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  • 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18192 By: Jason Fleming


    Point Guard
    (name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

    Aaron Brooks, Houston Rockets - $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Andre Miller, Portland Trail Blazers - $7.3 million – Team Option ($7.8 million)
    Mo Williams, Cleveland Cavaliers - $9.3 million – Early Termination Option ($8.3 million)
    Goran Dragic, Phoenix Suns - $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
    Leandro Barbosa, Toronto Raptors - $7.1 million – Player Option ($7.6 million)
    Rodney Stuckey, Detroit Pistons - $2.8 million – Restricted ($3.9 million Qualifying Offer)
    T.J. Ford, Indiana Pacers - $8.5 million – Unrestricted
    Carlos Arroyo, Miami HEAT - $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Ronnie Price, Utah Jazz - $1.3 million - Unrestricted
    Patrick Mills, Portland Trail Blazers - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Sasha Vujacic, New Jersey Nets - $5.5 million – Unrestricted
    Sebastian Telfair, Minnesota Timberwolves - $2.7 million – Unrestricted
    Luther Head, Sacramento Kings - $1.0 million - Unrestricted
    Charlie Bell, Golden State Warriors - $3.9 million – Early Termination Option ($4.1 million)
    Willie Green, New Orleans Hornets - $4.0 million - Unrestricted
    Mario Chalmers, Miami HEAT - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Jason Williams, Orlando Magic - $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Earl Watson, Utah Jazz – $1.2 million - Unrestricted
    Pooh Jeter, Sacramento Kings - $0.5 million – Team Option ($0.8 million)
    Jose Barea, Dallas Mavericks - $1.7 million – Unrestricted
    Sundiata Gaines, Minnesota Timberwolves - $0.7 million – Unrestricted*
    Chris Quinn, San Antonio Spurs - $0.9 million - Unrestricted
    Royal Ivey, Oklahoma City Thunder - $1.1 million - Unrestricted
    Marcus Banks, New Orleans Hornets - $4.9 million - Unrestricted
    Earl Boykins, Milwaukee Bucks - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Anthony Carter, Denver Nuggets - $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Acie Law, Golden State Warriors - $0.7 million - Unrestricted
    John Lucas, Chicago Bulls - $0.7 million – Unrestricted*
    Ben Uzoh, New Jersey Nets - $0.5 million – Unrestricted*

    Shooting Guard
    (name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

    Ray Allen, Boston Celtics - $10.0 million – Player Option ($10.0 million)
    Jason Richardson, Phoenix Suns - $14.4 million - Unrestricted
    Jamal Crawford, Atlanta Hawks - $10.1 million – Unrestricted
    Arron Afflalo, Denver Nuggets - $2.0 million – Restricted ($2.9 million Qualifying Offer)
    Wilson Chandler, New York Knicks - $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Shannon Brown, L.A. Lakers - $2.1 million – Player Option ($2.4 million)
    C.J. Miles, Utah Jazz - $3.7 million – Team Option ($3.7 million)
    J.R. Smith, Denver Nuggets - $6.0 million – Unrestricted
    DeShawn Stevenson, Dallas Mavericks - $4.2 million – Unrestricted
    Mike Dunleavy, Indiana Pacers - $10.6 million – Unrestricted
    Chris Douglas-Roberts, Milwaukee Bucks - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Nick Young, Washington Wizards - $2.6 million – Restricted ($3.7 million Qualifying Offer)
    Sonny Weems, Toronto Raptors - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Mo Evans, Atlanta Hawks - $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Daequan Cook, Oklahoma City Thunder - $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Anthony Parker, Cleveland Cavaliers - $2.9 million – Unrestricted
    Eddie House, Miami HEAT - $1.4 million – Player Option ($1.4 million)
    Marquis Daniels, Boston Celtics - $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Marcus Thornton, New Orleans Hornets - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Morris Peterson, Oklahoma City Thunder - $6.2 million - Unrestricted
    Roger Mason, New York Knicks - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Marco Belinelli, New Orleans Hornets - $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Gary Forbes, Denver Nuggets - $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks - $18.3 million - Unrestricted
    Delonte West, Boston Celtics - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Stephen Graham, New Jersey Nets - $1.0 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Dominic McGuire, Charlotte Bobcats - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Alonzo Gee, Washington Wizards - $0.6 million – Unrestricted*
    Jeremy Lin, Golden State Warriors - $0.5 million – Team Option ($0.8 million)
    Von Wafer, Boston Celtics - $0.9 million – Unrestricted

