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    There has been a lot of talk about just letting our contracts expire and just going into next season with what we have, but we will have to sign some guys for next year to fill our roster and to meet the minimum salary cap.

    The minimum salary cap is 75% of the salary cap, if things stay about the same after renegotiations. Then we would have to spend at least around 8.5 mil if the salary cap stays the same as last year at 57.7 mil. We only have about 34.9 mil in contracts for next year.

    Maybe we resign Dunleavy for a lot less like 5 mil. per year for 3 years or maybe we go after other players and let Dunleavy walk. I would like us to go after Carl Landry, Marcus Thorton, and if we want to go big and sign some one to a 10+ mil. contract I would go after Jeff Green.

    Landry would bring a lot of scoring to the PF postion, but not a lot of rebounding. Thorton would bring a big spark to the SG postion and he played well next to Collison last year. Jeff Green can play PF and SF. He is still young and would be a great compliment to our youth.

    We could always try to go after Nene, or West both of which would be great here, but I think West will stay in New Orleans to play wtih CP3. Nene is going to cost a lot and we would have to sign him to long term contract and he would be 34 by then end of it making around 12 mil. or more. At that age it might not be something the front office would want to get into.

    Here are the links to the NBA salary cap and hoopsworld pacers team salary.

    http://insidehoops.com/nba-salary-cap.shtml

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9198
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    Or not.
    The only downside of being below salary minimum is that you have to pay the difference to the league. It in turn divides that amount to all the players from all teams. So you aren't losing anything, just what you would spend anyway.
    Besides, you are supposed to meet the minimum in the span of the season, not at the start of it. So, you can start with 15 minimum salary guys if you want to, and fill up the cap space at trade deadline.
    There's no negative outcomes whatsoever for being under the minimum. Nothing forces you to spend on trash.
    You can just fill the roster with minimums from NBDL.

    All that said, this will be governed by the new CBA, and we have no clue what it will say.

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    Or not.
    The only downside of being below salary minimum is that you have to pay the difference to the league. It in turn divides that amount to all the players from all teams. So you aren't losing anything, just what you would spend anyway.
    Besides, you are supposed to meet the minimum in the span of the season, not at the start of it. So, you can start with 15 minimum salary guys if you want to, and fill up the cap space at trade deadline.
    There's no negative outcomes whatsoever for being under the minimum. Nothing forces you to spend on trash.
    You can just fill the roster with minimums from NBDL.

    All that said, this will be governed by the new CBA, and we have no clue what it will say.

    Yea, but we would still need to sign some players. I would rather sign the 8.5 mil or whatever it turns out after the new CBA then just pay it back to the league.

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    Yea, but we would still need to sign some players. I would rather sign the 8.5 mil or whatever it turns out after the new CBA then just pay it back to the league.
    If we can't get anyone, I'd prefer to keep the cap till trade deadline. The last thing I want is a bunch of roster fillers on 2-3 year deals, just because we had the space.

    Anyway, I hope we sign David West or something similar and don't have this problem at all.


    Btw, we aren't talking 8.5 mil here. Even if the cap size and rules remain as high as this year, it's around 5 mil under minimum after signing 2011 rookies. And 3 roster spots. Realistically, we'll probably get over salary minimum by resigning McRoberts and getting a couple of minimum guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballism View Post
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    If we can't get anyone, I'd prefer to keep the cap till trade deadline. The last thing I want is a bunch of roster fillers on 2-3 year deals, just because we had the space.

    Anyway, I hope we sign David West or something similar and don't have this problem at all.


    Btw, we aren't talking 8.5 mil here. Even if the cap size and rules remain as high as this year, it's around 5 mil under minimum after signing 2011 rookies. And 3 roster spots. Realistically, we'll probably get over salary minimum by resigning McRoberts and getting a couple of minimum guys.
    specially resiging Dunleavy to 3 yrs 15 millon I would perfer cap room to thoes types of deals.

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    There's no reason to worry about this. Plenty of teams will be willing to give us picks in return for taking players off their hands.

    There's a reason no team has yet had to refund money to the league.
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    I want afflao Thornton and west! That's it maybe Thompson too. Get it done! Lol you kno if this goes down that we would have like a mini hornets team. Lol they will probably get their own section of the looking room called Who Dat Nation lol

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    There's no reason to worry about this. Plenty of teams will be willing to give us picks in return for taking players off their hands.

    There's a reason no team has yet had to refund money to the league.
    +1
    Unless Grizzlies start selling their cap for cash again like they did a few years ago. Was it 2008 or 2009 when their owner pocketed ~8 mil by taking on players from luxury tax teams. No picks received, just cash and players with deferred salary clauses. When there's a sellout owner like that, it's harder to get any picks/assets for cap for everyone else.

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    If the deadline rule indeed applies you can just wait until the last second and take a veteran solid role player with huge expiring contract playing on a team who really don't need him wether due to rebuilding or going young... Antwan Jamison for instance. The experiment can't hurt anyway and you can also have the chance as stated to snatch something more.

    Even if it's not the summer 2010 bonanza the 2011 FA agent class is not too shabby. There are a few good players we can go after and still be able to facilitate deals later.

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    Don't forget... We'll have two rookies to sign.

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    Don't forget... We'll have two rookies to sign.
    Or not. I don't know if a mid-second round pick out of this draft will be good enough for the NBDL, let alone our roster. If the Pacers make the playoffs, our pick will be around the 15th or 16th selection. Under those circumstances, the Pacers are probably just as likely to trade it as they are to keep it.

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    Or not. I don't know if a mid-second round pick out of this draft will be good enough for the NBDL, let alone our roster. If the Pacers make the playoffs, our pick will be around the 15th or 16th selection. Under those circumstances, the Pacers are probably just as likely to trade it as they are to keep it.
    Both these points are true... But if we have empty spots on the roster and we are under the cap, keeping the player we draft in round two is a great way to do it. And, if we trade the #1 pick, we will be getting a player in return so the point still stands. (unless we swap for a future #1, which seems unlikely given our current position as a franchise).

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