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    Man, I didn't expect IU to win the game, but I would do everything in my power not to allow that to happen if I were coaching the winning team. I would run every down, that just seems to be poor in taste in my opinion.
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    I tend to both disagree and agree.

    Yes, the coach probably should have not allowed it to happen, but at the same time look at this way.

    There were quite a few times where Wisconsin did run the football. IU simply could not stop them. That's no fault of the coaches. He's not going to tell his backs to simply fall down and run the clock because the other team is incapable of tackling.
    Stop quoting people I have on ignore!

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    We just suck that bad.

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    Look on the bright side: That was the nail in the coffin for Bill Lynch. Good riddance to you, sir.

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    I thought it was kinda funny.

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    Here is the thing, I don't think we suck THAT bad. You have to remember, this is the same team that was inches away from beating both Michigan earlier in the year and Iowa just last week. Our defense is beyond terrible, or we would have won the Michigan game.

    I did not watch the game, but there was one player on Wisconsin who had a field day returning kicks, interceptions, etc. I also think they were throwing on 3rd down. If you intercept and have a pick 6... what do you do?

    And had we been beat 60-20... I actually could live with that. But if you come up with 83 points, you aren't holding back enough. I just don't see it.

    But I do agree with the optimism that Lynch should be gone. But, before we get rid of him, I hope we have a line on a good coach. This won't be the first coach we have fired who couldn't turn it around, and I'm not interested in another coach on the long list of losers.
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    I was a little shocked myself. I go outside a second and it goes from a nice 17-10 ball game to a 31-10 game. I take a walk to the store and come back and it is like 45-10. I finally just turned the channel and watched the UFC 100 Greatest Matches.

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    Man, I didn't expect IU to win the game, but I would do everything in my power not to allow that to happen if I were coaching the winning team. I would run every down, that just seems to be poor in taste in my opinion.
    Wisconsin attempted 21 total passes the entire game. It just so happens that they connected on 17 of them for 260 yards and 4 touchdowns.

    They rushed the ball 47 times for 338 yards and 6 touchdowns.

    Not so sure that's called running up the score. They simply outplayed and outclassed IU. Period. These players are adults. They are playing big time, division 1 football. They can handle it.
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    We really need to join the MAC for football. Except for '45, '67, and a couple of years under Mallory, we've never been close to being a national contender.

    Let's move to a league/ conference that is more evenly matched. Let Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio State, etc. find a new whipping boy.
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    We're here for basketball J. Football is merely there to just bring in some money.

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    Look on the bright side: That was the nail in the coffin for Bill Lynch. Good riddance to you, sir.
    He might be the only coach to fail at a MAC school, only for a Big Ten school to hire him, and then think it was a "good" one.

    Bill Lynch as a head coach was already dead and buried, before you decided to dig him back up.

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    We're here for basketball J. Football is merely there to just bring in some money.
    Understood. I mean for the move to be football-only.
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    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
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    He might be the only coach to fail at a MAC school, only for a Big Ten school to hire him, and then think it was a "good" one.

    Bill Lynch as a head coach was already dead and buried, before you decided to dig him back up.
    Keep in mind,

    a) That was Hoeppner's staff. Lynch is fine as an assistant.
    b) Most of us hated the idea that Lynch got an extension.
    c) Even with all the "football money" that Joe refererred to, our Athletic Department is broke from paying multiple basketball and football coaches at once. Is Di'Nardo still on payroll?
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    I don't think that would be allowed, nor would I encourage it (Moving out of the Big Ten for football). We make money when Ohio State, Michigan, etc. sell out our stadium, even if they beat us by 100 points, it's money in our pockets. When one of those programs makes a BCS bowl, we make money. I don't see the improved record the MAC might give us making up for our lost revenue from those sort of things as well as the Big Ten Network. I'm willing to go 0-12 every year in football if it means we have a ton of money to spend on new basketball facilities like the one we just built.

    And honestly, I don't buy that it's impossible to build a competitive program at IU. Hoeppner was on his way to doing so IMO, Lynch set us back about 5 years. I will never understand that move. They need to reboot the way they handle the football program. It's like we only pay 20% attention to it when we make decisions. Like whoever reviewed Lynch's contract saw he made one bowl game, and was like "Well, he must be doing something right!"

    As far as paying Dinardo, I still think we might be paying Cam Cameron.

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    You wouldn't encourage it, but I would.

