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    Default Pacers guard Ford takes latest demotion in stride

    read more here:

    http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...emotion-stride

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    Three seasons, three demotions for Indiana Pacers point guard T.J. Ford.

    Ford's latest banishment occurred during the team's 0-for-4 trip that concluded Sunday with a loss at Denver.

    It didn't happen because Ford played his way out the rotation, according to coach Jim O'Brien, but because the struggling Pacers are gradually beginning their youth movement. They are looking to see who they can count on in the future.

    O'Brien preferred to use Ford in the fourth quarter of close games over starter Darren Collison because Ford had the experience advantage.

    "T.J. Ford has played very well for us," O'Brien said. "He's our best defender from the point guard spot. But A.J. has certain things he can do that T.J. can't do. You have to attempt to win every game and develop a nucleus."

    Ford is averaging 5.8 points and 3.6 assists in 19.5 minutes a game this season.

    "Pretty much, I understand that the time is up here," he said. "I can just sit here. I was in the same situation last year. I'll continue to cheer guys on because I want to see A.J. and Lance do well. They're part of the future. Under the circumstances, I'll still come to work every day and be professional about it."
    I theorized that the reason O'Brien refused to comment why TJ wasn't playing was due to some mandate, and not his choice...I may have been right.

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    TJ Ford is a great guy, he really is. I'm not a fan of his game, but I will always root for his success wherever he ends up.

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    TJ Ford is a great guy, he really is. I'm not a fan of his game, but I will always root for his success wherever he ends up.
    He really has handled the benchings incredibly well. He does seem to be a stand up guy. I just hate his play for this team.

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    I hate it that his not playing is always so public. The way he and DJ have been treated. I can't imagine many free agents would want to risk coming here to play
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    Default Re: Pacers guard Ford takes latest demotion in stride

    The real question: How is flox handling TJ's demotion?

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    I hate it that his not playing is always so public. The way he and DJ have been treated. I can't imagine many free agents would want to risk coming here to play
    That is very true, however O'Brien won't be here next year(knock on wood) so most free agents won't have to worry about that.

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    He's being paid 8.5 million for the season. If he's told to sit on the bench he has no reason to complain especially with the way he plays. It's not like he's done anything that warrants him being above Price in the depth chart.

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    I would not handle the jacking around as well as TJ. His professionalism is pretty impressive.

    Honestly, I think he's just smart. That attitude makes him more marketable even if it is as a backup.

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    He's being paid 8.5 million for the season. If he's told to sit on the bench he has no reason to complain especially with the way he plays. It's not like he's done anything that warrants him being above Price in the depth chart.
    It doesn't matter how much money he is paid. He loves basketball and i'm sure he wants to play who wouldn't? He has been a starter most of his career. 95% of the players in this league would not have handled his inconsistent playing time over the last couple of years half as well as he has.

    Like others I am not a huge fan of his game but I appreciate how mature and professional he has acted. It's really a shame that it goes unknown or even expected.

    I appreciate TJ. Almost everyone in every aspect of their life can look at how he has handled adversity and learn something from him.

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    I don't want him as our starting point guard or our backup point guard. But this guy is a class act.
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    I remember being excited when we dealt for T.J., but I didn't expect it to be the way it has been the past three seasons. It would have been interesting to see how he would have done here under a different coach who didn't emphasize an aspect of the game which happens to be his weakness.

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    He really has handled the benchings incredibly well. He does seem to be a stand up guy. I just hate his play for this team.
    I think him being her may help some of our younger players. Learn to deal with tough decision, over come hurdles, and be a total professional.
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    "AJ can do some things that TJ can't"

    I can go down the list..run a team, play the PnR well, pass well, guard a PnR well, actually set a screen, typically not make stupid decisions...

    But I have a feeling JOB means "make three pointers"

    Anyway, TJ has handled everything well. He also knows that odds are he'll end up back in the rotation. Interesting that TJ said he expected it to happen.

