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Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

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  • Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18565
    BY LUKE BYRNES

    One thing has remained constant throughout the course of the first three months of the 2010-11 NBA season: Blake Griffin's dominance. Few rookies have ever made the impact Griffin has this season, helping to transform the Los Angeles Clippers into a competitive team that is, if nothing else, must-see television.

    While it appears as if Griffin will run away with the Rookie of the Year award this season, several other rookies are starting to find their collective way in the NBA. Here is a look at the Rookie of the Year race to this point in the season.

    Ballin'

    Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers – 31.5 points, 14.5 rebounds, 5.2 assists, .577 FG (This Week)

    For the last several weeks, Blake Griffin has nearly been excluded from this conversation because of the fact he has been so dominant it almost feels too obvious. I had come to the conclusion the former Oklahoma star wouldn't be mentioned in the body of this week's Award Watch (simply in the introduction and in the rankings that follow), but Griffin took his already remarkable game to another level this week. Yes, he had his streak of 27 consecutive games with a double-double snapped (posting a pedestrian 29 points, eight rebounds and six assists in a win over the Timberwolves on Jan. 19), but Griffin's play was as good, if not better, than any player in the NBA this week. In the Clippers' three other games he averaged 32.3 points, 16.7 rebounds and five assists, helping his team to a 3-1 week. He was dared to shoot the basketball (in an effort to keep him from dunking every time he touched the ball) and knocked down shots from the perimeter. He hit the glass with reckless abandon. As good as Griffin has been all year, he was better this week and, therefore is, once again, Ballin'.

    John Wall, Washington Wizards – 14.0 points, 5.2 rebounds, 11.5 assists, 1.3 steals

    It was a strange week for the Wizards, who lost to the Bucks and Suns (combined record: 36-47) and knocked off the Jazz and Celtics (60-27), but John Wall continued his strong play. The point guard posted three double-doubles in four games this week and is one of only five players averaging at least nine assists per game (the others are Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, Chris Paul and Deron Williams; not bad company to keep). In his matchup with Williams and the Jazz on Jan. 17, Wall had 19 points (on .583 shooting from the field), 15 assists and five rebounds in a 108-101 Wizards victory. Behind Wall's strong play, the Wizards (13-29 overall) are playing close to .500 (5-6) basketball since the New Year and are only four games back of the eighth and final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.

    Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons – 10.0 points, 8.5 rebounds, 1.3 steals

    After coming off the bench for the first two-plus months of the season, Greg Monroe has started each of the Pistons' last seven games and has taken advantage of the minutes he's been afforded, helping the 16-28 Pistons to a 4-3 record in that time. In Detroit's last ten games, Monroe is averaging 11.1 points, 9.4 rebounds and 2.0 steals per game, while shooting .603 (47-78) from the field. With the former Georgetown Hoya in their starting lineup the Pistons have gone 5-5 this season, meanwhile Detroit is 11-23 (.324) when Monroe comes off the bench. With a youth movement starting in Motown expect to see more of Greg Monroe on the basketball floor and in the Rookie of the Year watch.

    Ed Davis, Toronto Raptors – 6.2 points, 10.0 rebounds, .688 FG%

    With six players on the Toronto Raptors roster averaging at least ten points per game, Head Coach Jay Triano doesn't need rookie Ed Davis to do a lot of scoring. What the Raptors need from their rookie out of North Carolina is rebounding, defense and smart, efficient play on the offensive end. This week, Davis game them just those things. The 6-10, 215 lb., forward averaged just four field-goal attempts and only 6.2 points per game but dominated the glass and, in 109 minutes of action (27.3 per game) pulled down 40 rebounds. Davis hasn't committed a single turnover in nine straight games, a stretch of 211 total minutes. Despite his limited minutes (he is ninth in per game on the Raptors current roster), Davis leads the team blocks per game (1.0). This week he recorded the fourth double-double (11 points and 12 rebounds) of his young career in the Raptors loss to the Hornets on Jan. 17.

