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Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

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  • #16
    Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

    Originally posted by Kstat
    Don't worry the Pistons gave up their 3 best guys off the bench for old guys who miss games and young guys who need more time to develop. Plus we added perimeter shooting to get around their powerhouse defense. 2005 is our year.


    First of all, if you just flat-out assume that MCDyess is going to miss games, then you have to assume the same for the only quality big you have left on the Bench, Jon "brittle" Bender.

    Secondly, you added perimeter shooting at the GUARD position, which we're plenty used to. We had to go through Michael Redd, Kobe Bryant and Kerry Kittles, all of whome are very good 3-point shooters. Stephen Jackson isnt exactly anything we havent seen.

    The only way you're going to draw out our defense is if you have BIG MEN that can shoot from the outside, and if that means you're counting on once-every-5-games croshere, or Jon Bender, who isnt big enough to play the 4 yet, thats trouble.

    You can have as many shooters at the 1-2-3 spots as you want, thats not a huge deal.


    Keep on being delusional

    Face it your team traded away depth all around for PF, and C. And now any team with a strong perimeter will kick your ***.

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    • #17
      Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

      Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
      Originally posted by Kstat
      Don't worry the Pistons gave up their 3 best guys off the bench for old guys who miss games and young guys who need more time to develop. Plus we added perimeter shooting to get around their powerhouse defense. 2005 is our year.


      First of all, if you just flat-out assume that MCDyess is going to miss games, then you have to assume the same for the only quality big you have left on the Bench, Jon "brittle" Bender.

      Secondly, you added perimeter shooting at the GUARD position, which we're plenty used to. We had to go through Michael Redd, Kobe Bryant and Kerry Kittles, all of whome are very good 3-point shooters. Stephen Jackson isnt exactly anything we havent seen.

      The only way you're going to draw out our defense is if you have BIG MEN that can shoot from the outside, and if that means you're counting on once-every-5-games croshere, or Jon Bender, who isnt big enough to play the 4 yet, thats trouble.

      You can have as many shooters at the 1-2-3 spots as you want, thats not a huge deal.


      Keep on being delusional

      Face it your team traded away depth all around for PF, and C. And now any team with a strong perimeter will kick your ***.

      Bhagdad Bob returns

      So tell me, since you know more about my team than I do, who was our backup SG last yar?

      How about our backup SF?

      Did we have ANY natural SGs or SFs on our roster last year? Where exactly is this "all around depth" you spoke of? I guess it looked a lot more impressive to you than it did to me...

      What contributions if ANY did Mike james, Corliss, and Okur make in the playoffs? Bonus question: how many minutes did Mike James even PLAY? How does one become a top-8 player if one is the THIRD-string PG, btw?

      I'll be waiting to see what kind of story you try to drum up.

      In the meantime, I'll say this:

      YOU LOST PRIMOZ AND SIGGY! YOUR TEAM IS DOOMED, THEY WERE GREAT ALL AROUND PLAYERS, YAAAAAAAAH!

      Just doing a likewise imitation of you...

      Pay no attention to those detroit dogs! Okur and Williamson were great players! McDyess is nothing! The infadels are being destroyed as we speak! Pacers forever!

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      It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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      • #18
        Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

        Originally posted by Kstat
        TO awnser the original question, yes, I do think JO will lead the pacers to a title before 2010....











        ........sometime after Ben and Sheed get fitted for their 3rd and 4th rings.......
        Now now, the Pistons are pretty much all in their respective "primes" and it would be reasonable to expect that their window to win more championships is about 4 years and by then Ben and Rasheed will be older and in the twilight of their careers. It is pretty reasonable to expect the Pacers to surpass them and everybody else unless a new dominant team in the East emerges.

        ...unless you expect Darko to pan out

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        • #19
          Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

          Originally posted by canyoufeelit
          Originally posted by Kstat
          TO awnser the original question, yes, I do think JO will lead the pacers to a title before 2010....











          ........sometime after Ben and Sheed get fitted for their 3rd and 4th rings.......
          Now now, the Pistons are pretty much all in their respective "primes" and it would be reasonable to expect that their window to win more championships is about 4 years and by then Ben and Rasheed will be older and in the twilight of their careers. It is pretty reasonable to expect the Pacers to surpass them and everybody else unless a new dominant team in the East emerges.

          ...unless you expect Darko to pan out
          .....and of course I do.

          I think Larry did a good job of showing that ANYBODY can look bad in 2 minutes oer game of action...just ask Lebron James.......

          As soon as either Ben or Sheed gets up there in age (they will be 30 this year, not exactly old), Darko will be ready to take the reigns and keep the pistons contending.

          It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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          • #20
            Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

            Delusional, to the point of ignoring logic

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            • #21
              Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

              Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
              Delusional, to the point of ignoring logic
              Thats all you have to say?

              I'd rather be delusional than make snide, 3rd-grade statements with absoultely NOTHING to back them up....

              Um...err.....I......well YOURE WRONG, and thats it! Pacers in 2005, whooooo! Pistons suck!

              Can someone PLEASE help this kid out, I was kinda bored and I wanted at least SOME kind of rebuttal, wrong or other wise......