    Small Forward
    (name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

    Carmelo Anthony, Denver Nuggets - $17.1 million – Early Termination Option ($18.5 million)
    Caron Butler, Dallas Mavericks - $10.8 million – Unrestricted
    Thaddeus Young, Philadelphia 76ers - $2.9 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Grant Hill, Phoenix Suns - $3.2 million - Unrestricted
    Tayshaun Prince, Detroit Pistons – $11.1 million – Unrestricted
    Shane Battier, Houston Rockets - $7.4 million - Unrestricted
    Reggie Williams, Golden State Warriors - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    James Jones, Miami HEAT - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Al Thornton, Washington Wizards - $2.8 million – Restricted ($3.9 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jason Kapono, Philadelphia 76ers - $6.6 million - Unrestricted
    Corey Brewer, Minnesota Timberwolves - $3.7 million – Restricted ($5.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Josh Howard, Washington Wizards - $3.0 million - Unrestricted
    Rasual Butler, L.A. Clippers - $2.4 million - Unrestricted
    Jamario Moon, Cleveland Cavaliers - $3.0 million – Unrestricted
    Julian Wright, Toronto Raptors - $2.9 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Peja Stojakovic, Toronto Raptors - $14.3 million - Unrestricted
    Earl Clark, Phoenix Suns - $1.9 million – Unrestricted
    Kelenna Azubuike, New York Knicks - $3.3 million - Unrestricted
    Quinton Ross, New Jersey Nets - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Shawne Williams, New York Knicks - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Ime Udoka, San Antonio Spurs - $0.9 million - Unrestricted
    Vladimir Radmanovic, Golden State Warriors - $6.9 million - Unrestricted
    Joey Graham, Cleveland Cavaliers - $1.0 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Jawad Williams, Cleveland Cavaliers - $1.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Rodney Carney, Golden State Warriors - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Jeremy Evans, Utah Jazz - $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    DaJuan Summers, Detroit Pistons - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Damien Wilkins, Atlanta Hawks - $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Steve Novak, Dallas Mavericks - $0.9 million - Unrestricted
    Derrick Brown, Charlotte Bobcats - $0.7 million – Unrestricted*
    Darnell Jackson, Sacramento Kings - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Cartier Martin, Washington Wizards - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*

