reading about how bad a coach JOB is. how if he was fired, a new system, suddenly all our pacer players would suddenly improve and magically the pacers would become a 60 win team. maybe not 60 wins but much much better. that strikes me as silly thinking.
but maybe you all are right. maybe it is JOB. but to be sure I thought it might be fun to look at our players and see where they fall in the pantheon of NBA players at each position.
danny granger. danny is either a top 5 or top 10 SF. I think we all agree at that. LeBron James, Carmello Anthony, Kevin Durant, Paul Pierce, maybe Gerald Wallace and maybe Rudy Gay are better. but danny is a top player.
roy hibbert. early in the season, I though roy was a top 10 center. not so sure any more. players that are better: Dwight Howard, Joakim Noah, Brook Lopez, Al Horford, Nene [maybe], Chris Kamen [maybe], Andrew Bogut, Al Jefferson, Andrew Bynum, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, Marc Gasol [maybe], Tyson Chandler [probably not], JaValle McGee [maybe], Greg Oden [who knows]. the way he is playing now, you could add guys like Demarcus Cousins to the list. there are enough guys here to say that roy is no more than an average starting center in the NBA.
Josh McRoberts. josh is probably the worst starting PF in the NBA right now. certainly in the bottom 5. if someone wants to find 5 legit starting PF that are worse than josh, be my guest. I don’t think there are 5.
Brandon Rush/Mike Dunleavy. below average. Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Stephen Jackson, Aarin Afflalo [???], Ben Gordon, Richard Hamilton, Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, Eric Gordon, Kobe Bryant, OJ Mayo[ probably not], Dwayne Wade, John Salmons [???], Wesley Johnson [ probably not], Jason Richardson, Andre Iguodala, Evan Turner [???], Vince Carter [???], Brandon Roy [???],Emanuel Ginobili, again, there may be guys I left out or should not have put in, feel free to edit the list, but there have to be at least 20 guys better at the SG position which puts Rushleavy in the bottom third of the league. definitely below average.
Darren Collison. at the start of the season, I hoped this guy was going to be a top 15 guy. not sure that is true. Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups, Stephen Curry, Baron Davis, Brandon Jennings, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Steve Nash, Tyreke Evans, Tony Parker, George Hill, Deron Williams and John Wall are definitely better. Mo Williams [???] , Aaron Brooks [???], Kyle Lowry [???], Mike Conley [???], Jameer Nelson [???], Gilbert Arenas [???], Jrue Holiday [???], Andre Miller [probably] are maybe/maybe not better. my list makes Darren just below average and if any of the maybes are really better, that puts him into the bottom third.
, no wonder the pacers suck. right now, our players are not very good. I do not think any coach, including larry brown, could win with this bunch. to have more wins, the pacers need better players, or the player they have now have to get much much much better.