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  • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

    http://www.theboilingpoints.com/2011...ue-day-on.html

    Tonight, 6/29, on the Big Ten Network, The Journey will feature former Boilers JaJuan Johnson and E'Twaun Moore. It will give a recap of their senior year, show graduation, and their preparations for the NBA Draft. Also, tomorrow on the Big Ten Network is "Purdue day." Starting at 2pm eastern they will show "classic" games in Purdue history. Below is the schedule for the day.

    Schedule for "Purdue Day"

    2pm eastern- Duke vs Purdue from 2003-men's basketball
    4pm eastern- Michigan at Purdue 2008-football
    6pm eastern- Ohio St at Purdue 2009- football
    8pm eastern-The Journey-featuring JJ and E'Twaun
    8:30pm eastern- Wisconsin at Purdue (assuming court rushing game)-men's basketball
    10:30pm eastern- Notre Dame at Purdue 1999- football
    12:30am eastern-Repeat of The Journey
    1am eastern- Indiana at Purdue 1994-men's basketball
    I know "Sleeze" is spelled incorrectly. I spell it this way because it's based on a name.

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    • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

      Good story on Lew Jack:

      Home, friends forge hoops star

      Purdue’s Jackson got strength from neighborhood


      DECATUR, Ill. – The house looks different now.

      The siding is new, no longer riddled with bullet holes. Grass has covered one of the gravel driveways. There’s no basketball hoop.

      But when Lewis Jackson looks at the small, white house at 808 East Johns St. in Decatur, Ill., he still sees the place he grew up.

      A sparkle comes to his eyes, a smile sneaks to the corner of his lips, and he starts to reminisce.

      Right there, in the front yard, he’d play football, “kill the man” and wrestle – complete with championship belts to the winner – with best friends Kyler Works and West Dawson.

      See the bit of gravel leading into a makeshift driveway that’s left? That’s one of the spots they’d play ball, honing their dribbling skills by maintaining control despite the rocks. That’s where Jackson’s mom, Zinda, won every time they played.

      Turning to the street, Jackson talks about how it’d be overwhelmed with people, mostly youngsters, how no one could “pay the street to be quiet” as kids gathered in their yards until the early morning hours.

      Looking down toward Maffit Street, he can see a couple bare rims in the park nearby, and over the hill is the court where he developed his game.

      “Best time of our lives,” Purdue’s starting senior point guard Jackson said while he was back home during a three-week break this spring. “I think about that, I guess I’m going to have more fun as I get older, but those days, I don’t regret it.”

      Then the mood changes as Jackson’s eyes fix on a spot near a tiny garage, one that barely looks big enough to fit a car.

      His voice lowers, barely above a whisper, and Jackson tells another story, another way this street, this town, defined him.

      He had raced home from school, even hopped the fence in his excitement to get home quickly. It was his birthday. He heard the arguing before he got in the house. Had heard it before but, still young, didn’t realize the meaning. But then his dad, Lewis III, picked him up and lifted him into the truck, parked in the driveway.

      “I’m leaving,” he told his 10-year-old only child, “and, now, you’re the man of the house.”

      A click; a realization.

      “From that day, I think it gave me my drive just to be better and to do something because then I saw her (Zinda) become a mother and a father,” Jackson said. “Those were the tougher years for her, especially being around here. I now don’t have a father, now the streets are right here, and I was running with the crowd. I’m not even going to call those guys the wrong crowd because they had basketball dreams, but none of us really had father figures. If you had a father, he was in jail or running around.

      “I’d seen enough to really make me know I didn’t want that life.”

      Mean streets

      Lewis Jackson wasn’t perfect after that talk.

      He still had to battle the temptations of the street.

      Drug dealers gathered on a corner he could see from his window. Some from St. Louis moved into a house on the street to stake their claim to new territory. Two people Jackson grew up with are in jail now for selling drugs.

      Violence was part of life. He not only frequently heard gunfire, he’d been in its sights. As a toddler, he slipped out of the house without anyone noticing to ride on his Big Wheel and soon was in the midst of gunfire. When he was older, he was sleeping on the floor in the house on Johns Street – it’s the safest place to be, he says, and still does it now out of habit – when bullets rifled through it. When he was 11, he saw his first shooting – a drive-by – when he was walking back from playing basketball at the court over the hill. His uncle’s house next door was raided by police.

      But Jackson wasn’t scared by the environment. Instead, he said he was “intrigued by everything.”

      Without getting specific, Jackson said he rebelled when he was in seventh grade and got into some trouble.

      But Zinda did everything she could to keep him from it.

      She had him in private school.

