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    Default A question for the OB haters

    If all the maladies of this team are due to the coach,
    what say you now?


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    This does not seem like a good idea for a thread.

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    Default Re: A question for the OB haters

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    This does not seem like a good idea for a thread.
    I have been a hardcore hater hater and even I disagree with this thread. The hate has been gone since Monday, why pick a fight.

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    This does not seem like a good idea for a thread.
    Guess you were wrong.

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    Seems like a fine idea to me.

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    That he still sucks and I'll be happy when he leaves.

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    That he still sucks and I'll be happy when he leaves.
    To bad you have to make a point to tell us 10 times a day (thanking useless post's counts). I won't bother arguing with you since I know you don't like actually defending your position, but you are downright wrong. If you choose to defend your stance that "he sucks" I will gladly wipe the floor with your postition
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    FWIW, if JOB gets the team to the playoffs (and that looks very realistic) and they have a good showing, he'll probably get brought back. If they win a series, he most definitely gets brought back (and I realize I'm getting ahead of myself here).

    Not that I would bring him back or that I think they should bring him back, but that's what would probably happen.

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    If Murphy was still here do you think this team would be playing any better than last year?

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    If Murphy was still here do you think this team would be playing any better than last year?
    Don't think there's much doubt they would be playing better.
    Added Darren (big)
    TJ is playing well (big)
    Danny is playing D and sharing the ball (HUGE)
    Roy is vastly improved.
    Brandon is looking scary good at times.

    Yeh, I think the whole team is better and would be even if Murph was getting the minutes at 4.

    But not AS good as this team.

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    Don't think there's much doubt they would be playing better.
    Added Darren (big)
    TJ is playing well (big)
    Danny is playing D and sharing the ball (HUGE)
    Roy is vastly improved.
    Brandon is looking scary good at times.

    Yeh, I think the whole team is better and would be even if Murph was getting the minutes at 4.

    But not AS good as this team.
    A big part in Roy playing better is he isn't playing next to Murphy. If you compare his stats last year without Murphy they are extremely similar to this year, in fact almost spot on.

    Danny has always been able to play defense, the fact he decided to play defense the past 4 games I think shows more about his experience on Team USA than JOB.

    Rush's play has little to do with JOB and more about him waking up which I accredit to Granger.

    I honestly don't see how our PG play has improved that much, it may be better, but it isn't difference maker better.


    I think you are underestimating the affect Murphy had on this team. He was that big of a detriment to this team. He was a bad example to everyone. Him playing showed to everyone that defense doesn't matter.

    This team played a lot like they are right now last year when Murphy wasn't playing.


    Also keep in mind last year at this point this team had a 6-7 record. Also we only beat Miami, it isn't like we blew out Boston, LA, or Orlando. It was Miami. They may have 2 of the top 5 individual players on their team, but they are not a complete team. If you can shut down either Wade or Lebron you are going to win 9 times out of 10. Once you get past those two players they have no one worth mentioning.

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    Don't think there's much doubt they would be playing better.
    Added Darren (big)
    TJ is playing well (big)
    Danny is playing D and sharing the ball (HUGE)
    Roy is vastly improved.
    Brandon is looking scary good at times.
    I agree, of course, but you left out the huge breakthrough of Josh McRoberts, and the health and significant contributions of Tyler Hansbrough and James Posey. Paul George has big big upside, but right now he's where he needs to be - mostly watching and learning.

    As a team, they're challenging more shots; but the big breakthrough on defense is their defensive rebounding. Roy and Josh both remade themselves as defensive rebounding machines over the summer. Now that they're getting better ball pressure at the point in the last couple of games, it looks like the sky is the limit for Indiana as a defensive squad.


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    Murphy, Head, and Watson.

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    I should add at this point last season the team was 6-7, actually it is quite common for this team to have a record around .500 at the beginning of the season. As long as JOB has been here his teams have started and finished pretty well, it is the middle part of the season that they have sucked.

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    I should add at this point last season the team was 6-7, actually it is quite common for this team to have a record around .500 at the beginning of the season. As long as JOB has been here his teams have started and finished pretty well, it is the middle part of the season that they have sucked.
    I don't care about records that much. This year's team just looks a lot better.

