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    Default Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    I saw this on hoops hype today... the main article is in spanish, but the part of interest has been traslated to englsih:

    "Fabricio Oberta: I was hopeful I could go to the NBA this year because they were talking about Sacramento, Indiana, and Utah. They were interested and there were some negotiations."

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    EL GIGANTE ARGENTINO



    "También queremos el Mundial"


    La ambición de Fabricio Oberto no tiene límites. Mientras disfruta de la medalla de oro, además de mirar a Estados Unidos desde arriba, el cordobés pide un año de descanso y plantea el próximo objetivo del grupo.



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    Por la fractura en la mano derecha se perdió la final y sufrió mucho pese a la victoria en semi. "Me quedaban dos opciones: disfrutarlo o amargarme", cuenta a una semana de la hazaña.


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    Tras cuatro días en Valencia, donde provocó envidia por la medalla de oro y se realizó estudios en la lesionada mano derecha, los primeros pasos en el hall de Ezeiza le dieron a Fabricio Oberto una muestra de lo que el básquet había generado en nuestro país. "¡Cómo lo puteaste al negrito!", le grita un remisero. "Parece que esta vez me hice famoso por eso", acepta. Con camarita en mano, se le acerca un turista alemán, que se presenta en inglés y pide unas palabras del héroe. "Saludos para Nowitzki", le dice con tonada cordobesa.

    —¿Cuando llegaste a Valencia recibiste sólo felicitaciones o también ligaste algún reproche por la lesión en la mano?

    —Felicitaciones. Lo de la lesión fue mala suerte. Al día siguiente operaron al Ratón Ayala y comentaron los dos casos en toda Valencia, pero el fútbol provoca más controversias que nosotros. A mí no me dijeron nada. Llevaba cinco años sin perderme un partido. ¡Justo el que me vengo a perder!

    —Si te aseguraban que iban a ganar la de oro te hubieras fracturado las dos manos...

    —Sí, seguro, ningún problema. Pero en las finales siempre tenemos lesionados. Ya nos había pasado con Manu en Indianápolis.

    —Por lo menos estuvo un rato en cancha. ¿Cómo aguantaste la final con Italia en el banco?

    —Estaba desesperado. El peor momento fue apenas después de la lesión. Mucha calentura. En el vestuario estaba con una cara... Y eso que habíamos pasado a una final olímpica. Me quedaban dos opciones: disfrutarlo o amargarme. En esos casos todo el equipo se preocupa por hacerte sentir como si jugaras a full. Sí, me perdí ese partido, pero arranqué contra Estados Unidos y jugué el cruce con Grecia... Si la lesión hubiera sido contra China, por nombrar uno de los primeros, cambiaba todo. Porque me quedaba afuera de la mejor parte.

    —¿Cuando fue el manotazo de Marbury te diste cuenta enseguida de que había sido una lesión grave y que encima había sido de mala leche?

    —Enseguida supe que me había roto un dedo. Después de mi primer tiro, cuando agarré la pelota del otro lado y salté de nuevo, no daba más del dolor. Por eso el tiro fue para cualquier lado. Ahí le dije a Pila (NdeR: el médico del seleccionado) que me había roto. Ya me había pasado en la otra mano hace un tiempo. Esta vez no tuve dudas porque hubo un crack grande como una casa.

    —¿Lo viste clarito a Marbury?

    —Sí, lo vi bien. Yo estaba un poquito caliente, por eso las puteadas, pero son cosas del juego. Lo que pasa es que después nos cruzamos dos veces más. Y el vago no me dijo nada. Ni una pregunta para ver cómo andaba. Menos una disculpa. En mi caso, después de haber chocado con un jugador, lo llamé por teléfono y le aclaré mi buena intención. Fue demasiado fuerte. Aunque no sé si con la idea de lesionar.

    —¿Nadie de Estados Unidos te fue a hablar luego del partido

    —Al otro día, Larry Brown me dijo que lo sentía mucho, nada más. Fue entrando al vestuario en el entretiempo de la final. Yo estaba con la cabeza en otra cosa.

    —Después de la final, a pesar de la mano rota, le llevaste una cerveza a Magnano delante de las cámaras y te fumaste un habano con Wolkowyski en el festejo. Dicen que fuiste de los más descontrolados...