      She had him play soccer, football, baseball and basketball, anything to stay busy after school.

      She moved them out of the neighborhood after Lewis’ seventh-grade year, a choice that had him crying because he was leaving all his friends.

      Ultimately, Lewis Jackson knew it was right.

      He knew the neighborhood was dangerous, saw it “getting crazier the older we got.”

      He started to embrace the group of family and friends who surrounded him.

      He didn’t want to let down his mom, who had him when she was 19, and the other women who helped raise him: grandmother Lessie Chargois and aunts Sonja Chargois and Tanja Chargois. He appreciated the support and guidance of guys he refers to as brothers – Dawson, Works and Cody and Antonio Carr – and mentor Felipe Phillips.

      “We tried to build a circle around him where we didn’t allow certain people in because a kid don’t come out of this town, going to a major school like Purdue, like he was able to,” Phillips said.

      “He’s one of the chosen few,” Antonio Carr said.

      So Jackson started changing.

      He shifted focus to basketball and school.

      “Everybody here, all them, they know, the first thing they say, ‘You better keep going. You’re doing the right thing,’ ” Jackson said. “Once everybody saw the way my talent was pushing, it become more, ‘You don’t need to do what we’re doing. You just need to play ball. We’ll help you here and there.’

      “Everybody understood I was my own man. If I had to do what I did, I did it. But nine times out of 10, nobody was allowing it. God has blessed me to give me enough people to watch me.”

      ‘Born to ball’

      Jackson slowly walks toward the court, surrounded by trees, at Johns Hill Park.

      This is different, too.

      There isn’t a crack that runs down the left side, one that helped Jackson learn to control his dribble.

      The length has been extended, too, closer to regulation size.

      There are actual nets on the rims, the first time Jackson has seen this. People used to steal the nets, he said.

      And both rims are the correct height, not having one 6 inches shorter like when Jackson, Dawson and Works played there.

      And when the group saunters toward the court, occupied by a one-on-one game with tree branches encroaching enough to alter shots, the memories flood back.

      “This is how I learned how to play,” Jackson said. “We always used to hear people say, ‘Go in the gym. Concrete going to tear your knees up.’ But we couldn’t get in the gym. Our high school coaches didn’t really open it up for younger kids. So this is all we had.”

      Initially, they’d come during the sweltering summer days – nights were reserved for the high schoolers. But it didn’t take long for them to quickly rise in the ranks of the city’s best and, soon, they were the ones playing in front of packed crowds under the lights.

      They’d send out notices on MySpace with the time of games.

      People would pull up park benches and surround the court. Girls would come just to watch. Guys who didn’t play ball would come just to be at the hot spot.

      “If you could play here and actually play, you probably could play anywhere in Decatur during our age level because the best competition was coming from out South where we were from,” Jackson said.

      Everywhere Jackson played, his talent was on display.

      Phillips remembers seeing Jackson play for the first time in a three-on-three game when he was in sixth grade. Phillips liked Jackson’s quickness and skills with the ball but was floored by his leadership ability and how hard he went despite being the smallest and youngest player.

      Sonja Chargois remembers when Jackson was 3, standing on the edge of the sofa and leaping to dunk it on a hoop hanging on the door.

      “We would be like, ‘Boy, you’re going to break your neck.’ But I think it was just always in him,” said Sonja, who considers Lewis more of a brother than nephew because they were in the same house for four years. “I think sometimes you just can’t help what you’re born to do. That was it. He had a love for basketball even before he ever hit the court.

      “I think because of that, those other things that were out there, basketball had his attention from the get-go, so he just never fell into that stuff. You can say he’s lucky, but I just think that he was born to ball and that’s what grabbed him at an early age.”

      Beating the odds

      With that strong support system and a confidence boost by starting as a freshman on varsity, Jackson excelled at Eisenhower High School and landed a scholarship at Purdue.

      In the three years since arriving in West Lafayette, Jackson has been a steadying influence at point guard for the Boilermakers while adding unique elements to the program.

      No one has his quickness, which allows him to get to the basket and defend opposing point guards with an in-your-face ferocity.

      His leadership has been critical, both in what he’s willing to say and by the example he sets in work ethic and toughness.

      But it’s not just his presence on the court that impresses people in Decatur.

      Family and friends gush about Jackson the man.

      He’s matured, is responsible and accountable for his actions. He’s shown he can learn from mistakes. Since being arrested in April 2009 and pleading guilty to charges of illegal alcohol consumption and possession of drug paraphernalia, there have been no more incidents.

      He’s opened up a bit, giving others a glimpse into what his family has always seen: a big heart and a generous approach to life.

