38 games to go. How many will we win without JOB?
38 games to go. How many will we win without JOB?
it ll be more than what we have right now 17? we ll go 22 to 25
54, including playoffs
24 games is the goal, why?
Because 50% in the Standings and achieve 7th position in Playoff's race
If you honestly expect much of a change, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.
I don't expect much success. I do however expect a positive change in the Pacers locker room. If nothing else, this is just a fresh start for the guys and also knowing we will officially be starting over next year.
Stop quoting people I have on ignore!
I say more than half only if we start to see more consistent lineups. Plus the locker room change should be good for their psyche.
I voted for half, which would put us in the 36-38 win range and probably just outside the playoffs, lottery-bound, and get the 9th or 10th pick in the draft... again.
The team has the talent to be slightly above average, but to get back to average, it would need to play significantly above average, and I am not sure if that's what is going to happen.
Without the "difference maker" making a difference (about 8 games to this point of the season in my opinion, so the record currently could have been 25-19 through 44 games), assuming that the players adjust to a new normal and play the games that they can play and that they are utilized in a relatively logical manner, there is really no reason not to believe that the rest of the season couldn't be about 22-16 or so, for a final record of 39-43.
There will be an adjustment phase for several games, though, but the all star break should give some practice and adjustment time to help counter some of it. Also, if the franchise makes some other moves, who knows?
I expect to see a honeymoon period which could lead to a few wins. I expect the team to play with more spirit. I'd hope the interim coach implements changes to allow the players to play to their strengths and quickly finds a nice rotation and sticks with it. This will help with team chemistry and energy. Less Chinese fire drill and more discipline in the offense. Emphasize Defense Defense Defense.
That alone would stop the tailspin and make the team more competitive and put a better brand of basketball on the court.
How much that changes the record we'll have to see. I can't imagine too many coaches being worse than JOB at this point with the team.
Nuntius was right. I was wrong. Frank Vogel has retained his job.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
I expect a honeymoon period too. Especially with the upcoming schedule.
We go 14-24 and there is huge outcry to fire this coach as well. We get a lotto pick that we use on a college Senior, or a foreign guy.
Probably looking at 30 wins next year as well.
I don't expect our record to change much, because we still don't have the impact players that we need (at this point at least), but I expect the product on the floor to be greatly improved and the fans' satisfaction to improve.
I suppose it largely depends on whether or not Vogel keeps the current offensive/defensive schemes in place and how much of a heavy hand Larry has with forcing his preference on who's on the floor.
Of course, if Larry pulls off a trade and our players change in a more favorable manner, our record will likely improve. If that happens, hopefully everyone won't starting calling Vogel as a genius and question whether or not we should pursue Mike Brown or Nate McMillan.
We need one of those two guys and player personnel changes.
If we do hire Brown, I'll be real curious to see how he runs the team. It's hard to think ahead though with all of the changes in the roster that are due between now and then.
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team. -- Scottie Pippen
I don't care how many wins as long as they develop the young players, this is the year to find out what we have and let them grow, is time to sit Posey,TJ,Dunleavy,Foster and every other old player that is no part of the future.
Now I believe we will finish at least .500.
Well they are 10 under .500 now so I'll have to say 38-44
And the walls came tumbling down.....
I'm not bender (now known as I Love P), but he agrees 100% with me. I'm the guy who usually stands next to bender (now known as I Love P), when bender (now known as I Love P) actually makes it to a game, yelling I Love Larry.
If Vogel signs a 20 year deal tomorrow, I'll be the happiest guy in the world.
I would like to get back to .500, but that probably isn't going to happen. As long as we play the young guys and get a core group of guys that get used to playing together and know going into each game about how many minutes they are going to get, then I will be happy.
were getting back to .500, the whole pacers team hated obie and this should get everyone excited and now they can compete
i think we could go 10-2 then our record would be 27-29
vogul couldnt have asked 4 an easier schedule