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    What are some of the best young cores in the NBA today? Which teams do you think in 3-4 years will be contenders if they stick with their youth?(I did 25 and under.)

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    #1ThunderWe all know that drafting has really done these guys good, and being the youngest team in the league, they are a model for all small market teams.
    Westbrook, Maynor
    Harden, Cook
    Durant
    Green,
    Ibaka, Aldrich

    #2ClippersEveryone seems to be jumping on the Clippers band wagon, and there is plenty of room. The question always remains though, what will Mr. Sterling do? We have seen the Clippers in this position plenty, plenty, plenty of times, where they amass a great core of young guys, and then for some reason they are all gone by free agency, injuries or crazy trades.
    Bledsoe, Willie Warren
    Gordon,
    Al-Farouq Aminu,
    Griffen
    Jordan,


    #3?Pacers:As a team we are doing well getting guys in every position, if we can develop these guys, we should be contenders for years in the East
    DC, AJ
    Brush, Lance
    George
    Tyler, McBob
    Roy

    Wizards:With a few more lottery picks, and some playing time the wiz are making moves to build a contender also.
    Wall
    Young
    Yi
    Blatche, Seraphin
    McGee


    Raptors: This team seems to lose every all star they get, but through it all they have picked up some good young players, now they just need time and some more picks.
    Bayless
    DeRozan, Weems
    Klieza, Wright
    Ed Davis, Amir Johnson
    Bargnani


    Rockets This team really has a ton of talent, but like every year, they fail to win against the way better teams in the west, and they always have injury problems. On a good note, they have picked up some really good young talent to play behind their older guys.
    Brooks, Lowry, Ish Smith
    Lee, Twill,
    Budinger,
    Patterson, Hill


    GrizzliesThis team has done great on the drafting side, but only Rudy Gay has really panned out to his full potential, with Conley and Gasol showing some good game also, but none-the-less it hasn't transfered into many wins.
    Conley, Vasquez
    Mayo, Henry,
    Gay, Young, Carol
    Arthur,
    Gasol, Thabeet, Hadadi



    TWolves:So much talent, so little direction. This is one of those teams we will look back at, after these players have gone on to other teams and succeeded, and think what a waste.
    Rubio, Flynn, Telfair
    Wes Johnson, Webster, Ellington
    Beasley, Brewer, Hayward,
    Love, Tolliver
    Darko, Pekovic, Kosta


    Warriors:Just like always the Warriors are a talented team that seems to always just waste it.
    Curry, Lin, Law
    Ellis, Williams,
    Dorrell Wright, Udoh
    Brandan Wright,
    Biedrins


    Kings: They remind me of the wizards of the west, they are silently rebuilding, and will be a great team in due time.
    Evans
    Taylor
    Casspi, Greene
    Thompson, Jackson
    Cousins, Whiteside
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    Thunder followed by the Clippers

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    What's the frown for?

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    I think we saw one last night: Holiday, Evans, and Speights. Meeks is potentially a very good 6th man/Ben Gordon-type (offensive spark).

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    Whenver I look at this type of thing I only look at quality. Don't really care too much about players 4-6 on the lists above. Only care about 1-3

    The combo of Westbrook and Durrant are by far the best on that list, in fact they deserve to be compared with some of the best combos in the NBA - such as Lebron and Wade - that is how good they already are.

    I would put the Clippers second.

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    Whenver I look at this type of thing I only look at quality. Don't really care too much about players 4-6 on the lists above. Only care about 1-3

    The combo of Westbrook and Durrant are by far the best on that list, in fact they deserve to be compared with some of the best combos in the NBA - such as Lebron and Wade - that is how good they already are.

    I would put the Clippers second.
    Interesting comment. I agree with the Thunder-then-Clippers vote, but my statistical analysis from a couple years ago suggested that adding the 4th player (but not the 5th) to consideration in predicting regular season records was (marginally) worthwhile.

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    I'd also add Evans, Cousins, Casspi in Sacto as a good young core.

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    I'd also add Evans, Cousins, Casspi in Sacto as a good young core.
    GS also

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    Thunder followed by Clippers. Pacers aren't too far behind.... we just need the right motivator.
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    Twolves should be on here



    Beasly,Love,Flynn,Wes, Rubio

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    What are some of the best young cores in the NBA today? Which teams do you think in 3-4 years will be contenders if they stick with their youth?(I did 25 and under.)

    Pacersof course)As a team we are doing well getting guys in every position, if we can develop these guys, we should be contenders for years in the East
    DC, AJ
    Brush, Lance
    George
    Tyler, McBob
    Roy

    Wizards:With a few more lottery picks, and some playing time the wiz are making moves to build a contender also.
    Wall
    Young
    Yi
    Blatche, Seraphin
    McGee


    Raptors: This team seems to lose every all star they get, but through it all they have picked up some good young players, now they just need time and some more picks.
    Bayless
    DeRozan, Weems
    Klieza, Wright
    Ed Davis, Amir Johnson
    Bargnani


    Rockets This team really has a ton of talent, but like every year, they fail to win against the way better teams in the west, and they always have injury problems. On a good note, they have picked up some really good young talent to play behind their older guys.
    Brooks, Lowry, Ish Smith
    Lee, Twill,
    Budinger,
    Patterson, Hill


    GrizzliesThis team has done great on the drafting side, but only Rudy Gay has really panned out to his full potential, with Conley and Gasol showing some good game also, but none-the-less it hasn't transfered into many wins.
    Conley, Vasquez
    Mayo, Henry,
    Gay, Young, Carol
    Arthur,
    Thabeet, Hadadi


    ThunderWe all know that drafting has really done these guys good, and being the youngest team in the league, they are a model for all small market teams.
    Westbrook, Maynor
    Harden, Cook
    Durant
    Green,
    Ibaka, Aldrich

    ClippersEveryone seems to be jumping on the Clippers band wagon, and there is plenty of room. The question always remains though, what will Mr. Sterling do? We have seen the Clippers in this position plenty, plenty, plenty of times, where they amass a great core of young guys, and then for some reason they are all gone by free agency, injuries or crazy trades.
    Bledsoe, Willie Warren
    Gordon,
    Al-Farouq Aminu,
    Griffen
    Jordan,

    Why did you leave out Marc Gasol? I like Memphis with Gay, Gasol, Mayo, and Conley. They have a very young and inexperienced bench. The owner should have kept his nose out of drafting Thabeet at #2 when there was much better talent available to choose. Practically, every player drafted after Thabeet is a better player than Thabeet. A case could be made that a dozen 2nd round picks are better. What a waste of a #2 pick in a good draft!!

