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    Ebenezer Samuel ,Daily News Sports Writer

    Monday, January 3rd 2011, 4:46 PM

    Sipkin/NewsLance Stephenson (c.) has had plenty of time to sit and smile on the Pacers' bench, as the former New York schoolboy star has yet to log a minute in the NBA.
    Pace for NewsStephenson was allowed to wear the uniform during his days at Lincoln. He was back in Madison Square Garden, on the same hardwood floor that he once considered home.

    Except Sunday, Lance Stephenson didn't even step onto the court. The former Lincoln HS star and two-time Daily News High School Basketball Player of the Year sat on the sideline in street clothes, watching as his Indiana Pacers fell to the Knicks, 98-92.

    "I'm learning a lot and just trying to take it day by day," said Stephenson, who is not on the Pacers' active roster. "I'm just taking this year as a learning experience."

    Not that Stephenson's had any other option. The leading scorer in New York state high school hoops history was chosen by the Pacers with the 40th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft - just one pick after the Knicks selected Landry Fields.

    But while Fields has emerged as New York's starting shooting guard and drawn raves around the league, Stephenson hasn't even cracked the Pacers' rotation. He has yet to log a minute as he's struggled to learn the intricacies of NBA basketball.

    O'Brien said Stephenson is "a product of numbers," trapped behind a trio of more experienced guards in Darren Collison, T.J. Ford and A.J. Price. But the player who earned the nickname "Born Ready" at Rucker Park is also further from a finished product than most people expected.

    The Pacers thought they might have a draft-day steal when Stephenson fell to them in the second round after a solid but unspectacular freshman year at the University of Cincinnati. Instead, they've landed a player who admits that he doesn't understand the nuances of NBA defense.

    Stephenson is also having trouble adjusting to being a playmaker after spending his entire high school career as a primary scorer at Lincoln HS.

    In early December, Pacers president of basketball operations Larry Bird even suggested sending Stephenson down to the NBA Developmental League.

    "He has to work on everything," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said of Stephenson. "All our defensive schemes and everything."

    Those shortcomings help explain why the Knicks steered clear of Stephenson in the Draft. He was projected by many as a late first-round pick, but slipped into the second round and was available for the Knicks, who owned the 38th and 39th picks. New York considered Stephenson, and GM Donnie Walsh met with the guard personally, but the team settled on Syracuse sharpshooter Andy Rautins at No. 38, then grabbed the underrated Fields at No. 39.

    "He was definitely one of the guys we were looking at," Walsh said of Stephenson. "But we had a pecking order. (Fields) and Rautins were at the top of the pecking order.

    "I personally think he's better off in Indiana," Walsh added. "He can start his NBA career not being in New York."

    Stephenson carved his high school legacy in the Big Apple, but the city was also the site of most of his missteps. He had an altercation with a classmate midway through his junior year at Lincoln, and he was arrested for groping a 17-year-old girl at the school as a senior.

    When he returned to New York in August, after he was drafted, he was arrested after allegedly pushing his girlfriend down the stairs of her Brooklyn apartment building.

    Stephenson declined to comment on those charges, which are pending, but he also stayed away from Coney Island when the Pacers arrived in town late Saturday night, a sign that the Pacers believe he's beginning to mature.

    "I certainly hope so," O'Brien said.

    Stephenson hopes his NBA career will amount to more than a collection of DNPs and stints on the inactive list.

    He said he's approaching his rookie campaign like a "redshirt year," and he understands that he's far from NBA-ready.

    "This is another level of basketball," Stephenson said. "So I've just got to learn as much as possible."



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    I really hope that Lance can keep his crap together for the sake of himself, others, and the Pacers. It seems as if he has open arms for the team and he takes basketball seriously as anyone, but he needs to make a lot of sacrifices including accepting that he isn't a kid anymore and he works for a business.

    He's not the "issh" anymore, he's a scrub kid in a man's game. That's the main transition he has to make.

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    He's with the wrong coach (and the wrong system) if he ever expects to get any PT. Another project that will be sent to another team in a couple of years. Bummer.

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    If he can mature and hopefully stay out of trouble, when we get the right coach here I think he can thrive.

    When he played in the preseason, it was clear that he was lost defensively. Fortunately that can be fixed.
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    He's with the wrong coach (and the wrong system) if he ever expects to get any PT. Another project that will be sent to another team in a couple of years. Bummer.
    please can we have one thead without the mention of the coach. I think that has been stated mutiple times that he is with the wrong coach and system I think we get it.

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    I don't think he will ever make it. But I am rooting for him.
    "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

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    There are plenty of players in the league with offensive talent with no defense. I'm pulling for Lance though. Just have to keep your head on straight and keep working at your craft. He's surrounded with a lot of smart basketball players, hopefully he's asking questions and they are working to make him better.
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    Hmmm. I actually liked what he had to say. With the right attitude, he has a chance to stay on an NBA roster. He might even bring some productive minutes at some point.

    I still can't see him defending an NBA starting guard, but I say give him his day in court...and if found innocent, give him his day on court.

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    *sigh*

    It would probably really help him adjust if he didn't have to play out of position. (And for the record, thats on Bird, not JOB)

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    There are plenty of players in the league with offensive talent with no defense. I'm pulling for Lance though. Just have to keep your head on straight and keep working at your craft. He's surrounded with a lot of smart basketball players, hopefully he's asking questions and they are working to make him better.
    and some of them are stars or starters who play a lot.