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    I don't care about records that much. This year's team just looks a lot better.
    Yeh, I don't care what the records say, this is a MUCH better team than past years.
    Not like we're going to stay consistant, but the upside they have shown the past 2 games is awfully impressive.
    As is the fact that we are playing DEFENSE.
    And that doesn't happen on it's own......

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    Yeh, I don't care what the records say, this is a MUCH better team than past years.
    Not like we're going to stay consistant, but the upside they have shown the past 2 games is awfully impressive.
    As is the fact that we are playing DEFENSE.
    And that doesn't happen on it's own......
    Even the losses have been competitive compared to last year. You are seeing good teams struggle to beat us. That was not the case last year...or the previous year. It was an easy victory for both good and average teams. That is no longer the case.

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    Yeh, I don't care what the records say, this is a MUCH better team than past years.
    Not like we're going to stay consistant, but the upside they have shown the past 2 games is awfully impressive.
    As is the fact that we are playing DEFENSE.
    And that doesn't happen on it's own......
    It happens when the GM takes away the worst defensive player on the team.

    JOB is still an average coach and just like any player he should be upgraded if the opportunity presents itslef.

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    It happens when the GM takes away the worst defensive player on the team.

    JOB is still an average coach and just like any player he should be upgraded if the opportunity presents itslef.
    Average would be considered high praise compared to what the haters were saying. Last week they were basicly saying Obrien Maliciously chooses the oppisite of the right decision. They treated him like he was mentally challenged, they would just make up stupid moves and say it was his dream.

    I had to choose this avatar from frustration from simply trying to point out there is logic in his choices. Calling him average is not what this thread is aimed at.

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    Yeh, I don't care what the records say, this is a MUCH better team than past years.
    Not like we're going to stay consistant, but the upside they have shown the past 2 games is awfully impressive.
    As is the fact that we are playing DEFENSE.
    And that doesn't happen on it's own......
    3 games the orlando game was really good. Showed that we can defend and hang with a good team.,

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    I should add at this point last season the team was 6-7, actually it is quite common for this team to have a record around .500 at the beginning of the season. As long as JOB has been here his teams have started and finished pretty well, it is the middle part of the season that they have sucked.
    Um...the team was 5-0 without Murphy and 1-7 with him at that stage.


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    Just because he does a few things right doesn't change the past 3 seasons of questionable decision after questionable decision.

    IMO, he's still making some head scratching decisions this season, we have just played well enough to overcome some of them.

    I still want him gone very badly, I'd be absolutly sick if he is here after this season.
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    "Pax O'Briena - Detente" continues to hold for the second game in my sector.

    I still believe that the Orlando loss was on O'Brien. Anything good that he did during that game was irrelevant because it did not come in a winning effort, and his lack of seeing that the guys didn't have the legs to both shoot 3's and play with the defensive intensity that they had to that game to be competitive was pretty much a failure to adjust, which cost them the game. That was the third game to the minus side for O'Brien so far this season in my view.

    Winning the second of the back to back in convincing fashion is indicative of a maturation of the team in its effort to continue implementing the changes that have been made by O'Brien, to his credit, this season.

    The defense is far better than any previously played under O'Brien during his time here, and of all things I think Danny being dissed by Team USA due to lack of defensive effort has a lot to do with his current much improved defensive play, coupled with a much more agressive Rush being better on both ends of the floor.

    The offense is also improved, due to TJ Ford and Rush playing better, Granger being healthy, and doses of Hibbert being thrown in for good measure against teams who choose to let him score instead of Granger. Also, there have been periods where there has been good ball and player movement, which is probably due to a focus change in an effort to get Roy the ball more than he has had it in the past.

    Yes, O'Brien himself has improved somewhat at this point, but I am not yet convinced that he will not revert to his old ways if things continue to go south with respect to teams choosing to take Hibbert out of the equation. I am afraid that he will feel as if he has no choice but to push the ball and go smaller and encourage quicker shots, and that he will rely on Posey as a "stretch 4" to compensate for Roy in an effort to "stretch the court", which will lead to a deterioration overall in my view.

    Stay tuned for further updates to the evolving story..."Pax O'Briena - Detente".

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    Ill give him credit for only playing mike vs Parker. and playing rush the rest of the gm

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    I say 2 games where we can acknowledge that Jim has done a great job does not equal redemption for 3+ years of ...

    However, if we can continue to totally dominate the competition over the course of this season, I will become a believer.

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