    —Y... Era para festejar. Se disfruta muchísimo la sensación de ser el mejor equipo. Cuando termina un torneo y encima ganaste el título, somos todos iguales a la hora de festejar. Eso también habla del grupo. De la relación de los jugadores con el cuerpo técnico.

    —¿Por la lesión sumaste más ansiedad que el resto y descargaste todo en los festejos?

    —La ansiedad la descargamos en el podio. Ahí nos terminamos de relajar. Tremendo. La sensación de tener a los americanitos abajo nuestro... Eso se disfruta mucho.

    —¿Qué fue lo primero que pensaste al final de ese partido?

    —Se me cruzaron recuerdos. De los buenos y de los malos. Partidos que perdimos con el grupo...

    —¿De cuáles te acordaste?

    —De ese increíble que perdimos en el Mundial Sub 22 (NdeR: la semi ante Australia en el 97, con tres puntos de ventaja y un libre a favor, a 48 segundos del cierre). De la final del último Mundial... Ahora nos toca a nosotros estar arriba. Tenemos que disfrutarlo.

    —¿Y por qué llegaron al oro?

    —Como viene haciendo en los últimos años, más allá de que en el Mundial mostramos lo mejor de nuestro juego, el equipo siempre aparece en los partidos importantes. Eso nos da confianza. En la zona no hicimos un gran juego, pero en los cruces defendimos duro y lo mejoramos mucho.

    —¿Después de las derrotas con los españoles y los italianos hablaron entre ustedes para ir con todo al cruce decisivo?

    —Era el sentimiento de todos. Nos conocemos hace mucho... Sólo fue decir: "Acá empezamos a jugarnos nuestro futuro en el torneo". Este equipo, desde el Premundial de Neuquén, tiene la costumbre de jugar por cosas importantes y pelear siempre arriba. Cada uno sabe bien su función.

    —¿Le diste algún consejo a Scola antes de que ocupara tu puesto de titular en la final?

    —No. Más que darle consejos, es para sentarse tranquilo y disfrutar de su juego. Luis tuvo un torneo espectacular. No sé qué más tiene que demostrar... Entra con un deseo de ganar que te contagia. El equipo me dio tranquilidad más allá de los nervios de la final.

    —¿Y el futuro? Manu dijo que varios necesitan descanso. ¿Influye la clasificación directa para el Mundial del 2006?

    —Es importante. Creo que va a influir en algunas decisiones. Pero hasta que no llegue la convocatoria del cuerpo técnico no se sabe nada... Retiro todavía es una palabra demasiado grande para mí. Aunque creo que no me va a venir mal un año para hacer la pretemporada completa y estar bien con mi equipo desde el principio.

    —¿Lo hablaron con Magnano?

    —No hablamos con Rubén sobre eso. Hay que ver en el momento.

    —¿Pero se juntan para Japón?

    —Esperemos. Faltan dos años... Tampoco es mucho tiempo. Pero siempre puede haber cambios.

    —Demostraste tus condiciones de NBA en otro torneo. ¿Ya dejaste atrás ese capítulo?

    —Las puertas siguen abiertas. Tengo ganas de intentar el salto. Pero tampoco es que en cada partido contra Tim Duncan y los muchachos de Estados Unidos necesite salir a demostrar algo...

    —No por eso solamente. Hace rato te ganaste una chance...

    —Sí. Todo lo que pueda hacer para demostrar que juego en el mismo nivel es una motivación. Después, si se tiene que dar, que así sea. Yo no me hago más mala sangre con eso. Este año me hice más ilusiones porque se hablaba de Sacramento, de Indiana y de Utah... Hubo equipos interesados y algo de negociaciones. Pero después fue igual que antes.

    —¿La medalla de oro no pesa?

    —Los títulos te hacen ganar más nombre. Veremos qué pasa... Esta temporada también es importante porque con Valencia no anduvimos tan bien en la última liga. Tengo esa presión extra. Me gusta jugar con esa responsabilidad. Espero dar la talla con el equipo.

    —¿Pero qué te falta ganar?

    —Quedan varias cosas. Euroliga...

    —No falta nada de Selección.

    —Por suerte vengo bastante bien.

    —¿O quieren ganar el Mundial?

    —¡También! Falta eso. Porque van a decir que este equipo no fue campeón mundial. Es la ambición que nunca te falta. Siempre queremos un poquito más."

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    Yo Hablo espanol muy mal

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    Anybody know a good translator they could plug that into.

