually has the ball on display.
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    What's this nonsense about first ballot? Either you're in or you're not. If Reggie is a HOFer, he's a HOFer. I wasn't aware they segregated all non-first ballot players to above the urinals and in the stalls.

    I suppose Paul Pierce and Ray Allen are first ballots because they were fortunate enough to be gifted each other's talents (plus one of the best players of our generation) despite being perennial losers their entire careers?

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    WOW!

    Ok, so it's well known that I've been one of the biggest "Reggie is a 1st Ballot HoF" supporters on the board...

    Whether you agreed with that PoV or not, you have to admit that his exclusion from even the finalist list is just sad, wrong and despicable.

    If I wasn't already disillusioned about the whole process, this is the icing on the cake. The HoF will never regain my respect.

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    Too many voters pulling for their 4th stringer that the obvious choice, who is assumed to get votes "from the other guys", gets screwed...

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    Reggie probably hurt himself somewhat with his longevity. Had he retired after the finals run in 2001 he would have easily been a first ballot Hall of Famer. The last four years as a third option slightly deflated his per-game averages and percentages (probably the only thing voters look at).

    The basketball hall of fame isn't worth worrying about, though. They'd much rather enshrine a Euro women's superstar or high school coach.

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    Reggie probably hurt himself somewhat with his longevity. Had he retired after the finals run in 2001 he would have easily been a first ballot Hall of Famer. The last four years as a third option slightly deflated his per-game averages and percentages (probably the only thing voters look at).

    The basketball hall of fame isn't worth worrying about, though. They'd much rather enshrine a Euro women's superstar or high school coach.
    I wish Dick Bavetta would have been hurt by his longevity.

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    I never expected Reggie to get in during his first year of eligibility. I did expect that he'd make it to the the finalists stage though.
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    There is one very important question that everyone has neglected to ask amongst all of this...





    Did John Starks cut each member of the election committee a personal check, or just hand them cash in a bent envelope?

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    press confernce on NBA TV right now

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    I know it's petty and in the grand scheme of things "not a big deal".

    But this REALLY upsets me.

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