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    People are hilarious; http://dimemag.com/2010/12/all-we-wa...ist-for-santa/


    Even the richest man in the world wants something else. And when an opportunity like Christmas pops up on the calendar, that rich man isnít shy about asking. And if that rich man has an influential role in running an NBA franchise, now is the time to turn those requests into results.

    As the season reaches the two-month mark, the haves are distancing themselves from the have-nots, and yet all of them need something. Here are five NBA teams whose wish lists to Santa Claus have been revealed:

    New York Knicks ó Anthony Randolph-Man action figure (replacement)
    Clearly the one Donnie Walsh had shipped express from Oakland is defective. The instructions said youíre supposed to give Randolph-Man a fresh start and watch him dominate, but so far this shiny new toy has been a bust (2.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 8.0 mpg). But thatís why youíre supposed to keep the receipt. So Iím sure as soon as the Knicks get their replacement model, the Stretch Armstrong look-alike with springs in his legs and special fly-swatting hand action will be the Shawn Marion of this Ď06-07 Phoenix Suns formula New York is trying to put together.

    Detroit Pistons ó George Blaha ďMeasures and MakesĒ Chemistry Set
    While the Pistons have depth, coach John Kuester doesnít seem to have any idea how to use it effectively, and the players arenít doing him any favors with their resistance to buy into a team concept. Five Pistons ó Rodney Stuckey, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Charlie Villanueva, Ben Gordon ó are averaging double figures in scoring, and just as many Pistons (if not more) are the victims of inconsistent playing time and uncertainty about their roles. The team has talent, but if they donít get it together, itís going to be another Lottery season.

    Los Angeles Lakers ó 2 tickets, Gary Payton Basketball Camp
    Not for any of the Lakersí players, but for GM Mitch Kupchak and coach Phil Jackson. Maybe they can scour the campís roster of Gloves-in-training and find somebody capable of defending a point guard.

    Cleveland Cavaliers ó Winning Lottery ticket
    Iím pretty sure the Cavs arenít trying to tank this season, if only because (1) owner Dan Gilbert is still under the delusion he can hand LeBron James his comeuppance, and (2) there isnít a future superstar on LeBronís level waiting for them in the 2011 NBA Draft. That said, the Cavs wouldnít mind if some Lís now translate to Dukeís Kyrie Irving, UNCís Harrison Barnes or Baylorís Perry Jones later. Maybe even hometown hero Jared Sullinger of Ohio State. But maybe we donít wanna go down that road again.

    Oklahoma City Thunder ó Roy Hibbert
    As much as you have to admire GM Sam Prestiís patient approach to building a contender, at some point you have to strike while the iron is hot and capitalize on the prime years of your superstars. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook are each only 22 years old, but donít assume they have 10 years of bright future ahead: Once upon a time Shaq and Penny Hardaway were each only 23 years old, and the Orlando Magic are still looking for that championship they were supposed to win together. OKC has almost all the pieces for a legit title run, most notable missing a center who can score, defend the paint and go head-up with guys like Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard and Tim Duncan and not get embarrassed. I usually donít advocate trades that hurt my favorite team, but Roy Hibbert just seems like a perfect fit for OKC. Would the Pacers ever go for a trade with any of the pieces OKC has to offer? Hell no. But what is Christmas about if not asking for things youíre probably not going to get?


    What does your favorite team need from Santa Claus?
    "Did we learn anything?"-Jonathan Ames

    "No, but thats okay, It's a good thing to stay in the dark about things - it keeps life more interesting."- George Christopher


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    James Harden and 2 1st rounders? I'd have to think about it if I were the Pacers. Gotta do something other than stand pat and pick 10-14 every single year.

    Get busy getting better or tear down and rebuild.

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    James Harden and 2 1st rounders? I'd have to think about it if I were the Pacers. Gotta do something other than stand pat and pick 10-14 every single year.

    Get busy getting better or tear down and rebuild.
    Another mediocre SG and two picks in the 22-30 range for Roy? Pass.

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    James Harden and 2 1st rounders? I'd have to think about it if I were the Pacers. Gotta do something other than stand pat and pick 10-14 every single year.

    Get busy getting better or tear down and rebuild.
    You'd trade Hibbert for James Harden and two very late twenties picks?

    Even Jim O'Brien is questioning your logic with that one.

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    Another mediocre SG and two picks in the 22-30 range for Roy? Pass.
    QFT.

    I wouldn't mind taking Harden in other circumstances, but him and two low-round firsts for our starting center just doesn't compute. However, Harden can do his thing at the perimeter (although, 39% from 3p, above the league average), which would appease O'Brien, but we'd be giving up on a project that is still very much in progress.