    Injuries have depleted the Boston Celtics front line this season, but Semih Erden's solid play exemplifies the team's tremendous depth, giving Coach Doc Rivers a solid contributor down low with Shaquille O'Neal, Jermaine O'Neal and Kendrick Perkins all battling injuries. This week, the 6-11, 240 lb., center from Turkey set or tied career-highs in rebounds (11), points (14), steals (three), offensive rebounds (four) and field-goals made (five). The 24-year-old big man helped the Celtics win two out of three games and had, arguably, the best game of his young career this week, scoring 14 points (on 5-5 shooting from the field and 4-5 from the free throw line), grabbing seven rebounds and swiping three steals with one blocked shot in the team's 110-86 win over the Utah Jazz on Jan. 21.

    Honorable Mention

    Paul George, Indiana Pacers – 9.5 points, 2.2 rebounds, .625 FG%

    Throughout the course of his young NBA career, Paul George has seen inconsistent minutes and this week was no different. What the 6-8, 210 lb., forward did with the minutes, however, was anything but inconsistent. The former Fresno State star scored a career-high 17 points (on 7-10 shooting) in the Pacers' 107-121 loss to Denver on Jan. 23.


    Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz – 5.0 points, 2.3 rebounds, 2.0 assists

    After failing to log a single minute in Utah's 103-95 loss to New Jersey on Jan. 19, Hayward averaged 25 minutes, 7.5 points, 3.5 rebounds, 3.0 assists, and one steal while shooting .667 from the field in two games (both losses) this week.

    Larry Sanders, Milwaukee Bucks – 6.0 points, 2.7 rebounds, 2.0 blocks

    Despite playing just two minutes in the Bucks win over the Wizards on Jan. 19, Sanders managed to posted respectable numbers this week, helping a struggling Milwaukee team to a 2-1 record. The former Virginia Commonwealth forward/center shot .533 (8-15) from the field in three games, and had 12 points, six rebounds and three blocked shots in 27 minutes of action against the Memphis Grizzlies on Jan. 22.

    Fallin'

    Wesley Johnson, Minnesota Timberwolves – Nothing of consequence

    After playing well to start the season, Johnson earned the first DNP-CD of his young career this week. The former Syracuse star went 0-5 from the field, 0-4 from the three-point line and 0-1 from the charity stripe in a 111-126 loss to the Clippers on Jan. 19 and hasn't scored in double-digits since a 10-point performance against the Charlotte Bobcats on Jan. 5. He is averaging 3.7 points in Minnesota's last seven contests.

    Al-Farouq Aminu, Los Angeles Clippers – 5.0 points, 2.2 rebounds
    In four games this week, Al-Farouq Aminu shot just .318 (7-22) from the field and.111 (1-9) from the three-point line. The forward out of Wake Forest has scored in double figures just once since Dec. 29.

    Eugene "Pooh" Jeter, Sacramento Kings – 2.3 points, 0.3 rebounds, 0.7 assists, .375 FG%

    While Pooh Jeter hasn't exactly set the world on fire in his rookie campaign, it was a particularly slow week for the point guard out of the University of Portland. In three games this week, Jeter had just seven points and two assists in 31 minutes of action while shooting .375 from the field.


    Rookie of the Year Race –Top 5 (Season Stats)

    1. (1) Blake Griffin – 22.8 points, 12.9 rebounds, 3.5 assists, .522 FG%, .600 3FG%
    2. (3) John Wall – 15.1 points, 3.8 rebounds, 9.2 assists, 1.8 steals
    3. (2) Landry Fields – 9.9 points, 7.1 rebounds, 1.1 steals, .517 FG%, .383 3FG%
    4. (4) DeMarcus Cousins – 13.0 points, 7.7 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.8 blocks
    5. (NR) Greg Monroe – 6.4 points, 6.0 rebounds, 0.8 assists, 1.0 steals .495 FG%
    Sweet
    Sittin on top of the world!

  • #2
    Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

    Blake Griffin's stats are intoxicating.

    No homo.


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    • #3
      Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

      Ed Davis's defense and rebounding appear to be translating much better than most people figured, and he's looking better than a lot of the bigs taken before him.

      Blake is absurd.