    I care a lot more about IU football than IU basketball. I've been to a number of IU bowl games over the years and its been 15+ years since we've consistently been a bowl team. I'd rather be a consistent contender in the MAC than the Big Ten's doormat. Especially with Nebraska on its way.

    Its too bad we hung onto Mallory for too long and let the program sink back into the abyss he raised it from.
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    I think you're probably alone on that island then...

    You're probably the first person I've ever met that says they care more about IU football than IU basketball...you must be a glutton for punishment.

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    Keep in mind,

    a) That was Hoeppner's staff. Lynch is fine as an assistant.
    b) Most of us hated the idea that Lynch got an extension.
    c) Even with all the "football money" that Joe refererred to, our Athletic Department is broke from paying multiple basketball and football coaches at once. Is Di'Nardo still on payroll?
    I know the situation. I also know what Bill Lynch did at Ball State. Anyone even THINKING Bill should have been the coach the next full year after Heop's death should have been fired, immediately.

    If a guy can't hack it in the MAC, you really think he's going to make a name for himself in the Big 10? He couldn't recruit/coach against teams like Central Michigan, let alone the University of Michigan.

    I told you this was going to be the ending a couple of years ago. You don't make decisions purely based on emotions. This is where it gets you.

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    Right, but he was and is the cheapest option available for an athletic department that's already broke.

    We can't afford to compete in the Big Ten for football, and that has nothing to do with the fact that Lynch is a terrible coach. Both of those, of course, are true, just unrelated.
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    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    Wish it was the nail in the coffin with Bill Lynch, but I don't think that's the case.

    I feel he was only hired b/c of Heps passing and the team getting into the bowl game that year . I understood it, but I disliked it.

    Hope the team and get an actual coach. At least a young up and coming coach. Would've been nice to get Jim Harbaugh before he went to Stanford.

    Any of you know of any up and coming coaches that may in interested in Indiana? Or any coaches that weren't too bad elsewhere and just got a raw deal?

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    I think you're probably alone on that island then...

    You're probably the first person I've ever met that says they care more about IU football than IU basketball...you must be a glutton for punishment.
    Yeah, its my Dad's fault.

    Growing up, IU football tickets were a lot easier for him to get than IU basketball tickets. He'd take me to a couple of football games/ year, and we never missed an IU football game on the radio, but we probably only got into Assembly Hall every other year.

    In his circle of HPER friends, that is pretty common. I understand the rest of the student body doesn't care. But he was a senior in '67 with a number of friends that played in the Rose Bowl.
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
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    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    Hey, I can respect it. I just don't understand it. My Dad was a senior at IU when Isaiah and Knight lead us to the promised land, so I was raised on a strict diet of IU basketball and hating everything about Purdue.

    Perfect case in point about no one caring about IU football is the Penn State game this weekend, they said it would be a great way to get out in front of east coast recruits (HA!), when in reality it's all about the $3million Penn State is shelling out to us to come get our asses handed to us on National TV.

    That money will almost certainly be funneled directly into the basketball program. Well maybe the football team will get money for their flights home...maybe.

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    What's your source on those dollar amounts?

    I'd rather the football team fund the men's and women's track, swimming, and soccer teams, where Indiana has even better traditions than either basketball or football. Basketball (as the other "revenue" sport) can pay for itself.
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    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
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    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    IU, after playing at Penn State for two years in a row, has agreed, in exchange for 3 million dollars, to move the 2010 IU "home" game to FedEx Field in Landover, Maryland, the 91,000 seat home field of the Washington Redskins. The game will be played on November 20, 2010, and as best I can tell, IU has to sell 7,000 tickets.
    http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2009/8/...2009-home-game

    You can find it in a lot of places, but there's one.

    I wish we did have a slightly better soccer stadium maybe with more seats, especially since we use it for Little 5 as well.

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    The only reason I'm not ranting about Lynch is because I've got all of my hate focused on Jim O'Brien right now.

    If anyone cares to dig it up, you can see that I was quite unhappy when we held onto Lynch. I said he would drag us right back down and, sure enough, here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trader Joe View Post
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    http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2009/8/...2009-home-game

    You can find it in a lot of places, but there's one.

    I wish we did have a slightly better soccer stadium maybe with more seats, especially since we use it for Little 5 as well.
    Oh, I remember this now. I misread, I thought you were saying Penn State was paying us $3 million to play at their stadium, and I'm pretty sure Big Ten rules don't allow for that.
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    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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