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    Just as Dr. Awesome said above, TJ has been nothing but a professional his whole time here.

    He's handled it incredibly well, and I'm impressed with his continued professionalism.

    I hate the guy's game, but I respect him as a person. I'm glad to see him out of the rotation, but when his time here is over I wish him nothing but the best.

    Same goes for Mike Dunleavy.
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    He's being paid 8.5 million for the season. If he's told to sit on the bench he has no reason to complain especially with the way he plays. It's not like he's done anything that warrants him being above Price in the depth chart.
    he could've gone Troy Murphy on us...just sayin'

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    I predict a buyout if the Pacers don't find a TJ trade before the deadline. No point in keeping him, and I'm sure TJ will want to establish some value before his free agent year.

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    As much as TJ's game has frustrated me during his time here he has been a real professional. Given the way a lot of NBA players act this could have been a disaster for the Pacers, TJ has handled himself well.

    I am sure the 8.5 million this year is helping him feel better though.

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    Like most others here, TJ is a classy guy, but I don't care for his game at all. I'm not sure AJ is really a long term solution as a backup, but he'll do ok for now.

    TJ also mentioned Lance, so it seems the Lance point guard charade is on. I'd rather have Lance as our backup shooting guard next year and maybe play some point if we decide to go with a "big" lineup. I really hope Rush and Dunleavy are gone by next season.
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    I'll always be curious just what TJ Ford could have been in this league if his spinal cord didn't have that narrowing condition. I think he could have been very, very good.

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    I'll always be curious just what TJ Ford could have been in this league if his spinal cord didn't have that narrowing condition. I think he could have been very, very good.
    I understand that his spinal injury could contribute to his inability to finish at the rim, but I feel his biggest criticism is his lack of "vision". I don't think his injury contributes to that...
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    I understand that his spinal injury could contribute to his inability to finish at the rim, but I feel his biggest criticism is his lack of "vision". I don't think his injury contributes to that...
    He lost almost a full two years of his career to neck injuries...how could that not hurt his vision? The guy lead the NCAA in assists as a sophomore for crying out loud! Let's not act like he never knew how to pass the basketball.

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    I understand that his spinal injury could contribute to his inability to finish at the rim, but I feel his biggest criticism is his lack of "vision". I don't think his injury contributes to that...

    I wouldn't be shocked to see TJ playing heavy minutes on a better team next year? He's been reasonably effective in every other stop in his career.

    The disconnect between management and the coaching staff continues. Just another example.

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    He lost almost a full two years of his career to neck injuries...how could that not hurt his vision? The guy lead the NCAA in assists as a sophomore for crying out loud! Let's not act like he never knew how to pass the basketball.
    Hey, if college performance amounted to much in the NBA... Hansbrough would be our version of Tim Duncan. That point aside... losing 2 years of your career probably does have an effect, but I'll plead to ignorance and say I've only seen his NBA body of work... and not a whole lot of it in Milwaukee! Not impressed with much of what I've seen!


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    I wouldn't be shocked to see TJ playing heavy minutes on a better team next year? He's been reasonably effective in every other stop in his career.
    -snip-.
    I'm sure he would look a lot different in an offense where the point guard can pound the air out of the ball be ball dominant.
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    He lost almost a full two years of his career to neck injuries...how could that not hurt his vision? The guy lead the NCAA in assists as a sophomore for crying out loud! Let's not act like he never knew how to pass the basketball.
    His neck injury caused him to stop looking to his left?

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    His neck injury caused him to stop looking to his left?
    Who knows.

    My point is when a young player loses 2 years of their developing years in the NBA it will take an effect. Milwaukee TJ Ford and Texas TJ Ford could make some of the most brilliant passes you've ever seen. He was never even known as much of a scorer at Texas, yes he could score due to his speed, but he was a pass first PG, the same was true with the Bucks before the first injury.

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