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      • #4
        Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

        One things for sure, PG and Tyler should be locks for the Rook-Soph Game.

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        • #5
          Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

          I'm telling you, Paul George is already flat out more talented than the shooting guards on our roster right now. That probably means he will play 15 mpg for the next three games, but oh well.

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          • #6
            Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

            Originally posted by BringJackBack View Post
            I'm telling you, Paul George is already flat out more talented than the shooting guards on our roster right now. That probably means he will play 15 mpg for the next three games, but oh well.
            He needs 20+ mpg every game for the rest of the season, period.

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            • #7
              Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

              Originally posted by cdash View Post
              He needs 20+ mpg every game for the rest of the season, period.
              I'll settle for that, my friend.

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              • #8
                Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                In the limited minutes Paul gets, he does so much in them.

                That's definitely the sign that he's going to be a special player.

                This is the co-star we've been looking for next to Danny.

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                • #9
                  Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                  The craziest thing about Blake Griffin, every month all his stats increase compared to the previous month, no exceptions.
                  17-11-2
                  21-12-3
                  23-14-4
                  27-15-5
                  This is rounded off. His minutes increased as well, but not as drastically.
                  Has this guy never heard of a rookie wall?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                    Originally posted by ballism View Post
                    The craziest thing about Blake Griffin, every month all his stats increase compared to the previous month, no exceptions.
                    17-11-2
                    21-12-3
                    23-14-4
                    27-15-5
                    This is rounded off. His minutes increased as well, but not as drastically.
                    Has this guy never heard of a rookie wall?
                    I went to the Clippers vs Warriors game in LA the other evening. Watching Blake in person is ridiculous. He put up 30-18-8, hit a clutch 3 pointer off an inbound with 2 seconds on the shot clock and 2 minutes left in the game to seal the victory, and threw down 2 MONSTER alley oops (including one reverse slam!) This dude is sick and will be an MVP in a few years if he keeps this up. Too bad he plays for the clippers.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                      Originally posted by ballism View Post
                      The craziest thing about Blake Griffin, every month all his stats increase compared to the previous month, no exceptions.
                      17-11-2
                      21-12-3
                      23-14-4
                      27-15-5
                      This is rounded off. His minutes increased as well, but not as drastically.
                      Has this guy never heard of a rookie wall?
                      his stamina is getting better he use to get tired faster now he doesnt

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                      • #12
                        Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                        Originally posted by IndySDExport View Post
                        I went to the Clippers vs Warriors game in LA the other evening. Watching Blake in person is ridiculous. He put up 30-18-8, hit a clutch 3 pointer off an inbound with 2 seconds on the shot clock and 2 minutes left in the game to seal the victory, and threw down 2 MONSTER alley oops (including one reverse slam!) This dude is sick and will be an MVP in a few years if he keeps this up. Too bad he plays for the clippers.
                        that 3pter was sexy he is gonna be a great shooter 1 day Eric Gordon played gritty in that game also

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                        • #13
                          Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                          Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                          that 3pter was sexy he is gonna be a great shooter 1 day Eric Gordon played gritty in that game also
                          He hit a 3 against the Kings when I went to see him play. It was hilarious because they just threw it to him not realizing the shot clock was about to expire. After he hit it he just put his hands up and looked at Del Negro and said "I dont know"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                            If the Clippers somehow make the playoffs, Griffin should be the MVP THIS YEAR.


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                            • #15
                              Re: Award Watch: Rookie of the Year(PG on da rise baby)

                              Originally posted by IndySDExport View Post
                              I went to the Clippers vs Warriors game in LA the other evening. Watching Blake in person is ridiculous. He put up 30-18-8, hit a clutch 3 pointer off an inbound with 2 seconds on the shot clock and 2 minutes left in the game to seal the victory, and threw down 2 MONSTER alley oops (including one reverse slam!) This dude is sick and will be an MVP in a few years if he keeps this up. Too bad he plays for the clippers.
                              That last triple was so ridiculously open. Didn't they know Blake's been amazing on long open Js? And Stephen Curry was amazing too, talk about a pretty nice draft class from 2009.

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