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    Tevenness four days in Valencia, where it caused envies by the gold medal and it was made studies in the injured right hand, the first passages in the hall of Ezeiza gave to Fabricio Oberto a sample him of which básquet had generated in our country "How puteaste to the negrito", it shouts a remisero to him. "It seems that this time I became famous for that reason", it accepts. With camarita in hand, a German tourist approaches to him, who appears in English and requests words of the hero. "Greetings for Nowitzki", tonada says to him with Cordovan.

    -- When you arrived at Valencia you received only congratulations or also you bound some reproach by the injury in the hand?

    -- Congratulations. The one of the injury was bad luck. On the following day they operated the Ayala Mouse and they commented both cases in all Valencia, but soccer causes more controversies than we. To me they did not say anything to me. It had been five years without losing a party to me. Right the one that I come to lose!

    --Si assured to you that they were going to gain the one of gold you had fractured the two hands...

    -- Yes, surely, no problem. But in the end always we have injured. It had already happened to us with Manu in Indianapolis.

    -- At least it was awhile in field. How you held the end with Italy in the bank?

    -- He was desperate. The worse moment was hardly after the injury. Much fever. In clothes it was with a face... And that that we had happened to an Olympic end. I had left two options: to enjoy it or to make bitter to me. In those cases all the equipment worries about hacerte to feel as if you played full. Yes, I lost that party, but I started against the United States and I played the crossing with Greece... If the injury had been against China, to name one of first, it changed everything. Because I had left outside of the best part.

    -- When he was manotazo of Marbury you immediately occurred to account of that had been a serious injury and that above had been of bad milk?

    -- Immediately I knew that there was broken a finger to me. After my first shot, when I took hold the ball across and I jumped again, it did not give more of the pain. For that reason the shot was for any side. There I said to him to Battery (NdeR: the doctor of the selected one) that had to me broken. He had already happened to me in the other hand a time ago. This time I did not have doubts because there was crack great like a house.

    -- it clearly dresses It to Marbury?

    -- Yes, I saw well. I was just a little bit hot, for that reason the puteadas ones, but they are things of the game. What happens is that later we crossed ourselves twice more. And the vague one did not say anything to me. Nor a question to see how it walked. Except an excuse. In my case, after to have hit a player, I called it by telephone and I clarified my good intention to him. He was too strong. Although I do not know if with the idea to injure.

    -- Nobody of the United States went to speak to you soon of the party

    --Al another day, Larry Brown said to me nothing else that it felt much. It went entering clothes entretiempo of the end. I was with the head in another thing.

    -- After the end, in spite of the broken hand, you took a beer to him to Magnano in front of the cameras and you smoked a habano with Wolkowyski in festejo. They say that of you were uncontrolled...

    --Y... It was to festejar. The sensation is enjoyed very many being the best equipment. When a match finishes and above you gained the title, we are all equal ones at the time of festejar. That also speaks of the group. Of the relation of the players with the technical body.

    -- By the injury you added more anxiety than the rest and unloaded everything in the festejos?

    --La anxiety we unloaded it in podio. There we were finished relaxing. Tremendous. The sensation to have to the americanitos ours down... That enjoys much.

    -- What was first that you thought at the end of that party?

    --Se crossed memories to me. Of the good ones and the bad ones. Parties that we lost with the group...

    -- which you remembered?

    Of that incredible one that we lost in the World-wide Sub 22 (NdeR: semi before Australia in the 97, with three points of advantage and a free one to favor, 48 seconds of the closing). Of the last end of the World-wide one... Now it is called on us us to be above. We must enjoy it.

    -- and why they arrived at gold?

    -- Since it comes in the last doing years, beyond which in the World-wide one we showed the best thing of our game, the equipment always appears in the important parties. That gives confidence us. In the zone we did not match great, but in the crossings we defended hard and we improved much.

    -- After the defeats with the Spaniards and the Italians they spoke between you to go yet to the decisive crossing?

    -- Era the feeling of all. We know ourselves long ago... It only was to say: "Here we began to gamble our future in the match". This equipment, from Premundial de Neuquén, has the custom to play by things important and to fight always above. Each one knows well its function.

    -- you gave some advice Him to Scola before he occupied your position of titling in the end?

    --No. More than to give advice him, it is for seating calm and enjoying its game. Luis had a spectacular match. I do not know what more must demonstrate... It enters with a desire to win that it infects to you. The equipment gave tranquillity me beyond the nerves of the end.

