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    http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/...nclick_check=1
    The Warriors are not getting Carmelo Anthony. As much as they would like to add the Denver Nuggets' All-Star small forward, especially franchise CEO Joe Lacob, just too many obstacles exist for that to happen.

    To be sure, it would take something dramatic for the Warriors to get a difference maker at all.

    Despite the co-owner's wishes and general manager Larry Riley's efforts, that missing piece is just not out there right now. Things can change, considering the trade deadline is just under a month away. But the season-changing trade is unlikely, even with more than $17 million in expiring contracts as barter.

    If it can happen, the Warriors' best bet at a major injection figures to be at small forward.

    A legitimate center is a rare commodity in the NBA. Ditto for point guards. (According to one team source, it would take a monster offer to pry Stephen Curry from the Warriors' hands.) The Warriors are locked in with $80 million man David Lee at power forward, and good luck acquiring a shooting guard better than Monta Ellis -- and at $11 million a year.

    That leaves small forward. The options at that position are not as unreasonable as the Warriors' nabbing their major need -- a formidable center.

    "If Dorell Wright is coming off the bench," one team source said, "we're a really good team. That would solve two problems. It would give us the upgrade in talent, and it would bolster our bench significantly."

    Who might such a player be? (Warning: don't get your hopes up.)

    Andre Iguodala: The Philadelphia forward has been on the Warriors' radar for a while, according to team sources. But a few things are working against the Warriors. The 76ers (20-26) are eighth in the Eastern Conference, making it unlikely they'll dump a star while in the playoff chase. Rookie Evan Turner has struggled, making Iguodala less expendable. And the Warriors' lack of a desirable center deprives them of the bargaining chip the 76ers need.

    Luol Deng: The Chicago forward would give the Warriors better size and rebounding at that position. He also would be the Warriors' most-efficient scorer at that position in recent memory. Obstacles? Deng is due $40 million over next three seasons. Is he that good? Also, Chicago would probably want Ellis but would have to settle for expiring contracts. Is that enough?

    Josh Smith: The business of basketball suggests Atlanta will eventually have to trade someone. After posting the third-best record in the East last season, the Hawks are looking at a No. 4 or 5 seed despite having the eighth-highest payroll. Chances are the Hawks won't retool soon. But if they did, Smith would seem to fit at small forward for the Warriors. He affects the games on both ends.

    Jeff Green: He is a pending restricted free agent. But Oklahoma City can't go crazy with his salary because it has to save room for Russell Westbrook's extension. Many believe Green is playing out of position at power forward. Instead of keeping Green, the Thunder might want to save the money to go after a true power forward in the future. It would be risky to trade a starter on a rising team, but if Oklahoma City did, Green could work for the Warriors and might come at a good price.

    Danny Granger: The Warriors wouldn't mind getting their hands on the Indiana star, whom they passed on in the 2005 draft for Ike Diogu. Granger is a difference maker who could be even better with more help around him. But the Pacers have some $30 million coming off the books. They will be in rebuild mode with Granger and Darren Collison as the core.
    Ellis, Udoh, a couple no 1's?
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    You think Granger is worth Ellis, Udoh and 2 first round picks?

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    Monta E for Danny? All day and 20 times on Sunday.....

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    I don't see a deal between the two teams that makes sense unless they are willing to part with Ellis.

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    Nope, no thanks Ill pass. No deal.

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    The article said it was not very likely,

    outside of Ellis and Udoh , and picks I cant see anything else of value on their roster
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    How about Stephen Curry? I can't believe how far he's falling, so quickly.

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    Am I the only one that just isn't that interested in Ellis? There's no doubt he's an elite scorer and would be the best player on our team, he just has such defensive limitations and needs built around so specifically it's hard for me to really "want" him if he's going to be a #1 guy.

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    How about Stephen Curry? I can't believe how far he's falling, so quickly.
    I like Curry, although the Warriors GM backed off a little and said that Curry would take a "monster offer" to move him

    Problem I see is a very small DC/ Curry backcourt
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    I perfer wright why would they want a more $ Dorell Wright who just aves a few more points

    Dorell is a steal at 3ys 11m

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    no way curry and collison can make up the guard spots. they are just too little. monta ellis >>> darren collison and GSW can't make the 2 little guys into a decent guard combination. there is no way the pacers could with curry and collison.

    granger for ellis is not a good deal. not for a team that has playoff plans. ellis is showy, but little. once the teams get to the playoffs, ellis will be posted, shot over and generally abused on defense.

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    How about Stephen Curry? I can't believe how far he's falling, so quickly.

    I'd probably do it if it was Curry, a 1st round pick, and VLad Rad (expiring)and Dan Gadzuric (expiring) for Danny and James Posey.

    That would clear another 7 Million off the books this summer. Give us 2 first rounders in this summers draft. Clear the 3 for Paul George. AND give us a younger high upside 2 prospect in Curry.


    Then we would also have tons of cap space to help facilitate trades over the summer and next year. Similar to how the Memphis Grizzlies have used their cap space over the last couple of years.

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    Am I the only one that just isn't that interested in Ellis? There's no doubt he's an elite scorer and would be the best player on our team, he just has such defensive limitations and needs built around so specifically it's hard for me to really "want" him if he's going to be a #1 guy.
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    Default Re: Warriors after Granger

    Nothing in this article actually made me believe the Warriors are "after Danny." Would he fill one of their needs? Sure, but that doesn't mean they are actually pursuing him.

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    I'd do David Lee and Steph Curry for Danny and Paul George + 1st Rd Pick

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    If we could get either curry or ellis (who is playing at an all star level this year), i'm all for it.

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    I'd do David Lee and Steph Curry for Danny and Paul George + 1st Rd Pick
    Not me. I'm that high on PG. Who would play Small Forward?

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    I think the thread title is a bit misleading. It's less "Warriors after Granger" and more like "Columnist speculates on small forwards that could possibly be acquired by the Warriors."

    It's like one of my friends writing an article on what I might want for dinner tonight and listing:
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    And then someone else starting a thread, Aw Heck eating Wings.
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    DC, Ellis, PG, PF to acquire this off season, and Roy. I could be happy with that. I like Granger alot, but Ellis's offensive abilities are in another league.

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    Default Re: Warriors after Granger

    Title of thread should be changed to: "Writer speculates on 5 players players the Warriors could go after but probably won't."

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    I'd do David Lee and Steph Curry for Danny and Paul George + 1st Rd Pick
    David Lee isn't much better than what I think Tyler will be and Curry would be redundant with DC. Meanwhile, we're giving up our #1 player (DG) and top young talent (PG) and a first?

    That trade would do nothing to address our needs and set us back talent-wise, significantly, and chemistry-wise.

    Give me a dominant post presence for Danny or give me nothing.

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    If the title aggravates anyone feel free to change it

    I didnt put that much thought into it
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    Give me a dominant post presence for Danny or give me nothing.
    You're probably looking at Al Jefferson or nothing. Maybe Derrick Favors if NJ still feels like pulling a big deal after failing to get Carmelo. I'd look at that.

    Not getting Aldridge, Amare, Griffin, etc...

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    Trading Monta for Granger is more of a lateral move where we make a "positional trade".

    To me...It only makes sense to pair Granger with a Player like Monta....or vice versa.
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    Ahhh, the grass is always greener. Granger for Ellis is a lateral move that accomplishes nothing.

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