that was 6 yrs ago who cares
If your comment is going to be ignorant, why post it? Don't make other people have to scroll past your comment if it's completely worthless. He's bringing it up obviously because of the Jets incident.
But it doesn't really look to me like he "tripped" him. Couldn't see the vid all that well though.
Stop quoting people I have on ignore!
This play was so different also Marvin was walking and in the jets case the dolphin guy was sprinting. Also to me it looks like he isnt trying to hurt Marvin unlike in the jets case.
The Jets coach wasn't trying to hurt the guy either, he was just taking him out of the play. It's 100% the same intention.
Why no suspension? Because MNF didn't point it out live, come back from commercial and zoom in on it repeatedly. If that happened during the Niners/Jets local markets only game going against Pats/Colts or Steelers/Ravens where no one gave a crap then nothing would have come from it except some bitter fan posting a web vid of it.
Belli is actually worse because he finds where Marv is at and then turns and side steps to intentionally block his return to the field of play. At that point the coach SHOULD be looking at the still active play. Belli is a cheater which makes him a genius. Who knows how many corners he cuts that we don't know about.
It's only worse because the Dolphins player got hurt.
If Marvin would have gotten hurt it would have been a huge **** storm back then. Especially because Marvin is 10 times the player that did get hurt. It's no different in intent, and to be honest, Belichick was much less sneaky about it. That was pretty blatant, he just didn't accomplish it, and nobody was hurt.
To equate thus with a coach actually sticking out his leg and tripping a player who was running at full speed, putting the player in danger, after planning a lineup in which he and 5 others were already in position to impede that runner is beyond ludicrous.
So somebody has gone through 10 years of tape trying to find something the Patriots have done that is remotely similar, and this is the best they could find?
To quote Mike Florio "Unlike Alosi, Belichick wasn’t trying to impede Harrison during a play...The video is largely comical, more embarrassing than sinister for Belichick, who stumbles into Harrison’s path"
Bill is lucky he didn't get shot, though. You can say that MAYBE he tries to get slightly into Harrison's way, but he doesn't initiate any contact, is standing where he is allowed to stand, and unlike Alosi he certainly had no reason to expect Harrison to be going there. Another awful thread title: someone needs to show me where anyone is getting "tripped". Does Harrison fall? Does he even stumble? Accurate title: "Belichick stumbles into Harrison's path"
Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 12-17-2010 at 09:18 AM.
Better thread title.
Oversensitive Pats Fan Overreacts to Another Thread Title.
Here's an idea, how about anytime any of us wants to start a thread, we PM slick to make sure he approves? It's so crazy it just might work!
Would that make you happy Slick?
Well going by the definition, the Miami player wasn't "tripped" either. Their knees collided. In order to be "tripped" his foot would have to have been hit.
So I think we all can agree by definition, neither was "tripped" which totally invalidates Slick's point, about they aren't the same because Marvin wasn't "tripped."
To suggest what Belichick did to Harrison was tripping, one would have to really be tripp'in
Last edited by Unclebuck; 12-17-2010 at 03:52 PM.
So it would seem that the people who tripped in the two videos in question are the Miami special teamer and Bill Belichick (not Marvin Harrison).to cause to stumble, often used with 'up' (as in trip up)
I guess you missed definition #2.
And for the record, Google uses Merriam-Webster as it's dictionary.to catch the foot against something so as to stumble
EDIT: And more more my point is that it's a ridiculous argument to make. Was there contact, yes or no? Yes.
Because of the contact, was the player(s) progress affected? Yes. Both were tripped.
The discussion shouldn't be whether or not they were tripped, the discussion should revolve around intent.
Last edited by Since86; 12-17-2010 at 04:39 PM.
Impeeded is the word you are looking for, not tripped.
Harrison doesn't take a single mis-step. Does he slow down and take a more circuitous route to get back on the field? Perhaps. Was he misdirected intentionally? Hard to tell. Unlike Alosi, of course where there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the intent was to hurt the guy. Are you seriously equating those actions?
OK, you're being ridiculous here. It's hard to tell he was misdirected intentionally? Seriously?
So Bilichick spinning around like a Dradle trying to figure out which direction Marvin is going so he can get in the way .... is hard to tell?
You're kidding, right?
Yes... he looks over to see somebody collide with Marvin, then spins around to see the play end. Anything else is imagination on your part. Don't take my word, read what Florio said: "Unlike Alosi, Belichick wasn’t trying to impede Harrison during a play...The video is largely comical, more embarrassing than sinister for Belichick, who stumbles into Harrison’s path".
This play was shown on the postgame recap at the time (which is where the clip game from- the announcers at the end are the NESN hosts) so this is something widely discussed 6 years ago and dismissed for what it was-- essentially nothing. Do you think that Belichick was trying to knock over or injure Marvin Harrison? Really?
Last edited by Slick Pinkham; 12-17-2010 at 07:51 PM.
c'mon now, troy murphy would be envious of that block out
If Belichick wasn't trying to get in the way, why didn't he stay where he was originally? Why even run over there to that spot? Then when he turns around and see's where Harrison is going, he gets in front of him absolutely on purpose puts his leg and hip into Harrison's path. They bump into each other and as Harrison gets back on the field he glares back at Belichick because of it. Strange accident for someone who saw where he was going. He purposely throws his hip and leg in Harrison's path.
If he was "just" trying to see the end of the play, he wouldn't have even turned around to see where Harrison was to begin with, and he wouldn't have backtracked to the direction he came from to get in Harrison's way.
You're blind. Period.
I know if I was on the sidelines, and I was trying to see the end of the play, I'd have my back to it. What better way is there?