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    Default Dear Shade...

    How do you like me now?

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    The Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless Trade

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    We got the two best players in that deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRushWithDeath View Post
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    We got the two best players in that deal.
    I would say the 3 best...

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    Ike and Jerryd for Jack, Rush, and McRoberts. We definitely got the best 3 as of today.

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    How do you like me now?

    Sincerely,

    The Brandon Rush for Jerryd Bayless Trade
    Brandon, is that you?
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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    That was a good trade - like me.

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    Jermaine O'Neal / Jawai for Ford / Hibbert / Baston Trade

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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    Bayless shows some flashes of his potential here and there, but hasn't been consistent.

    Brandon had been the same way until very recently, and as a four-year college player to boot.

    But yeah, as of right now, we won that trade by a ton. We'll see if that continues to be the case in the long run.

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    Jermaine O'Neal / Jawai for Ford / Hibbert / Baston Trade

    Don't forget Rasho's expiring as well.

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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    The JO deal just looks like highway robbery.

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    The JO deal just looks like highway robbery.
    Hibbert's personal work ethic is what bailed out that trade, no questions about it. IMO, he deserves the credit for that trade, b/c from all vantage points at the time of the pick, almost no one expected the amount of upside we're witnessing now.

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    jawai's about to break out

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    Hibbert's personal work ethic is what bailed out that trade, no questions about it. IMO, he deserves the credit for that trade, b/c from all vantage points at the time of the pick, almost no one expected the amount of upside we're witnessing now.
    So Bird gets no credit for targeting Hibbert, and bringing him here? For recognizing the work ethic, and kind of player Roy could be? That's kind weird.

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    So Bird gets no credit for targeting Hibbert, and bringing him here? For recognizing the work ethic, and kind of player Roy could be? That's kind weird.
    Sorry, didn't mean it like that... I am just suggesting that we owe some thanks to Hibbert for being dedicated to his self improvement. Bird of course deserves heaps of credit for recognizing his potential.

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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    I absolutely loved the trade regardless of the Hibbert pick. Do you want to include the $10M or so that we saved on JO's deal too?

    Hibbert just makes the deal look that much more lopsided.

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    Not enough evidence to call yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docpaul View Post
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    Hibbert's personal work ethic is what bailed out that trade, no questions about it. IMO, he deserves the credit for that trade, b/c from all vantage points at the time of the pick, almost no one expected the amount of upside we're witnessing now.
    Yeah, but didn't we make that trade based off potential?

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    Not enough evidence to call yet.
    Yes there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flox View Post
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    Not enough evidence to call yet.
    Says the guy that is waiting for more evidence that probes that Jim sucks
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    Not enough evidence to call yet.
    I want what you're smoking.

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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    Shade was gracious, but shouldn't this thread get a 15 yard penalty for taunting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flox View Post
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    Not enough evidence to call yet.
    1) What would "enough evidence" be?

    2) What's wrong with saying it looks great for us right now?

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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    Well considering Bayless has logged 2246 minutes in his NBA career, which is roughly 1/2 of Rush's 4714 minutes, and the 3 year age difference between the two, there is plenty of time left.

    Considering it took this year for Rush to show something, I'd say its fair to give Bayless at least 1000 minutes or next season for this fight to be truly called. Especially with Jack's struggles in NOH (he is truly painful to watch this season- just awful).

    But what do I know.


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    Didn't see Hicks post. Bayless hasn't seen the floor very much- I want to see what he can do given the chance to start- basically the same opportunity that Rush has had- with some more minutes and consistent playing time, before seeing who is the better player between Bayless and Rush. If Bayless turns into a Jason Terry/Ben Gordon type of combo guard (which is very possible), then this trade will be looked at differently.

    Jack is of little consequence in the long run, and McRoberts as well since he's not a complete player yet.

    There is nothing wrong to say that we won in terms of this season, or the past 3 seasons. But I think it's too early to declare victory.
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    A 1000 more minutes?

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    A 1000 more minutes?
    You can say this, but how about 3 years? That's how many years of development Bayless is behind Rush. It's not impossible that Bayless figures it out within 3 years and suddenly becomes a good or very good NBA player.

    Secondly, Rush has only played like this for what? 14 games? Are we really so sure this is who he is yet? Same for McRoberts.

    Right now it certainly looks like one hell of a trade, and if I was a betting man, I'd say odds are it will continue to look that way. However not everything ends up the way the odds would dictate. You guys making it sound like it's an impossibility for this to end up any other way than it looks right now are being a bit short sighted.

    *PS - EDIT* ... it hurt me physically to agree with flox.
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    Default Re: Dear Shade...

    Interesting to see flox's argument regarding Bayless when compared to his argument regarding McRoberts.

    I was under the impression that players learned from sitting the bench, therefore Bayless should be in a great position to be evaluated from all the indepth knowledge of sitting and watching. Or just maybe he's just admitting in a round about way that sitting can only take you so far, and you have to be able to put it on the court, which is what the rest of us argued with him......

    Interesting none-the-less.

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