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    This dude has all the talent in the world and just needs some discipline and patience. I think the Pacers biggest mistake was to try and mold him into a point guard during the offseason. You have to let players develop their strengths to an NBA level. Thats gives them the confidence that they can tackle other parts of the game to become a more complete player. They were asking this kid to learn how to run the team before he even scored a point in the NBA. I get the appeal, you look at him and say, he has the Size, handles, the 2nd gear, and the athleticism of guards like Rondo, Rose and Westbrook. But the kid has only been asked to do one thing in his young Basketball career. Thats score the ball.

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    and some of them are stars or starters who play a lot.
    Kevin Martin immediately comes to mind.

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    Kevin Martin immediately comes to mind.
    monta ellis 2 but monta gets steals at least. Thats more than Martin can say.

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    This dude has all the talent in the world and just needs some discipline and patience. I think the Pacers biggest mistake was to try and mold him into a point guard during the offseason. You have to let players develop their strengths to an NBA level. Thats gives them the confidence that they can tackle other parts of the game to become a more complete player. They were asking this kid to learn how to run the team before he even scored a point in the NBA. I get the appeal, you look at him and say, he has the Size, handles, the 2nd gear, and the athleticism of guards like Rondo, Rose and Westbrook. But the kid has only been asked to do one thing in his young Basketball career. Thats score the ball.
    I like Lance, but even I'm....


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    I am pulling for the kid, and we have to remember he is still a kid, to spend this year working on his game in practice situations. I don't see us having as many wings next year so hopefully he can fit in the system then and be a productive player. We all know that the kid can score and that he has very impressive size and athleticism. Maybe a one on one training similar to what happened with Roy over the summer would do him good. Maybe having that defensive specialist work with him a month or so would help him improve his lack of defense.

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    I am pulling for the kid, and we have to remember he is still a kid, to spend this year working on his game in practice situations. I don't see us having as many wings next year so hopefully he can fit in the system then and be a productive player. We all know that the kid can score and that he has very impressive size and athleticism. Maybe a one on one training similar to what happened with Roy over the summer would do him good. Maybe having that defensive specialist work with him a month or so would help him improve his lack of defense.
    That would be nice. Spending a couple of weeks with Jordan would be nice. Wonder if Jordan and Bird are good friends that that could happen.

    That's one good thing about having Bird as your GM, he's likely to be friendly with a lot of ex-great players and can probably get some extra tutelage done for some of our players.
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    *sigh*

    It would probably really help him adjust if he didn't have to play out of position. (And for the record, thats on Bird, not JOB)
    no Shhhhh
    There is absolutley nothing in his game that says"Hi I am a PG"

    Once again defining all logic , he plays PG in summer league and is viewed as the "4th PG"

    Whats next AJ Price at SF, to stretch the floor?

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    Hmmm. I actually liked what he had to say.
    Agreed. The red-shirt comment was exactly what you want to hear out of a second-round pick.
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    being a "red-shirt" this year is the best thing that could happen to Lance

    he has something to prove to the franchise......he has something to prove to the rest of the league for being a 2nd round pick in the draft.......and next year he'll essentially be playing for a contract since 2nd round picks are not guaranteed after their 2nd year pro

    his bad attitude and brash personality will hopefully be cut down to size after this year is up

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    I like Lance, but even I'm....

    Are you saying the kid isn't athletic? He has an NBA ready body just like the afore mentioned Allstar PGs. He just needs alot of polish.

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    Are you saying the kid isn't athletic? He has an NBA ready body just like the afore mentioned Allstar PGs. He just needs alot of polish.
    At this point he's more Jamison Brewer than Rondo/Rose/Westbrook.
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    being a "red-shirt" this year is the best thing that could happen to Lance
    I'm sure he's fine with red. He's probably hoping he's not wearing an orange jump suit in a few months.

    Seriously though, I recall Shawne Williams coming out with some decent statements to the press in the early days. In any event, I'm going to wait for the verdict and give the guy a shot. I expect he will disappoint either on or off the court, but he has one more card to play with me.

    Not saying I would have ever drafted a nearly guaranteed head ache...

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    At this point he's more Jamison Brewer than Rondo/Rose/Westbrook.
    Jamison Brewer? Maybe the link is that both were supposedly going to revolutionize the PG position only to find out they couldn't play it in D league. Maybe the link is that neither fit an NBA position.

    Otherwise, he's about the opposite of Jamison. Jamison was very thin and quick. A stiff breeze might land him on his butt. Lance is built like a tank and moves like one too.

    Lance should sign with the Colts if he's cut...

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    Jamison Brewer? Maybe the link is that both were supposedly going to revolutionize the PG position only to find out they couldn't play it in D league. Maybe the link is that neither fit an NBA position.

    Otherwise, he's about the opposite of Jamison. Jamison was very thin and quick. A stiff breeze might land him on his butt. Lance is built like a tank and moves like one too.

    Lance should sign with the Colts if he's cut...
    he might have the Devin Hester problems where he cant learn the plays. But he would make a hell of a Line Backer if he would of started in grade school. Or a TE / WR

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    Are you saying the kid isn't athletic? He has an NBA ready body just like the afore mentioned Allstar PGs. He just needs alot of polish.
    Nope. I'm in between "not athletic" and "Rondo/Rose/Westbrook athletic". We can disagree without being at opposite extremes.

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