Items of note:
Items of note:
Solution to Hibbert shooting jumpers poorly: stop having him shoot jumpers. Play him in the damn post.
Another question: Is Hibbert's effectiveness in the post a result of him only choosing good opportunities in playing in the post- or just an overall barometer of his individual success in the post regardless of situation?
I've been saying forever we dont need Roy taking 20 ft jump shot not a high % shot.
Guy's there is nothing wrong with mixing it up. Pat Ewing was money from 17 feet on the baseline making him a b!tch to guard. I don't mind Roy putting up a shot from outside on occasion just to keep the defense honest.
However the biggest problem is that other teams have learned to keep Roy off of the box in the lane.
This is due to the fact that Roy has a very high center of gravity & little to no lower body strength.
Someone somewhere somehow has got to teach Roy to overcome this.
number two has nothing to do with the hands of either Smits of Roy - it just seems as though Roy and Rik both are/were easy to front, easy to knock the ball away........regardless in each case it is difficult to get the ball to them in decent position. Rik in his later years became more and more of a pick and pop player.
I remember the pacers having some very creative plays in order to get Rik the ball in the low post, but we don't run those with Roy.
I'm not sure if Roy can be taught how to do what you are suggesting, maybe he can become better at it, but I think it will always be a problem for him as it was for Rik
Last edited by Unclebuck; 01-07-2011 at 04:33 PM.
Why not set plays that boil down to the ball being reversed while simultaneously the PF screens Roy's man so Roy can cut across the paint to where the ball is being reversed, where it is promptly fed to him?
Pacers used to run a play back in the late 90's where Reggie would in effect curl around Rik who was stationed in the low post - it was effective because it made the big guy be in help position or Reggie could curl around Rik into the lane and get an easy shot - we could certainly run that play with either Mike or Danny and I think it would be effective.
Hicks, the only problem with running a big on big pick and the reason why most teams don't run a big man big man screen is because it is easy to switch for the defense. Watch the Jazz, they have their point guard pick across the lane and that doesn't allow the defense to switch because they don't want their point guard guarding a big in the low post
Last edited by Unclebuck; 01-07-2011 at 04:42 PM.
In addition I think foot speed and personnel are factors as well.
I wished we had more of these type of discussions instead of either a stats overload or a discussion of just how bad O'Brien is. Seems like we used to have a lot more of these type threads. T-Birds been gone for awhile though
Last edited by Unclebuck; 01-07-2011 at 04:53 PM.
I'm not sure if I want Hibbert to get slower. The data already suggests that he's poor at the PnR.
Ideally we just find the 4 that can play PnR with Collison and also play in the paint and can command enough attention that Hibbert has an easier time in the post.
Perhaps we will see that tonight with the use of Hansbrough. Hansbrough is a decent midrange shooter and does a very good job of keeping the ball alive on the offensive glass. I think most teams would counter that by focusing a little more on him than they would on McRoberts.
If RH could consistently hit the midrange shot- say 14-18 ft - that would be a major weapon for us. It does not have to take away from his post opportunities. The two can complement each other.
If he can do this, it becomes difficult for opponent's to match him with someone of his size. Plus, I think UB's Smits comparison is a good one, and we know that the Smit's shooting ability really created a dimension that allowed him to achieve the level of play he did.
As the scouting report notes, his FT shooting would indicate he can develop an effective midrange game. Then, if you locate a strong offensive post 4, they work even better together.
I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-07-2011 at 05:34 PM.