    -- and the future? Manu said that several need rest. It influences the direct classification for the World-wide one of the 2006?

    Important --Es. I believe that it is going to influence in some decisions. But until it does not arrive the call of the technical body does not know anything... Retirement still is a too great word for me. Although I believe that it is not going to me to come a year badly to make the preseason complete and to be well with my equipment from the beginning.

    -- they spoke It with Magnano?

    --No we spoke with Rubén on that. It is necessary to see at the moment.

    -- But they are joined for Japan?

    -- We hope. They lack two years... It is not long time either. But always it can have changes.

    -- Demostraste your conditions of NBA in another match. You already left back that chapter?

    -- the doors follow open. I have desire to try the jump. But it is not either that in each party against Tim Duncan and the boys of the United States need to leave to demonstrate something...

    --No for that reason only. Short while ago you gained one chance...

    -- Yes. Everything what can make to demonstrate that game in the same level is a motivation. Later, if it must give, that thus is. I do not become worse blood with that. This year I became more illusions because it was spoken of Sacrament, Indiana and Utah... There was interested equipment and something of negotiations. But later it was just as before.

    -- the gold medal nonweight?

    -- the titles make you gain more name. We will see what happens... This season also is important because with Valencia we did not walk so well in the last league. I have that extra pressure. I like to play with that responsibility. I hope to give the stature with the equipment.

    -- But what you need to win?

    -- Quedan several things. Euroliga...

    --No lack nothing of Selection.

    -- Luckily I come enough good.

    -- Or they want to gain the World-wide one?

    -- Also! Lack that. Because they are going to say that this equipment was not world-wide champion. It is the ambition that never you need. We always want just a little bit more rights reserved

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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    I guess the only real question is: would you want Oberto on the Pacers?
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    Who the hell is he? I'm assuming he played in the Olympics, but past what? Who is he? Is he a C? A SG? Something else?

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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    He was the Argentinian who got injured in the game versus the United States...

    He plays F/C... I found this information online:

    http://www.eurobasket.com/ESPplayer.asp?PlayerID=19693

    URL: www.fabrioberto.com
    Born: March 21, 1975 in Las Varillas (ARG)
    Full name: Fabricio Raul Jesus Oberto
    110kg / 242lbs
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    Outlook:
    a very good rebounder, who can play both the 4 and th 5 position; good low post player, but doesn' t have the bulk to play at center, and his ideal role is the power forward, where he should improve shooting range;
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    Career:
    1995-1996: Atenas de Cordoba (1T)
    1996-1997: Atenas de Cordoba (1T)
    1997-1998: Atenas de Cordoba (1T)
    1998-1999: Olympiakos Pireus (GRE)
    1999: called at a tryout by the New York Knicks in the summer, but he could not attend due to an injury (a broken bone in a hand)
    1999-2000: in Aug.'99 signed by Tau Vitoria (ESP), got sick in Mar.'00 and did not play for almost 2 months: 9.1ppg, 3.7rpg
    2000-2001: Tau Vitoria (ESP): 9ppg, 6.1rpg, 1.2apg, FGP-1(67.9%): Euroleague: 10.9ppg, 7.4rpg
    2001-2002: Tau Ceramica Vitoria (ESP): ACB Regular Season stats: 32games: 11ppg, 6.3rpg, 1.5apg, 1.2spg
    2002-2003: Pamesa Valencia (ESP): ULEB Cup: 10games: 12,4ppg, 4.7rpg, 1.2apg, 3.4bpg; Spanish ACB League: 34games: 12.7ppg, 5.2rpg, 2.0apg, 1.3bpg, 1.3spg
    2003-2004: Pamesa Valencia (ESP-ACB): Euroleague: 18games: 13.3ppg, 5.6rpg, 2.3apg; Spanish ACB: 39games: 11.5ppg, 5.5rpg, 1.7apg
    2004-2005: Pamesa Valencia (ESP-ACB)
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    Awards/Achievements:
    Argentinean National Team -96-04
    Olympic Games -96
    Argentinean League Best Sixth Player -97
    Argentinean Under22 National Team -97
    World Championships Under22 -97
    World Championships -1998: Reb-2(10.4)
    Goodwill Games -97
    Best Argentinean Player -98
    Euroleague FinaFour -99
    Greek League Finalist -99
    ULEB Euroleague Finalist -01
    Eurobasket Spanish ACB All-Defensive Team -01
    Eurobasket Spanish ACB All-Bosman Team -01
    Spanish ACB FinalFour -01
    Tournament of the Americas (Copa America) –01(Champion), 03
    Spanish Cup (Copa del Rey) Winner -02
    Spanish ACB Champion -02
    World Championships in Indianapolis (USA) -02
    Eurobasket All-Europe Imports 2nd Team 2002
    ULEB Cup winner -03
    Spanish ACB Finalist -03
    Olympic Games in Athens -04



