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    Who do you think is going to get traded that NO one is talking about?

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    Good question...

    I think Cleveland is gonna blow up that squad, so pick a Cavalier...
    Minnesota is likely moving Corey Brewer, so thats a team to watch because Corey alone doesn't return much...
    Sacramento is trying to move Beno Udrih and Fransisco Garcia...
    Washington is trying to move Andray Blatche...
    Milwaukee would move Michael Redd and Corey Maggette...
    Clips have offered Baron Davis to a number of teams...
    Charlotte says they won't trade either Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace, but there is interest in both players...
    Indiana is trying to package Mike Dunleavy for a deal...
    Golden State has some big ending contracts and they want a real player...
    Philly says they are not going to trade Iguodala, but they have a ton of tradable guys like Marresse Speights...
    I think Memphis would trade Zach Randolph if it returns enough talent to insure a playoff berth.
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    Sort of makes sense with all the Dunleavy centric media pieces coming out lately. I think I'd be interested in a Dunleavy for Andre Blaytch deal of some kind.

    Or a blockbuster sending Dunleavy and Hibbert for JaVale McGee and their 1st round pick.
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    Those could be the most ambiguous answers to a question ever.

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    I posted something about this in another thread, but from what I've been told, nobody in the NBA is going to be pulling the trigger on any real big deals until after the Carmelo Anthony deal is finalized.

    Once Melo is moved, things will start to happen.

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    Sort of makes sense with all the Dunleavy centric media pieces coming out lately. I think I'd be interested in a Dunleavy for Andre Blaytch deal of some kind.

    Or a blockbuster sending Dunleavy and Hibbert for JaVale McGee and their 1st round pick.
    I'm sure Hibbert would love to continue paying for tickets for a group of fans to go watch a team he no longer plays for.

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    I'm sure Hibbert would love to continue paying for tickets for a group of fans to go watch a team he no longer plays for.
    Hmm, good point. That would be... awkward!

    In any case, even if he doesn't get traded...I wonder how long before area 55 starts showing up wearing paper bags over their heads.

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    I posted something about this in another thread, but from what I've been told, nobody in the NBA is going to be pulling the trigger on any real big deals until after the Carmelo Anthony deal is finalized.

    Once Melo is moved, things will start to happen.
    What if Melo digs his heals and ends up staying in Denver?

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    Then everyone sits with their thumb up their bum like morons while they let one 20-something control an entire league worth millions of dollars with or without him.

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    What if Melo digs his heals and ends up staying in Denver?
    He can choose to sign the Denver extension that is still on the table. But if he isn't willing to sign that, he is going to be traded. Denver is not just going to let his contract expire and not get anything for him.

    He doesn't hold all the cards. He can tell them that he isn't going to sign an extension anywhere but New York or something like that, but even if he does that, he will get traded somewhere. Denver will try to work out a deal with New York to maximize their return, but if they can't get something they want back, they will trade him for less return somewhere else as a rental with the possibility of still signing an extension at a later date.

    Basically what it comes down to is, he either signs the extension with Denver or he is getting traded. Those are the only two possible outcomes.

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    He can choose to sign the Denver extension that is still on the table. But if he isn't willing to sign that, he is going to be traded. Denver is not just going to let his contract expire and not get anything for him.

    He doesn't hold all the cards. He can tell them that he isn't going to sign an extension anywhere but New York or something like that, but even if he does that, he will get traded somewhere. Denver will try to work out a deal with New York to maximize their return, but if they can't get something they want back, they will trade him for less return somewhere else as a rental with the possibility of still signing an extension at a later date.

    Basically what it comes down to is he either signs the extension with Denver or he is getting traded. Those are the only two possible outcomes.
    Understood, but my concern is this gets dragged out and nothing happens until the week or day of the deadline. Does that risk killing a deal for us?

    I mean theoretically it doesn't have to, but what if both sides like a deal on January 19th, but after a month of thinking about it, one side gets cold feet? Maybe the player the Pacers were going to get starts performing better than they expected, and they decide to just keep him?

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    Understood, but my concern is this gets dragged out and nothing happens until the week or day of the deadline. Does that risk killing a deal for us?