    Power Forward
    (name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

    Zach Randolph, Memphis Grizzlies - $17.3 million – Unrestricted
    David West, New Orleans Hornets - $8.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.5 million)
    Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs - $18.8 million – Early Termination Option ($21.1 million)
    Andrei Kirilenko, Utah Jazz - $17.8 million - Unrestricted
    Jeff Green, Oklahoma City Thunder - $4.5 million – Restricted ($5.9 million Qualifying Offer)
    Boris Diaw, Charlotte Bobcats - $9.0 million – Player Option ($9.0 million)
    Troy Murphy, New Jersey Nets - $12.0 million – Unrestricted
    Carl Landry, Sacramento Kings - $3.0 million - Unrestricted
    Kenyon Martin, Denver Nuggets - $16.5 million – Unrestricted
    Glen Davis, Boston Celtics – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
    Ronny Turiaf, New York Knicks - $4.2 million – Player Option ($4.1 million)
    Kris Humphries, New Jersey Nets - $3.2 million – Unrestricted
    Reggie Evans, Toronto Raptors - $5.1 million – Unrestricted
    Louis Amundson, Golden State Warriors – $2.2 million – Player Option ($2.4 million)
    Chuck Hayes, Houston Rockets - $2.3 million – Unrestricted
    Yi Jianlian, Washington Wizards - $4.1 million – Restricted ($5.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Josh McRoberts - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Jared Jeffries, Houston Rockets - $6.9 million - Unrestricted
    Luc Mbah a Moute, Milwaukee Bucks - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Jason Smith, New Orleans Hornets - $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Craig Smith, L.A. Clippers - $2.3 million – Unrestricted
    Dante Cunningham, Portland Trail Blazers - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Joey Dorsey, Toronto Raptors - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Joe Smith, L.A. Lakers - $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Malik Allen, Orlando Magic - $1.2 million - Unrestricted
    Jonas Jerebko, Detroit Pistons - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Sam Young, Memphis Grizzlies - $0.9 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
    Juwan Howard, Miami HEAT - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Brandan Wright, Golden State Warriors - $3.4 million – Restricted ($4.6 million Qualifying Offer)
    Darius Songaila, Philadelphia 76ers - $4.8 million - Unrestricted
    Leon Powe, Cleveland Cavaliers - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Shelden Williams, Denver Nuggets - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Chris Wilcox, Detroit Pistons - $3.0 million – Unrestricted
    Sean Marks, Portland Trail Blazers - $1.3 million - Unrestricted
    DJ Mbenga, New Orleans Hornets - $0.9 million - Unrestricted
    Brian Skinner, Milwaukee Bucks - $1.0 million – Unrestricted
    Hamady Ndiaye, Washington Wizards - $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    DeMarre Carroll, Memphis Grizzlies - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Solomon Jones, Indiana Pacers - $1.5 million - Unrestricted
    Brian Cardinal, Dallas Mavericks - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Brian Scalabrine, Chicago Bulls - $1.2 million - Unrestricted
    Josh Powell, Atlanta Hawks - $1.0 million – Unrestricted
    Melvin Ely, Denver Nuggets - $1.1 million - Unrestricted

    Center
    (name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

    Nene, Denver Nuggets - $11.4 million – Early Termination Option ($11.6 million)
    Marc Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies - $3.6 million – Unrestricted*
    Tyson Chandler, Dallas Mavericks - $12.6 million – Unrestricted
    Yao Ming, Houston Rockets - $17.7 million - Unrestricted
    Kendrick Perkins, Boston Celtics - $4.9 million – Unrestricted
    Joel Przybilla, Portland Trail Blazers - $7.4 million – Unrestricted
    Samuel Dalembert, Sacramento Kings – $13.4 million - Unrestricted
    Greg Oden, Portland Trail Blazers - $6.8 million – Restricted ($8.8 million Qualifying Offer)
    Spencer Hawes, Philadelphia 76ers - $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Nenad Krstic, Oklahoma City Thunder - $5.7 million – Unrestricted
    Earl Barron, Phoenix Suns - $0.8 million - Unrestricted
    Tony Battie, Philadelphia 76ers - $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Kyrylo Fesenko, Utah Jazz - $1.1 million - Unrestricted
    Erick Dampier, Miami HEAT - $1.1 million - Unrestricted
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Miami HEAT - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Jeff Foster, Indiana Pacers - $6.7 million - Unrestricted
    Nazr Mohammed, Charlotte Bobcats - $6.9 million – Unrestricted
    DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Kurt Thomas, Chicago Bulls - $1.4 million – Unrestricted
    Francisco Elson, Utah Jazz - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Hilton Armstrong, Washington Wizards - $0.9 million - Unrestricted
    Aaron Gray, New Orleans Hornets - $0.9 million – Player Option ($0.9 million)
    Jamaal Magloire, Miami HEAT - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Dan Gadzuric, Golden State Warriors - $7.2 million - Unrestricted
    Ryan Hollins, Cleveland Cavaliers - $2.3 million – Player Option ($2.5 million)
    Kwame Brown, Charlotte Bobcats - $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Theo Ratliff, L.A. Lakers - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
    Etan Thomas, Atlanta Hawks - $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Jarron Collins, L.A. Clippers - $1.2 million - Unrestricted
    Jason Collins, Atlanta Hawks - $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    Eddy Curry, New York Knicks - $11.3 million - Unrestricted
    Hamed Haddadi, Memphis Grizzlies - $1.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Alexis Ajinca, Dallas Mavericks - $1.5 million – Unrestricted
    I think its about time Bird look into trades, especially if we can move an expiring. Not a lot of superstars but some above average talent
    Sittin on top of the world!