    He has his own site at http://www.fabrioberto.com/home.htm

    which is way cool, Right now its only in Spanish.
    (so only go there if you can read spanish, because i'm not going to translate the whole thing for you ;-)
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    http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletebi...49/detail.html

    Back from a break
    After competing in the 1996 Games but failing to qualify in 2000, Argentina -- and power forward Fabricio Oberto -- are back in the Olympics. It's Oberto's second Games after he competed as a 21-year-old in Atlanta.


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    Fabricio Oberto helped Argentina end Team USA's 58-game international winning streak at the 2002 World Championships in Indianapolis.
    Giant killer
    Oberto opened the eyes of NBA scouts with his performance at the 2002 World Championship in Indianapolis where he helped Argentina to a silver medal. He was second on the team in scoring (13.3 ppg), shooting an astounding 73.2 percent from the floor. He also led his squad in rebounding (5.6 rpg), and almost single-handedly won the gold-medal game against Yugoslavia with superstar Emanuel Ginobili suffering from an ankle injury as he scored 28 points and grabbed 10 rebounds against Yugoslavia. However, Argentina blew a late lead and lost in overtime. He also played a large role in Argentina's win over the U.S. in pool play -- America's first-ever loss in international play with NBA players -- as he scored 11 points and grabbed nine rebounds, including a series of baskets in the fourth quarter to put the Americans away.

    Argentine ace
    One of the few remaining players from the 1996 Olympic team that finished Ninth, Oberto also averaged a double-double as a 23-year-old at the 1998 World Championship in Athens. There, Argentina placed eighth as he averaged 12.3 points and 10.4 rebounds per game. At the 2003 Americas Olympic qualifying tournament, he was third on the team in scoring (11.7 ppg) and rebounding (3.2 rpg) and tied for third in assists (2.6 apg). Argentina finished second to qualify for Athens.

    Starring in Spain
    Oberto has played professionally in Spain since 1999 after playing a season in Greece. He spent the last two seasons with Valencia, and in 2003-04 he averaged 11.5 points and 5.3 rebounds per game. His teammates in Valencia included Argentina national teammate Alejandro Montecchia, Serbia and Montenegro's Dejan Tomasevic and for part of the season, NBA point guard Robert Pack.
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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    about who the heck this is since I didn't really watch the olympics much and if I did I'd probably be focusing on Ginobili

    Is he that good?


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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    While he isn't the bulky C that we need, he would provide a decent backup for JO.

    The spurs are looking to have 2 argentinians on their roster for next season, better get em while their hot :P

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    If he can play with the same ability, fire, and determination as he did on the Argentinian National Team during the Olympics, then get him signed right away.

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    "Argentinian center Ruben Wolkowyski is hopeful things can be worked out soon and he can return to the NBA with the Indiana Pacers."

    "They are telling me they have to send Scot Pollard to Atlanta before they can sign me," Ruben Wolkowyski said."

    http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pag...p?pagId=826662

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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    I think the part about the "non-guaranteed" contract is what is most interesting, I can hardly see why we would sign this guy, avg shooting % = 30 and about 1 rb per 5 minutes (defensive) shoots but never hits a 3pt, is only 6.10" and hardly a "beast".

    There is better available for cheap I would say, but guaranteed contracts at the minimum would be given to "proven" dimwits first me thinks.
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    I haven't gotten it well translated yet, but the link unstandable just posted also says we're trying to dump Pollard to Atlanta to trim salary, and if we do we'll sign him. At least that's what it looks like to me, someone else try to translate and confirm that.

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    Default Re: Rumor: Indy talked to Oberto?

    Oh, wait, yeah I got that right, but I was thinking it's Oberto. Now this one is talking about Ruben Wolkowyski.

    So, who the hell is he? lol

    http://www.pacersdigest.com/cgi-bin/...d=1;gtid=90831

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