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    Default Pacers/Kings/Bobcats

    Pacers trade: Mike dunleavy, 2011 top 3 protected first rounder, 2012 swap
    Pacers get: 2011 unprotected Kings first rounder

    Pacers projected wins ( trade machine): -3

    Kings trade: 2011 First rounder
    Kings get: Gerald Wallace,option to swap first round picks with Pacers in 2012

    Kings projected wins: +2


    Bobcats trade: Gerald Wallace
    Bobcats get: Mike Dunleavy, 2011 top 3 protected Pacers pick

    Bobcats projected wins: +1



    Kings pick is projected as #2 pick. Pacers only give up dunleavy and most likely a mid round pick in a not-so-good draft and a potential swap in 2012.
    We could possibly get Perry Jones, Jerad Sullinger or Kanter without giving up Granger.

    Kings want to win now even though they are sucking. Most Kings fans agreed that they would trade their 2011 1st rounder for Gerlad Wallace.

    Bobcats are looking to move Wallace to free up cap space. They do this while getting a productive player in dunleavy and a draft pick.

    I would think with all the cap space in the offseason and a new coach that we could make a run in the playoffs next year ( assuming no lockout). So the 1st rounder wouldnt be as important.


    Future lineup:

    Collison/Price
    George?/Rush/Lance
    Granger/George/D. jones
    Perry Jones or Sullinger/ Hansbrough
    Hibbert/ Josh McRoberts

    ^^^ This isn't even considering the $30 million in cap space and we still have second round pick. So you could possibly sit on some of this money until the summer of 2012 and persue a top free agent or restricted free agent ( Eric Gordon?) to fill the starting SG spot. If George is ready, move him to the 3 and trade Danny ( yeah I dont like it either much) for young guys and picks.


    2012-2013

    Collison ( possibly be a top 5 point guard by then)/ Price
    Eric Gordon/ Rush/Lance
    George or Danny/ free agent
    jones or sullinger/ Hansbrough
    Hibbert ( should be an all star once he bulks up and gets back on track/ McRoberts

    also we should save some moeny to extend Collison, George, Hibbert, Rush.

    I like to plan ahead.


    also the Bobcats arent being choked by the Luxury tax anymore. Kings get help now ()

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    Default Re: Pacers/Kings/Bobcats

    no way in hell DC will be a top 5 pg. This is the era of the pg there are a lot of really good ones.

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    Unless if they can find someone to take on Beno's contract I don't think Sacramento is going to do this.

    I'd take his contract if it means a top three pick.

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    Default Re: Pacers/Kings/Bobcats

    I dont think the kings would trade thier pick this yr it is pretty valuable

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    no way in hell DC will be a top 5 pg. This is the era of the pg there are a lot of really good ones.
    okay then, top 7

    Paul, Williams, rondo, rose, maybe wall , westbrook . then what other really good point guards are left? Nash is probably going to regress as he is getting older or retire by then. same with JKidd.

    and I would take Beno's or Garcia's contracts if if meant a top 3 pick. This draft is loaded with tons of talent in the top 5.

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    I dont think the kings would trade thier pick this yr it is pretty valuable
    If it means they are getting a player who could help then now while getting rid of Garcias or Beno's contract while givin up just the pick. I'm pretty sure they would do it or at least consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacersalltheway10 View Post
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    and I would take Beno's or Garcia's contracts if if meant a top 3 pick. This draft is loaded with tons of talent in the top 5.
    Yeah I'm sure we'd have to do that.

    So perhaps

    To IND:
    Kings pick
    Beno

    To SAC:
    Wallace
    Pacers pick 2012

    To CHA:
    Dunleavy
    1st round pick
    Someone else of value

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacersalltheway10 View Post
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    okay then, top 7

    Paul, Williams, rondo, rose, maybe wall , westbrook . then what other really good point guards are left? Nash is probably going to regress as he is getting older or retire by then. same with JKidd.


    and I would take Beno's or Garcia's contracts if if meant a top 3 pick. This draft is loaded with tons of talent in the top 5.


    Jrue Holiday

    steph Curry

    Tony Parker

    Tyreke Evans (Combo guard)

    Aaron Brooks

    Mike Conley(this yr is playing great)

    Devin Harris

    Ty Lawson

    Rodney Stuckey
    there are others that are close. Some of these are very debateable

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacer4ever View Post
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    Jrue Holiday

    steph Curry

    Tony Parker

    Tyreke Evans (Combo guard)

    Aaron Brooks

    Mike Conley(this yr is playing great)

    Devin Harris

    Ty Lawson

    Rodney Stuckey
    there are others that are close. Some of these are very debateable
    You seriously call them elite point gaurds? none of those are elite or ever will be. They are all scoring point gaurds who do not have the court vision DC does. True DC is a scoring pg too but he can at least rack up assits and find the open guy better.

    These guys cannot even put up the numbers DC did last year on bad teams except for Parker. DC nearly averaged 20 and 10 on a bad team last year. Most of these players are on bad teams and barely get above 15 and 5. DC will breeze by them once JOB is gone.

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    It would be more valuable for the bobcats to get the pick of the kings than the pick of the pacers. Moreover, they don't need Dun, while a back up PG like beno might help them.

    So the bobcats and the kings don't need the pacers for this deal and it might become :

    To SAC:
    Wallace
    bobcats pick 2012

    To CHA:
    Beno
    kings 1st round pick 2011

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    The bobcats have made it clear that they do not want extra salary. Beno is overpaid and 2 years left, Garcia has 3 years left. Plus mike dunleavy is a sf and a good stop gap for them. if they took your deal they would be stuck in lt land for the next 3 years and the pick might not even turn out. it looks good on paper but not if you are trying to cut salary for the future. Plus the cost of a top 5 pick is a whole lot higher than a #10 pick once you sign the pick

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    okay then, top 7

    Paul, Williams, rondo, rose, maybe wall , westbrook . then what other really good point guards are left? Nash is probably going to regress as he is getting older or retire by then. same with JKidd.

    and I would take Beno's or Garcia's contracts if if meant a top 3 pick. This draft is loaded with tons of talent in the top 5.

    Felton and Augustin are both having good years. Then there is former Allstar J Nelson. Your wishful thinking is a little much.

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    These guys cannot even put up the numbers DC did last year on bad teams except for Parker. DC nearly averaged 20 and 10 on a bad team last year. Most of these players are on bad teams and barely get above 15 and 5. DC will breeze by them once JOB is gone.

    AND there is NO guarantee DC will ever be able to duplicate those #'s ever again even with a new coach. Not to mention you are discounting other PG's getting better, but DC stepping his game up. Your optimism is nice, but maybe a little misplaced to the sound of homerism.

    No one has mentioned Jennings, and I'm sure the Bucks fans feel he's better than DC and probably a top 10 PG. Bottom line there are numerous good PG's out there that are better than DC. That's not to say DC isn't a nice young talent. It will be interesting to see how things turnout down the road.

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    Felton and Augustin are both having good years. Then there is former Allstar J Nelson. Your wishful thinking is a little much.
    How could i forget about Felton and Jennings and DJ(solid pg but not great)

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