  • #2
    Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

    There are some intriguing names out there. I like Nene, DeAndre Jordan, Carl Landry, and Jeff Green at the Power froward/Center position. At shooting guard there is less to choice from. The guys who are young I like are Wilson Chandler, Nick Young, and Marcus Thorton.
    Last edited by pacers74; 12-19-2010, 11:33 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

      i wasnt aware tyson chandler is a FA this offseason. we tried to trade for him a couple seasons ago.. i think he would be an ideal player to bring in and play at the PF, could also play some minutes at C, which is the type of player we need.

      im not interested in seeing the pacers pay him over 10M, so its probably not likely.. but still, if we could get him for around 8M that would be a player we should consider.

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      • #4
        Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

        I like both Chandler and Nene and a little less David West
        Sittin on top of the world!

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        • #5
          Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

          Originally posted by PacersPride View Post
          i wasnt aware tyson chandler is a FA this offseason. we tried to trade for him a couple seasons ago.. i think he would be an ideal player to bring in and play at the PF, could also play some minutes at C, which is the type of player we need.

          im not interested in seeing the pacers pay him over 10M, so its probably not likely.. but still, if we could get him for around 8M that would be a player we should consider.
          he is a center first . But i think defensivly he can play the 4 i dont know about offensively.

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          • #6
            Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

            Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
            he is a center first . But i think defensivly he can play the 4 i dont know about offensively.
            He can't play any position very well offensively

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            • #7
              Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

              Originally posted by cdash View Post
              He can't play any position very well offensively
              that was my point

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              • #8
                Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                Yao should be on that list he should be a FA this yr

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                • #9
                  Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                  Nene very likely won't be a free agent.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                    Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
                    Yao should be on that list he should be a FA this yr
                    Yeah, his career looks like it's over.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                      Tyson Chandler will be 29 years old by the start of the next season. I wouldn't mind going after him as the 1st Big Man off the bench.

                      If we're going to go with FA as the way to improve the Team...then we might as well try to make a run at David West IF he's going to jump into the FA market next offseason.

                      Another Backup Center to consider is Joel Pryzbilla. Both Chandler and Pryz have injury concerns....but I could live with either of them as backup Centers playing 20-24 mpg.
                      Last edited by CableKC; 12-16-2010, 05:45 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                        I think we ended up with the worst year imaginable to have a plethora of cap space.
                        Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team. -- Scottie Pippen

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                        • #13
                          Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                          Marc Gasol! Oh man if the Lakers got him, it would be hilarious.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                            Depending on how his rehab is going, Kendrick Perkins is a name that interests me. Center appears to be the position of strength. As is consistent with the Pacers' luck, Power Forward and Shooting Guard are extremely weak.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 2011 Free Agents: Position-by-Position

                              On that list, of course minus Melo, there aren't many if any guys I would want to pay 10 mil or more. Nene and West will probably want that much, and I would want Nene first he just seems more like a banger and a good fit.

                              I will be moderately happy, if we get some one like Landry for around 8 mil a year and one of Wilson Chandler, Young or Thorton for around 5 or 6 mil a year.

                              Marc Gasol would be great to have, but would there be enough minutes at center for both him and Hibbert?
                              Last edited by pacers74; 12-19-2010, 11:34 PM.

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