    Besides, we'd probably try to take someone like Cole Aldrich to make up for Roy's loss, which is .
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    All I have to say is "meh".
    Lance + Starting SG = Awesome

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    roy hibbert means as much to this team as kevin durant means to them

    **** off oklahoma city

    i hate that team
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    roy hibbert means as much to this team as kevin durant means to them

    **** off oklahoma city

    i hate that team
    No. Not even close.
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    No. Not even close.
    we arent trading roy and they arent trading those guys

    im not talking about the players being better im talking about how much there teams like them
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    Another mediocre SG and two picks in the 22-30 range for Roy? Pass.

    Every trade isn't going to be a slam dunk win. Its about stockpiling assets and shooting for a window where you can compete. The Bird "strategy" of adding 1 player per year isn't leading this franchise anywhere. If you could trade the assets we have in house (Hibby,Granger,Collison,Expiring deals) and stockpile some young players (21 year old Harden for example) and picks. The NEXT GM could probably build something worthwhile going forward.

    Or we can just wait for Tyler and McRoberts to turn into Kevin McHale 2.0 and 3.0

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    It should be noted that okc has a lotto protected pick coming from the clips in 2012...

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    Every trade isn't going to be a slam dunk win. Its about stockpiling assets and shooting for a window where you can compete. The Bird "strategy" of adding 1 player per year isn't leading this franchise anywhere. If you could trade the assets we have in house (Hibby,Granger,Collison,Expiring deals) and stockpile some young players (21 year old Harden for example) and picks. The NEXT GM could probably build something worthwhile going forward.

    Or we can just wait for Tyler and McRoberts to turn into Kevin McHale 2.0 and 3.0
    True, but this is awful from any perspective. I'd think about it if they threw Ibaka in the deal...for a second, before turning it down. Centers are too valuable. And you certainly don't replace good ones with much easier to get 2-guards.

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    aaronb, no matter what Larry does you won't approve of it.

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    I know Roy is in a slump, but he's a very good NBA center, and we'd do well to consider him untouchable. I remember being uber-frustrated with Rick Smits before he turned it on later. We trade Roy Hibbert for a pu-pu platter, we will regret it immeasureably.

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    It should be noted that okc has a lotto protected pick coming from the clips in 2012...
    So if team A (clippers) owes team B (okc) a 2012 lotto protected pick, but team A ends up in the lottery, when does team B receive their pick?

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    it depends on the protection placed on the pick.

    for instance, the #2 overall pick Detroit got from memphis in 2003 was from a deal they made when the grizzlies were still in vancouver, in 1998. It kept getting protected every year until their luck ran out.

    In OKC's case, the Clippers pick is top 10-protected until 2016, when it becomes unprotected.
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    Can we add: Jim O'Brien to the Miami Heat:

    With Mike Miller struggling from 3 and James Jones coming back to Earth, the Miami Heat need players that can stretch the floor, they do one better and get a coach that likes to stretch no matter the roster. This also mean less wear and tear for Miami's Big 3 down the road.

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    Durant would look good in Blue and Gold. Maybe we could trade them Jim O'Brien, James Posey, Mike Dunleavy and TJ Ford. 4 for 1 deal.
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    it depends on the protection placed on the pick.

    for instance, the #2 overall pick Detroit got from memphis in 2003 was from a deal they made when the grizzlies were still in vancouver, in 1998. It kept getting protected every year until their luck ran out.

    In OKC's case, the Clippers pick is top 10-protected until 2016, when it becomes unprotected.
    Wow I had no idea that was where Detroit got their 2003 pick from. It looks like 5 years is the standard time they protect picks for. There is a decent chance the clippers pick in 2016 will end up as a lotto pick for okc. I'd say 60% chance as of today.

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    well, it isn't fully lotto protected, only top-10. I think the Clips are well on their way out of the bottom 10 in the NBA.

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    that probably lowers it to around a 5% chance. I just couldn't see them definitely making the playoffs by 2016 if I had to say today. I think they will get out of the top ten pick range though.

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    A center in Don Nelson's offense doesn't work. A center in Mike Dantoni's offense doesn't work. Shaq in transition oriented Cleveland and Phoenix doesn't work. Unless we stop running Roy is not going to amount to much for us.
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    Wow I had no idea that was where Detroit got their 2003 pick from. It looks like 5 years is the standard time they protect picks for. There is a decent chance the clippers pick in 2016 will end up as a lotto pick for okc. I'd say 60% chance as of today.
    What made it worse for the Grizz was the player they traded that pick for.......The ghost of Otis Thorpe!!!

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    What made it worse for the Grizz was the player they traded that pick for.......The ghost of Otis Thorpe!!!


    this line made me want to write a short story for a second called "the ghost of Otis Thorpe!!!", then I calmed down...Was Thorpe on either of the Houston championship teams in 94 or 95?

    I looked it up Thorpe was on the 94 championship team, then I assume traded or signed as a free agent with Detroit after the season, but I remember Thorpe being solid in those finals games.
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    Otis was probably worth a 1st round pick back in his prime....which at age 35, he was certainly not.

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