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    Default O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    Hibbert is out of the starting lineup today

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    O'Brien breaking out small ball. Collison, Rush, Dunleavy, Granger and Foster starting vs the Knicks

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks

    Are you freakin' kidding me?
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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks

    I know things have been bad lately for Roy but it really seemed like things were getting better as of last game. Why let him go through that putride stretch only to seemingly start to come around as of last game and then yank him. True, Amare probably would have field day against Roy and he most likely will against Jeff too. I thought it was said that Roy will be out there despite the matchup this season? Guess we should be used to this by now.

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks

    To be honest, Hibbert has been playing like absolute crap. However, I thought we were done with allowing match-ups to determine if he starts or not.

    I'm torn on this decision. You need to let Roy grow out there and make mistakes, but how bad must he play before you teach him a lesson? This should serve as a wake-up call.

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks

    The Knicks usually go small and are good offensively.

    Gallinari starts at PF so Danny might be a stopper there, but I don't know why Jim would put Roy on the bench against Amar'e.

    Yeah he's been struggling, but he's our answer at center and a huge piece to this team's future. Even if he is struggling, you don't put one of your best players on the bench.

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    hey look at the bright side.... paul george is the first to come off the bench!!!

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    To be honest, no one should be suprised. He reaps what he sows so I hope this comes back to bite him in his ****ing *** soon.
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    We need better than solid. No JJ Redicks, Andray Blatche, Mike Dunleavy type guys to have big roles on our team.

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    Ugh, I've really had it with this coach.

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    Doesn't seem that unreasonable of a lineup against the Knicks. NY doesn't have a center. They start a point guard, a shooting guard, two small forwards and a power forward.

    Amare would be a very difficult defensive assignment for Roy, and I don't know whether Roy could make up for it on the offensive end.

    One could argue that McRoberts would be better choice at starter than Foster, but I don't think it's a clear choice either way. McRoberts will probably get plenty of court time anyway.

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    Doesn't seem that unreasonable of a lineup against the Knicks. NY doesn't have a center. They start a point guard, a shooting guard, two small forwards and a power forward.

    Amare would be a very difficult defensive assignment for Roy, and I don't know whether Roy could make up for it on the offensive end.

    One could argue that McRoberts would be better choice at starter than Foster, but I don't think it's a clear choice either way. McRoberts will probably get plenty of court time anyway.
    foster is gonna get killed on pick and rolls

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    Any lineup that doesn't start Roy is unreasonable

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    Where's ATC?

    We need a game thread.

    EDIT: Nevermind.

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    Roy's had such a lousy time lately that I can't bring myself to get upset.

    With that said, Jeff could still get torched anyway, so this might not help.

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    O'Brien must have a short memory. Stoudamire could have scored 80 points against Foster two years ago if he wanted to.

    He had 49 points on 17-21 shooting.
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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    wait jeff gets 2 games where he doesnt even dress to being a starter?? lol

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    I wonder if Foster still has nightmares from when Amare imprinted Spalding on his forehead en route to putting up a 50 spot.


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    Anyone really surprised? Jim ran home to mama about 15 games ago.

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    O'Brien must have a short memory. Stoudamire could have scored 80 points against Foster two years ago if he wanted to.

    He had 49 points on 17-21 shooting.

    Including throwing a dunk and his crotch right in Foster's face on a play that was a microcosm of the whole evening. All of us getting teabagged by Amare Stoudamire
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    I don't anticipate, during the course of the season, uh, starting out a game with Roy on the bench....we'll try to do exactly what you're saying, which is make people deal with him."
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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    Let's be honest: Neither Jim nor us expected Roy to have such a crappy December.

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    Just want to point out that the lineup worked. How dare our coach try to win

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    Default Re: O'Brien going small vs. Knicks - DC, Rush, Mike, Danny, Foster

    We gave up 30 points and lead by 2. Hooray.

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    You might win a game or two by adjusting your lineup but it takes consistency to win...consistency.

    Every decision has pros and cons both short term and long term. As a coach you have to weigh those out when making a decision. You also have to consider what perspective the decisions are being based on.

    I think that Jim could care less about next year. He probably feels like his team has to win and at least get to the playoffs to secure his job. This is why he goes for the quick fixes.

    With that said I completely disagree with taking Roy out of the starting lineup. I think that it is clear that you want him to be the starting center here for a long time and he has given good reason to back that up. The alternatives are not any better. You have to show confidence in him and work with him. Plus this might have a negative impact on his performance down the road this season.

    Every player goes through a slump especially a younger one. I believe in sticking with them is best for the long term.

    Jim isn't thinking about the long term though. He wants to win now. Not just win now as in this year but win now as in today.

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