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    Him no longer being a Blazer makes it a loss.

    True, but It wasn't Pritchard who traded him.

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    True, but It wasn't Pritchard who traded him.
    But Bayless did nothing while Pritchard was there. If you're just basing things off of what happened with Pritchard involved, then the Bayless trade was a failure.
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    But Bayless did nothing while Pritchard was there. If you're just basing things off of what happened with Pritchard involved, then the Bayless trade was a failure.

    I can agree with that.

    I still think Bayless ends up as the best player involved in that whole deal.

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    Not entirely true. It wasn't free agent signing that built that team. That team was made through genius trades on draft day.

    He turned Randy Foye into Brandon Roy.
    He turned Tyrus Thomas and a 2nd round pick into Lamacrus Aldridge
    He turned Joey Dorsey and Darrell Arthur into Nicolas Batum
    He turned very minimal cash considerations into Rudy Fernandez
    He drafted Patty Mills with the 55th pick in the 09 Draft.
    but Paul Allen bought most of those draft picks.
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    but Paul Allen bought most of those draft picks.
    How do you figure? There was no cash involved in any of the draft day trades except for the Fernandez deal.
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    but Paul Allen bought most of those draft picks.

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    Myth of the genius GM continues. Several GM's have had great stretches, but they ALL make major screw ups and bad draft picks, given enough time.

    After a great run by Pritchard he eventually looked like a fool for drafting Oden, Dumars was called a genius for a few years, now looks like a fool for the decisions he's made for several years now. Jerry West was called a genius for years, til he left the comfort of the Lakers job and went to Memphis, then he looked like a moron. Heck good old Donnie Walsh was called a genius by a lot of people for some of the teams he built here in a small market, til a series of horrible drafts and trades.

    Anyway the list could go on and on, drafting, trades, team chemistry are all educated guesses (a crap shoot), always has been, always will be.

    Having said all that I'd love to take a chance on Pritchard, I don't think he would do any worse.
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    Nobody thinks more highly of Kevin Pritchard than Kevin Pritchard.
    Wrong. I think more highly of Kevin than he does. Hire him and maybe I'll be a fan again.

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    Man I hope Pritchard gets the job if Bird goes. Heck I even think it IS time for Bird to go and I'm a huge Bird fan. I just want a change at the top AND on the bench.

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    I would be absolutely thrilled if Pritchard gets the job here in Indy.

    I think as far as player moves go, Larry has done a nice job. However, if he does leave, I really hope Pritchard is the new man in charge.
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    Pritchard is the most overrated GM I've ever seen in my life. ESPN has built his resume up like crazy. I mean what has he done?

    He had a rich owner that let him buy picks from Sarver, the worst owner in the NBA (worse than Sterling IMO, constantly selling 1st rounders is inexcusable), which is where he gets alot of his rep from for whatever reason.

    Thomas for Aldridge? Foye for Roy? He was not the GM at that time, he was the assistant GM.

    He picked Oden over Durant. Which is semi-understandable, though Oden did have red flags about his health. In hindsight, this was a horrible pick. Rush for Bayless is pretty obviously (for most people) in our favor. None of his other picks have panned out or amounted to anything.

    He also screwed up the Darius Miles situation with his bravado and arrogance.

    In other words, he's done pretty much nothing. At BEST he's an average GM. He, like the Blazers as a team, got his rep from the ESPN hype machine.
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    So if we'd by chance get Pritchard here as our next GM, does anybody here think that he'll be able to get any of the top-tier talent in this upcoming free-agent class to come HERE?? Just a thought.......

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    I am very, very happy with Bird. I don't think many GMs have done a better job with their teams over the past few years.

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    I went to school with Kevin. Check his mug shot:


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    I am very, very happy with Bird. I don't think many GMs have done a better job with their teams over the past few years.
    I agree. He's put in a position for very good success. The only thing he has to do now is turn his pieces into talent, and players are out there.
    We need better than solid. No JJ Redicks, Andray Blatche, Mike Dunleavy type guys to have big roles on our team.

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    After a great run by Pritchard he eventually looked like a fool for drafting Oden, Dumars was called a genius for a few years, now looks like a fool for the decisions he's made for several years now. Jerry West was called a genius for years, til he left the comfort of the Lakers job and went to Memphis, then he looked like a moron. Heck good old Donnie Walsh was called a genius by a lot of people for some of the teams he built here in a small market, til a series of horrible drafts and trades.

    Anyway the list could go on and on, drafting, trades, team chemistry are all educated guesses (a crap shoot), always has been, always will be.

    Having said all that I'd love to take a chance on Pritchard, I don't think he would do any worse.
    At the time of the draft....I don't think that it was an automatic No-Brainer for every GM to pick Durant over Oden. 20-20 hindsight...yes, it's perfectly clear....but don't make it seem like anyone had a clue that Oden would suffer the level of injuries that we now know he has experienced on the day of the draft.
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    I went to school with Kevin. Check his mug shot:


    I remember about half the people in that line of pics.

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    At the time of the draft....I don't think that it was an automatic No-Brainer for every GM to pick Durant over Oden. 20-20 hindsight...yes, it's perfectly clear....but don't make it seem like anyone had a clue that Oden would suffer the level of injuries that we now know he has experienced on the day of the draft.
    This was before the draft.

    Monday June 18, 2007

    The team executive noted that "big guys always seem to have bad backs.'' But he did express concern about Oden's wrist. "The people I talked to said it was pretty serious,'' the executive said. "Sometimes the wrist never comes back.''

    I've also heard an unrelated rumor -- which did not show up in the Orlando physical -- that another team is expressing concern about the long-term health of Oden's knees.

    "We haven't heard anything about his knee,'' said agent Bill Duffy, who represents Oden in association with Mike Conley Sr. "One thing we are aware of is that his hip alignment is off. One of his legs is longer than the other, but he's obviously had that for a long time.''
    These things were said before the draft, and it's pretty much come true. These are the reason's I was claiming I'd have taken Durant #1. Not a popular opinion in Indiana at the time with Oden being from 20 minutes from my place.

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    I would like to see Pritchard slowly ease his way into that position the rest of the year as a "consultant". After the year is up, he assumes Larry's job and JOB does not get offered anything.

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    I would like to see Pritchard slowly ease his way into that position the rest of the year as a "consultant". After the year is up, he assumes Larry's job and JOB does not get offered anything.
    basically this.

    pritchard is an outside the box thinker evidently. he would make a nice addition to TPTB in charge of the pacers. sign him up.

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    I remember about half the people in that line of pics.
    I didn't know that class as well as my own, but I do too. Betsy's older sis Susan was very nice......

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    Asked a guy that I know who lives out in Portland, why Pritchard was fired. He follows the Blazers as closely as any of us follow the Pacers and this is what he said.

    "They never really said why he was fired, but some speculation was that he helped his buddy, Tom Penn, get a nice raise and promotion from the Blazers instead of losing him to Minnesota. Afterward it came out that Minnesota never gave Penn an offer, but Penn and Pritchard duped the Blazers (i.e. Paul Allen and Larry Miller) into thinking there was an offer.

    The other possible reasons cited were him falling too in love with 'his' players that he drafted and not being willing to trade them. Vulcan and Paul Allen, obviously will not give the full reason, but it looked as if the relationship had run it's course. He is a draft master, but I'm not sold that he would be able to make that next jump of taking those draft picks and selling high and turning those assets into a championship team."
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