      He’s kept a focus on academics, landing on the “Coach’s honor roll” (minimum 3.0 GPA) and is on target to graduate with a degree in organizational leadership and supervision.

      “He already did what nobody does, graduating from college,” Cody Carr said.

      “That’s rare. Normally people, they don’t finish college. They start, but they don’t finish. Besides him playing ball, he’s going to have a degree. … The main goal is to get away from here and set up a better living, ’cause if you settle for less, basically you don’t want nothing out of life. So if he strives for what he wants and pursues it and just continues to do it, he can’t do nothing but be a success story.”

      To many, Jackson already is.

      “Growing up in our neighborhood, a lot of guys his age are either dead or locked up. He has beat the odds,” Sonja Chargois said.
      The part that struck me was that he slept on the floor as a child because it was safer, and that he still does out of habit. Crazy.

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      • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

        New floor after the water damage killed the old one.



        Not sure how I like the two tone wood, have to see it in real life to judge but generally not a fan of them. The P instead of the train'll take some getting used to.

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        • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

          I like it a lot. Would like a train somewhere, but it is very nice. Gene's signature is an excellent touch.

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          • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

            Originally posted by PurduePacer View Post
            I like it a lot. Would like a train somewhere, but it is very nice. Gene's signature is an excellent touch.
            I hated the train don't know why but just didn't like it.

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            • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

              Man, I really hate the new Big Ten logo.
              Come to the Dark Side -- There's cookies!

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              • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                I know it would be confusing as hell, but they really need to switch us to the Big 12, and the current Big 12 to the Big 10.

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                • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                  Originally posted by PurduePacer View Post
                  I know it would be confusing as hell, but they really need to switch us to the Big 12, and the current Big 12 to the Big 10.
                  Meh, screw it. It's far too big a brand name to change. The conference footprint covers 10 states now so it still makes sense...kinda.

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                  • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                    Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                    Meh, screw it. It's far too big a brand name to change. The conference footprint covers 10 states now so it still makes sense...kinda.
                    I guess. I don't think they ever would, but the names are just stupid.

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                    • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                      John Hart had surgery to repair a stress fracture in his right foot, out 3/4 months. Kinda odd they waited this long, not like it's a new injury.

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                      • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                        Originally posted by Heisenberg View Post
                        John Hart had surgery to repair a stress fracture in his right foot, out 3/4 months. Kinda odd they waited this long, not like it's a new injury.
                        He had such a promising beginning of last season... I hope that he can get back to that form, and not lose any of his confidence...
                        Why so SERIOUS

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                        • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                          Confidence won't be an issue with him I don't think. Feel bad for him though.

                          In other news, R. Davis put up 30 in a game in Orlando yesterday. He is playing with Harris there. Also, Kendall may join Jay Simpson at La Lumiere. Mom has reservations, but his dad is on board.

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                          • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                            Originally posted by Really? View Post
                            He had such a promising beginning of last season... I hope that he can get back to that form, and not lose any of his confidence...
                            Yeah I really don't know what happened, through the first couple conference games he was I think the 3rd leading scorer on the team then he hurt his foot and by the time he was healthy enough to come back Smith was draining 3s like his name was Jimmer. Smith cooled off and Hart worked his way back in the rotation and just couldn't do much of anything, I'm going to assume it was just the injury.

                            Either way, we've got a TON of guards. Personally I'm pretty amped to finally see Anthony Johnson, he was a fairly highly rated recruit and Hummel said the kid's a born scorer.

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                            • Re: Purdue University 2010-2011 Basketball Thread

                              I am pumped about AJ too, but sounds like he may still have to D up to get major minutes at this point.

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                                I'm not really concerned about the loss of Hart. To me he and Ryne Smith are the same player. They're both gunners. The only real difference is that Hart is a more frequent shooter and Smith is a better shooter. I'd really hate to ever see them on the floor together.

                                It'll be nice to see if Anthony Johnson can help, but unless he's really good, I don't see him being much of a factor. As far as next year's concerned, there are 2 things (outside of Hummel's health) that will make or break the season. The first is that Lewis Jackson needs to become the 2nd best player on the team. The second is that whoever steps in at the 5 for Johnson needs to at least be an average Big 10 big. Both of those things are good possibilities, but they are also both far from being locks.

                                I'm very interested to see Hale and Lawson play, but from the reading I've done and the youtube highlights I've watched, both seem more like potential Hummel replacements as perimeter 4's than guys who can really play alongside him.
                                "A man with no belly has no appetite for life."

                                - Salman Rushdie

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