    I mean theoretically it doesn't have to, but what if both sides like a deal on January 19th, but after a month of thinking about it, one side gets cold feet? Maybe the player the Pacers were going to get starts performing better than they expected, and they decide to just keep him?
    It is an understandable concern. It is certainly possible, but I think that most front offices already have their deals in mind. They just don't want to risk giving up the chance to get in on a potential blockbuster deal involving multiple teams and one of the league's best players.

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    I just love internet chat invterviews so that people can just spout what they think as opposed to any inkling of what is really going on.

    BTW 90'nba that is not a shot at you or for you at posting this, I just always find these article's amusing.

    I think I'll interview Uncle Buck about who should move around the NBA and post it.


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    the pacers would trade dunleavy for the right offer. they would trade anyone for the right offer. but i don't think the pacers want to trade just to trade. jmo, but pacers appear willing to let expiring deal expire instead of making an ordinary trade that doesn't make them better.

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    I posted something about this in another thread, but from what I've been told, nobody in the NBA is going to be pulling the trigger on any real big deals until after the Carmelo Anthony deal is finalized.

    Once Melo is moved, things will start to happen.

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    Sort of makes sense with all the Dunleavy centric media pieces coming out lately. I think I'd be interested in a Dunleavy for Andre Blaytch deal of some kind.

    Or a blockbuster sending Dunleavy and Hibbert for JaVale McGee and their 1st round pick.
    Blockbuster? I wouldn't trade Hibbert for McGee straight up.
    Here we come lottery?

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    Trade our MVP? Hell noooo........

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    I'd be agreeable to a Mike Dunleavy (10.6 mil) and Soloman Jones(1.5) for Andray Blatche(5.9) and Yi Jialian (4.0)deal which would work within the nba trade rules.

    Jialian's contract for 2011-12 is a team option . Blatche is well paid the next 4 years totalling 29.8 mil so he is very risky as far as salary. But he is only 24 and even with his percieved problems is averaging 16.3 ppg and 8.4 rpg and has still not reached his full potential.

    Blatche at 6'11 260 also can play center and blocks almost 1 shot a game , he would help Hibbert inside on defense better than any current Pacer bigman. His contract is not ideal but realisticly who can the Pacers sign this summer , who will not demand a very similar 4 year 30 mil deal to come here?

    His age fits well with the Pacers future building blocks.

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    I think I'll interview Uncle Buck about who should move around the NBA and post it.

    Better yet, ask him who the Pacers should trade and for whom. It should be more interesting and better reading than some of the player threads recently posted.

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    I'd be agreeable to a Mike Dunleavy (10.6 mil) and Soloman Jones(1.5) for Andray Blatche(5.9) and Yi Jialian (4.0)deal which would work within the nba trade rules.

    . . . His age fits well with the Pacers future building blocks.
    blatche would not be my first choice, as he is soft as NBA bigs go, but this trade would be ok with me.

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    I just love internet chat invterviews so that people can just spout what they think as opposed to any inkling of what is really going on.

    BTW 90'nba that is not a shot at you or for you at posting this, I just always find these article's amusing.

    I think I'll interview Uncle Buck about who should move around the NBA and post it.
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    I have a feeling we're gonna get a decent big man for Mike (and/or any other of our expirings) and our first round pick.

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    I have a feeling we're gonna get a decent big man for Mike (and/or any other of our expirings) and our first round pick.
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    I am not sure if the numbers would work at all, but I forsee some kind of trade for Speights as the most likely to occur since its another big body we could use next to Roy.

    I am not saying I want him particularly, I just do not know who else we could get without giving up more than we want.

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    Hell If Diamond Dave (the other one) would do Hibbert for McGee and a #1 . You could expand my other trade idea to be Hibbert, Dunleavy and S.Jones for Blatche, McGee and Jianlian.

    McGee would add the mobile shot blocking big the Pacers need , adding Blatche improves our pf/c rotation. Hibbert would be a fan favorite in DC.

    Blatche would make up for Hibbert's scoring and McGee and he are both still developing and would improve interior defense. Paul George would get Dunleavy's minutes.

    From the Wizards side they add a local fav in Hibbert who could blow up with them into an above average center , personally I still see Roy as a Rik Smits clone just below All Star level.

    Dealing for McGee would "potentially" give the Pacers the athletic , shot blocking center they need as they move forward . The Pacer big rotation of Blatche, McGee and Hansbrough would be an interesting trio.
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