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    I like the Grizzlies. Conley has really improved this season, and Gay is becoming a star.

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    I like the Grizzlies. Conley has really improved this season, and Gay is becoming a star.
    Yeah, I do too. Gay is already a star.

    I know PG is a little smaller than Rudy, but I think that is a good comparison for where George could eventually be someday. We can only hope.

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    Yeah, I do too. Gay is already a star.

    I know PG is a little smaller than Rudy, but I think that is a good comparison for where George could eventually be someday. We can only hope.
    Gay has the wingspan of a condor and can jump out of the gym, but PGeorge has hops too and is about the same size otherwise:

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Gay-34/
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-George-5688/

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    hahah so PG is wayy better than Gay 4 sho

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    1. Okc
    2. Clipps
    3. Minnesota
    4. Memphis
    5. Sacto

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    I'll go:

    1. OKC
    2. Clippers (The front office and ownership will ever make anything of it though.)
    3. Grizzlies
    4. Pacers
    5. Timberwolves (I guess)

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    6. GS
    7. Washington
    8. Portland
    9. Chicago
    10.Detroit
    11.Pacers

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    6. GS
    7. Washington
    8. Portland
    9. Chicago
    10.Detroit
    11.Pacers
    ...And that is why I don't take you seriously. You had to add five other teams when others were generally making a top five (including yourself) to try to take a little jab at Bird. Not only is that a jab at Bird, but you are trying to make buzz for the hell of it. I understand if you really and truly feel that way, but the only reason you did that is to try to undermine our talent and players, not to make a true assesment.
    We need better than solid. No JJ Redicks, Andray Blatche, Mike Dunleavy type guys to have big roles on our team.

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    Miami, Chicago, and Oklahoma City would be 1, 2, and 3 for me.

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    ...And that is why I don't take you seriously. You had to add five other teams when others were generally making a top five (including yourself) to try to take a little jab at Bird. Not only is that a jab at Bird, but you are trying to make buzz for the hell of it. I understand if you really and truly feel that way, but the only reason you did that is to try to undermine our talent and players, not to make a true assesment.

    It's not a jab at anyone. It's an honest assessment of what our "young core" really is. I'd venture to say that most non Pacers fans would share that same opinion. Same with most professional NBA pundits and "experts".

    Unfortunately reality sucks sometimes

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    It's not a jab at anyone. It's an honest assessment of what our "young core" really is. I'd venture to say that most non Pacers fans would share that same opinion. Same with most professional NBA pundits and "experts".

    Unfortunately reality sucks sometimes
    Out of curiosity, what is your beef with Bird in the first place? Since Donnie left, I think he's done a very good job. Hibbert, George, AJ, & Rush were all good picks. Hans is starting to coming around. Lance could be a steal for a 2nd rounder. The JO trade, DC trade, and Rush trade all worked out in our favor against the other teams. The Granger extension was solid when you look at some of the other deals tossed around (Iggy, JJ, etc).

    Considering he inherited mariginal players with huge deals, he's done a very good job IMO.

    We can't hold him accountable for any moves while Donnie was here b/c we simply do not know who pulled the trigger on what. Plus, Donnie would have to sign off on everything as he sat atop the chain of command.
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    There is a difference between reality and "reality".

    "Reality" being stretching the truth to support an opinion.
    We need better than solid. No JJ Redicks, Andray Blatche, Mike Dunleavy type guys to have big roles on our team.

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    Out of curiosity, what is your beef with Bird in the first place? Since Donnie left, I think he's done a very good job. Hibbert, George, AJ, & Rush were all good picks. Hans is starting to coming around. Lance could be a steal for a 2nd rounder. The JO trade, DC trade, and Rush trade all worked out in our favor against the other teams. The Granger extension was solid when you look at some of the other deals tossed around (Iggy, JJ, etc).

    Considering he inherited mariginal players with huge deals, he's done a very good job IMO.

    We can't hold him accountable for any moves while Donnie was here b/c we simply do not know who pulled the trigger on what. Plus, Donnie would have to sign off on everything as he sat atop the chain of command.



    My beef is that we've been a rudderless ship for 6 years running now. Bird has stood pat and done nothing to really change the fortunes of the franchise. Sure he has drafted OK for being in the mid teen each and every year. Problem is that we've had NO BUSINESS being in the mid teens for 7 years.

    The way the NBA is set up right now. The worst place to be is 10-14. Yet it's exactly what we've planned on being for 5-6 consecutive years.

    At some point a reasonable man would have realized the core wasn't good enough. We should have stockpiled young assets and picks. This thing is still years of building away from being a contender. And far too many people are in complete denial about that fact.

    Nobody should get Credit for Standing Pat and being awful. Yet somehow Bird is the Teflon man of the NBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoops_guy View Post
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    There is a difference between reality and "reality".

    "Reality" being stretching the truth to support an opinion.

    On a cell phone without spellcheck. I apologize profusely got the typo

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