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              It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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              • #22
                Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                You can't compare Lebron playing limited mins over a half a dozen games to Darko playing limited mins over an entire season. Not that I've written Darko off, but I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest that he could grow into a player who could adequately replace Ben. He just seems awfully soft, and I can't recall any player improving drastically in that department.

                And it's not like all the teams Detroit played were totally healthy and the Pistons dominated them. They got past New Jersey by the skin of their teeth even with Kidd hobbled especially during the last few games. They beat the Pacers 4-2, with JO and Tinsley limited in a series where in 4 games, the result was decided by one or two final possessions. The only team they destroyed was LA, and they didn't have Malone after game 2. Not that Malone would have made too much difference, but the series would have looked less lop-sided if he had played. The reason people are so high on Detroit is because they beat an LA team that was hyped out of all proportion.

                Detroit's a great team, but there isn't even any reason to suppose that they'd have beaten last year's Pacers if both teams were at full health. This year's Pacers look more balanced, and they should improve internally more than Detroit will because their core players are younger. If both teams get solid play from their question mark players I don't see anything to choose between them. Of course I'm a Pacer fan so I'd say that the Pacer's would edge them in a series.

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                • #23
                  Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                  I have already typed a rebuttal you ignored it. Like a common troll.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                    Originally posted by Kstat
                    Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                    Delusional, to the point of ignoring logic
                    Thats all you have to say?

                    I'd rather be delusional than make snide, 3rd-grade statements with absoultely NOTHING to back them up....

                    Um...err.....I......well YOURE WRONG, and thats it! Pacers in 2005, whooooo! Pistons suck!

                    Can someone PLEASE help this kid out, I was kinda bored and I wanted at least SOME kind of rebuttal, wrong or other wise......

                    I'm kinda bored too. Let's see - Ben gets injured when his hair gets caught in the net, tearing his scalp out.

                    Prince and Rip fit themselves into one suit to enter a pro wrestling match as a two-headed, four-armed, 280 lb contender and get hurt ...

                    Eldon Campbell begins eating the entire buffet at the pre-game meals and you run out of energy in 4th quarters ...

                    On a serious note, other than injuries which nobody can predict your biggest problem will be if Rasheed gets bored and goes whacko on you.

                    As for a title this year, I see 4 teams in the mix - amazingly, two are from the EC: Detroit, Indy, Minn and the Spurs. IMO we could call off the season and start the Conf finals with those 4, barring injuries or a big Miami trade where they get more depth.
                    The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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                    • #25
                      Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                      Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                      I have already typed a rebuttal you ignored it. Like a common troll.
                      .......so your rebuttal was "um, err, youre wrong"?

                      It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                        he reason people are so high on Detroit is because they beat an LA team that was hyped out of all proportion.
                        ...or, maybe its because they won the NBA championsh- naaaah, coudlnt be....

                        Detroit's a great team, but there isn't even any reason to suppose that they'd have beaten last year's Pacers if both teams were at full health.
                        .....just like there isnt any reason to suppose they WOULDNT have beaten the Pacers if both teams were at full health....

                        if I had a nickel for every time someone said that......

                        This year's Pacers look more balanced, and they should improve internally more than Detroit will because their core players are younger.
                        .......I'd be a rich man.


                        I never said the Pacers didnt have a SHOT to knock the Pistons off, but the champs are still the champs. The Pistons earned the throne, the only way to prove the Pacers are the better team is to take it from them.

                        It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                          Let's see...

                          you guys have added Amal McCaskill, Derrick Coleman, Ronald Dupree, Antonio McDyess, and Carlos Delfino. and lost James, Okur, and Williamson... hmmm

                          I don't think Coleman will be much of a factor, and I think Delfino will need a year to adjust. Dupree and McCaskill stink, IMO. So as far as immediate improvement/de-provement next year, it comes down to adding McDyess while losing James, Okur, and Williamson. Williamson was the only one there who played a lot, so I see it as a McD for Williamson exchange. I would say you probably break even there, because even if he plays a lot, I don't think he'll be as effective after all those injuries. (Edit - I'm speaking of McDyess, I wasn't too clear there.)

                          So the Piston's are as good as last year, and just as deep, maybe deeper if they get lucky with dupree or Delfino, IMHO.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                            The Pistons are simply a better team than the Pacers are right now. There is absolutely nothing that should make anyone assume that the Pacers are a better team than the Pistons.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                              Originally posted by PacerFanAdam
                              The Pistons are simply a better team than the Pacers are right now. There is absolutely nothing that should make anyone assume that the Pacers are a better team than the Pistons.
                              Logic

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                              • #30
                                Re: Can Jermaine lead the Pacers to a title by 2010?

                                Originally posted by Destined4Greatness
                                Originally posted by PacerFanAdam
                                The Pistons are simply a better team than the Pacers are right now. There is absolutely nothing that should make anyone assume that the Pacers are a better team than the Pistons.
                                Logic
                                This isnt a haiku thread you know, your posts CAN be longer than 7 syllables in length........

                                It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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